As I said, it’s desperate Trumpian tactics. If a country has more symptomatic people it’s going to have higher rates of testing.
I totally understand that, so maybe there’s some more stuff they can do about time off and holding roles open etc I don’t know.Jobs won't necessarily allow that, however.
I do understandI totally understand that, so maybe there’s some more stuff they can do about time off and holding roles open etc I don’t know.
But like, flipping that round it’s like okay people should continue sacrificing life so some people go to work.
I’m not one of these deniers and I’m not intending to be reductive in terms of this terrible pandemic, but my opinion has swayed a bit over a very long 18 months.
My main issue is the laissez-faire approach we're taking. To an extent, want to do things that just affect you and other consenting adults? Knock yourself out. It's when it affects others as well... and it seems mental to me that we haven't at least taken measures to flatten a curve, and maximise the chances of no lockdown. Government advice is still to wear masks, meet outdoors if possible etc... but they won't compel the masks. When it comes to trains, shops etc it's not exactly an infringement on liberties or fun to wear them, and it's a bit of a bummer if you're vulnerable / worried to have others inflicting a, maybe not unsurprising, attitude of not wearing masks. As somebody mentioned, some think it's over, they don't need to worry... and government is heavily responsible for that.I totally understand that, so maybe there’s some more stuff they can do about time off and holding roles open etc I don’t know.
But like, flipping that round it’s like okay people should continue sacrificing life so some people go to work.
I’m not one of these deniers and I’m not intending to be reductive in terms of this terrible pandemic, but my opinion has swayed a bit over a very long 18 months.
Look at the Tory mps in parliament.My main issue is the laissez-faire approach we're taking. To an extent, want to do things that just affect you and other consenting adults? Knock yourself out. It's when it affects others as well... and it seems mental to me that we haven't at least taken measures to flatten a curve, and maximise the chances of no lockdown. Government advice is still to wear masks, meet outdoors if possible etc... but they won't compel the masks. When it comes to trains, shops etc it's not exactly an infringement on liberties or fun to wear them, and it's a bit of a bummer if you're vulnerable / worried to have others inflicting a, maybe not unsurprising, attitude of not wearing masks. As somebody mentioned, some think it's over, they don't need to worry... and government is heavily responsible for that.
Mrs. Wisdom for example, is now going back to her office, via trains and public crowded spaces including heavily socialising teenagers and early 20s, not because she needs to for her job, but because they want to give the impression of normality... and that's stupid.
At least let her make the choice whether she's comfortable in such environments.
They need to drop the rule on making schoolchildren isolate. Their education has suffered enough this year and a half
Isolate under which circumstances? Because at my sons school 3 people have had Covid in his class and the guidance for the rest of the class was to get tested and keep coming back in.
Yeah sounds like different rules then. I’ve not been keeping up with any of it lately if I’m honest so not sure if there’s specific rules to follow or not. Seems like there isn’t.
They recommend a PCR test but allow the lateral flow one. And I’m pretty sure they don’t even check anyway.
France has got more than 2.5 times the number of hospital beds than the UK despite having a pretty similar population.So 7,088 in hospital on Oct 14
France has more as one example doesn’t it?
Have had quite a few lessons already where half the class has joined from home and the other half are in the room, the lessons just don't work.
The NHS are calling for the return of face masks now. Not surprised.
Isolate under which circumstances? Because at my sons school 3 people have had Covid in his class and the guidance for the rest of the class was to get tested and keep coming back in.
I aint wearing a facemask again, I went through 14 months of wearing one every single day at work fuxk tht.
Yes but they wont go mandatory again if yiu haven't realised countrys around the world are finally learning to just deal with it, I. E. Scandinavia aswell as many other countrysProblem is if they are mandatory you won't have a choice mate
Yes but they wont go mandatory again if yiu haven't realised countrys around the world are finally learning to just deal with it, I. E. Scandinavia aswell as many other countrys,
Sweden, denmark and norway all said its time to get back to normal, USA said something similar prior to this delta wave but look set to keep the reopening going, allow ing vaccinated people in from EuropeIl be honest I don't know too much about what other countries are doing so cant really comment
I hope you don't get the same train as Mrs Wisdom then.I aint wearing a facemask again
Haven't the Scandinavian countries only removed restrictions recently having got their numbers for hospitalisations and deaths down to a fraction of what ours currently are?Yes but they wont go mandatory again if yiu haven't realised countrys around the world are finally learning to just deal with it, I. E. Scandinavia aswell as many other countrys,
yesHaven't the Scandinavian countries only removed restrictions recently having got their numbers for hospitalisations and deaths down to a fraction of what ours currently are?
2 week half term as a circuit breaker was suggested at this point last year also. Again it looks like we aren’t going to follow the science and as you say make all the same mistakes again.I caught a bit of Adam Finn from the JCVI on the news this morning just reiterating the point @Deleted member 5849 has made that even if its not mandatory, there should have been a concerted effort to keep them as a recommendation as a minimum......
....We look set to repeat the errors of last winter.....leaving the simple, cheap & easy options to limit the spread way too late....
I mean in everyday life, I will wear it in train, planes and airport ect, but where im not required I wont be wearing one out in the street like some morons do, or in my carI hope you don't get the same train as Mrs Wisdom then.
There numbers are still up, wtf you talking aboutHaven't the Scandinavian countries only removed restrictions recently having got their numbers for hospitalisations and deaths down to a fraction of what ours currently are?
Living with it doesn't mean just letting the numbers continually increase and doing absolutely nothing to mitigate the increase. There seems to be this really odd lockdown or zero mitigations binary choice presented in this country when the reality is the vast majority of countries are keeping basic mitigations in place, vaccine checks and mask wearing, in an attempt to stop numbers rising.
We've got expert after expert talking about how bad its going to get this winter yet we're doing nothing. We've been down this road before and it hasn't ended well.
It's going to be here every winter. People are going to catch it every winter. The answer is to mass vaccinate those more at risk and not to keep robbing people of opportunities to spend time with people they care about.
Case in point the COVID rules made us postpone our wedding by a week, my gran died in the intervening week. Many other examples too.
I don't think anybody's asking you to wear it out in the street, or in your car.I mean in everyday life, I will wear it in train, planes and airport ect, but where im not required I wont be wearing one out in the street like some morons do, or in my car
There won't be though, nothing lasts forever.This is correct you can’t exist with restrictions every year. It’s just not viable
That report that said they'd been too late to everything was literally released, what, a week ago? Be criminal to do the same now.The issue is we are once again sleep walking into another disaster when we don't have to.
No one is saying lockdowns and etc every year but it's quite sensible to look at what needs to be done when the governments firewall at against the virus has failed.
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