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SBT

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,881
Cityandproud87 said:
He's got a point though?
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If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,882
Nick said:
They will spin it on percentages though.

After all if there were 5 and then the next week there were 10 it would be a 100% increase and that's what they would run with as a headline.

Scaremongering bullshit.
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Agreed. I don’t mind reporting of facts but as I’ve said numerous times the media have been a disgrace throughout this. In my view the guardian is the liberal (I know people got offended when I said left leaning !) version of the Mail. Both just spew negativity. Most media happily commented on the recent, bordering on impossible, modelling worst case scenarios talking about 40k hospitalisations per day and 6k-10k deaths per day* (without any proper context) and all use percentages when it suits them ie when cases or negative figures increase. It’s wrong


*both unsurprisingly have been significantly revised downwards. No shit. They probably required the vaccines to not work and the whole country to meet for one giant spreading party
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,883
SBT said:
If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!
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We also have laws that regulate and make car usage safer and we are taking action i.e. sugar taxes on obesity

It's a shit argument
 
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Deleted member 11652

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,884
SBT said:
If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!
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Hi mate Andy Turner would like a coffee
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,885
Boosh said:
Hi mate Andy Turner would like a coffee
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He has to finish the blow job first
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,886
SBT said:
If car accidents, or obese people were overwhelming the NHS, then we’d regulate them more. But they don’t, so we don’t.

Good luck with level 2!
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Have a look at how many hospital admissions are related to Obesity and come back to me.

The NHS would be much quieter if there were no obese people. Therefore, we should ban it to prevent the strain.

You will probably find that Obesity causes many more admissions than COVID.

As I said, ban obese people and the NHS won't be under strain.
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,887
Nick said:
They will spin it on percentages though.

After all if there were 5 and then the next week there were 10 it would be a 100% increase and that's what they would run with as a headline.

Scaremongering bullshit.
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I think that's harsh. Yes, the headline is a bit clickbait but the article is very clear on the facts that the numbers remain relatively low. If we're not careful we all end up looking towards a former goalkeeper for a reliable commentary of the situation.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,888
Nick said:
Maybe we can ban cars and roads to stop people from going to hospital from accidents?
Maybe we can just cull obese people who will often use the NHS a lot more because they are obese?

Is it going to be a case of lockdowns every winter to stop the systems from being overrun?
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Not sure what’s hard here. We budget for the NHS to meet a given capacity. If you want it to handle a higher capacity then you have to fund it.

Personally that’s what I’d do, sod the lockdowns once everyone’s vaccinated as we’ve done what we can. I’ve not seen any suggestion of that from govt though, just keep masks and distancing to kee pressure down. I’d rather pay another £10/mo in tax than have another three month lockdown. But no one seems to be suggesting that.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,889
Nick said:
Have a look at how many hospital admissions are related to Obesity and come back to me.

The NHS would be much quieter if there were no obese people. Therefore, we should ban it to prevent the strain.

You will probably find that Obesity causes many more admissions than COVID.

As I said, ban obese people and the NHS won't be under strain.
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Sugar tax, calorie labelling, school sports, healthy lifestyles units, etc. etc. We spend a ton on reducing obesity.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,890
Also car accidents and obesity are not contagious.
 

We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,891
It's the Mail but........
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,892
shmmeee said:
Sugar tax, calorie labelling, school sports, healthy lifestyles units, etc. etc. We spend a ton on reducing obesity.
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Yet how many hospital admissions are there related to it?

Just ban it, ban obese people and reduce the strain on the NHS.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,893
PVA said:
Also car accidents and obesity are not contagious.
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It's about the strain on the NHS though, cut them out and the NHS will be laughing.

OR we could just keep locking down and putting lives on hold all the time just in case people get COVID every winter.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,894
Nick said:
Have a look at how many hospital admissions are related to Obesity and come back to me.

The NHS would be much quieter if there were no obese people. Therefore, we should ban it to prevent the strain.

You will probably find that Obesity causes many more admissions than COVID.

As I said, ban obese people and the NHS won't be under strain.
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Fucking beautiful British common sense solutions. Don't want a headache? Chop your head off. End of. Fact.
 
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SBAndy

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,895
Nick said:
It's about the strain on the NHS though, cut them out and the NHS will be laughing.

OR we could just keep locking down and putting lives on hold all the time just in case people get COVID every winter.
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Stop being so fucking obtuse.
 
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PVA

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,896
So the magic solution to protect the NHS is to ban 63% of the UK population from receiving medical care?


 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,897
Nick said:
It's about the strain on the NHS though, cut them out and the NHS will be laughing.

OR we could just keep locking down and putting lives on hold all the time just in case people get COVID every winter.
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If you want to propose that and run for office, see how you get on.

We currently manage the stress obesity and cars out on the NHS and part of that is spending billions and restricting freedoms.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,898
Cityandproud87 said:
This Ends on July the 19th. If some people want to lock themselves away forever then so be it! The vaccines work and all the vunerable people are double jabbed....what more can be done?
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Well you'd think so, but everyone said that about June 21st and look. We have a mainly bollockless population lets face it. I let slip i don't wear a mask in supermarkets yesterday and got rounded on as if id raped an animal
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,899
shmmeee said:
If you want to propose that and run for office, see how you get on.

We currently manage the stress obesity and cars out on the NHS and part of that is spending billions and restricting freedoms.
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Not sure what freedoms are restricted for Obesity though.

If it is about preventing strain on the NHS why not introduce fines that people were getting for petty shit during lockdowns to people who refuse to sort their obesity.

It is more about the stress on the NHS argument as to why we need lockdowns. Take the stress down as well by telling people who are obese and can help it to stop being lazy cunts else they get a fine.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,900
Nick said:
Not sure what freedoms are restricted for Obesity though.

If it is about preventing strain on the NHS why not introduce fines that people were getting for petty shit during lockdowns to people who refuse to sort their obesity.

It is more about the stress on the NHS argument as to why we need lockdowns. Take the stress down as well by telling people who are obese and can help it to stop being lazy cunts else they get a fine.
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Ive already said we have sugar tax, max servings (no super size), advertising and labelling laws, also school meal standards. And people campaigning for more.

We have planning laws that restrict fast food opening in certain areas.

As a society we’ve decided that’s enough for now. Just like as a society we’ve decided that we’re OK with temporary lockdown while people get vaccinated. That’s democracy.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jun 23, 2021
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Saddlebrains said:
Well you'd think so, but everyone said that about June 21st and look. We have a mainly bollockless population lets face it. I let slip i don't wear a mask in supermarkets yesterday and got rounded on as if id raped an animal
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/sighs

And to think I'd accepted your apology...
 

chiefdave

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,902
Nick said:
If it is about preventing strain on the NHS why not introduce fines that people were getting for petty shit during lockdowns to people who refuse to sort their obesity.

It is more about the stress on the NHS argument as to why we need lockdowns. Take the stress down as well by telling people who are obese and can help it to stop being lazy cunts else they get a fine.
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How far do you go with that? There's some research that a plant only diet prevents disease and those on that type of diet has better results if they get covid. Do you fine anyone not on a plant based diet?

What would be good is if you could actually get some help from your doctor, or anywhere, to lose weight. I've been trying to lose weight for years and accessing any help when 'eat less, move more' doesn't work makes accessing things like mental health services seem easy.

I had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get to see a dietician, including a 10 weeks course that gave you mind blowing facts like there's more calories in a doughnut than an apple, to be seen for less than 10 minutes and told 'some people are just big'.

In fact the only thing that has worked is lockdown. Down 60 pounds since that started so the answer is obvious. Stay in lockdown forever and there will be less people needing treatment for covid and obesity
 

SBAndy

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,903
chiefdave said:
How far do you go with that? There's some research that a plant only diet prevents disease and those on that type of diet has better results if they get covid. Do you fine anyone not on a plant based diet?

What would be good is if you could actually get some help from your doctor, or anywhere, to lose weight. I've been trying to lose weight for years and accessing any help when 'eat less, move more' doesn't work makes accessing things like mental health services seem easy.

I had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get to see a dietician, including a 10 weeks course that gave you mind blowing facts like there's more calories in a doughnut than an apple, to be seen for less than 10 minutes and told 'some people are just big'.

In fact the only thing that has worked is lockdown. Down 60 pounds since that started so the answer is obvious. Stay in lockdown forever and there will be less people needing treatment for covid and obesity
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Grrrrr lockdown lover


 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,904
Grendel said:
He has to finish the blow job first
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God you are weirdly obsessed with felatio
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,905
robbiekeane said:
God you are weirdly obsessed with felatio
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It’s probably been a few decades for him so he clearly likes to imagine the younger, slimmer blokes instead. Whatever works for him, I guess, but it does get a lot weirder for me now that Boosh is trying to join in as well.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,906
SBT said:
It’s probably been a few decades for him so he clearly likes to imagine the younger, slimmer blokes instead. Whatever works for him, I guess, but it does get a lot weirder for me now that Boosh is trying to join in as well.
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I think they’re both part of the same self help group.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,907
robbiekeane said:
God you are weirdly obsessed with felatio
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,908
Numbers bad all round today. Big jump in the number of people in hospital and on ventilators
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,909
robbiekeane said:
God you are weirdly obsessed with felatio
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Who isn’t
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,910
fernandopartridge said:
Numbers bad all round today. Big jump in the number of people in hospital and on ventilators
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16000 infections
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,911
Nick said:
Not sure what freedoms are restricted for Obesity though.

If it is about preventing strain on the NHS why not introduce fines that people were getting for petty shit during lockdowns to people who refuse to sort their obesity.

It is more about the stress on the NHS argument as to why we need lockdowns. Take the stress down as well by telling people who are obese and can help it to stop being lazy cunts else they get a fine.
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Surely it would be better to an alcohol.
Responsible for more hospital admissions as well as shit load of crime.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,912
Sky Blue Pete said:
Who isn’t
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I don’t know anyone who posts about it so often
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,913
Sky Blue Pete said:
16000 infections
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So fucking avoidable
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,914
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So fucking avoidable
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A mates nephew and his mates all travelled down the London/Wembley (from Leeds) on Friday to enjoy the atmosphere etc, no tickets...all got Covid ! Not sure how


Reckon Scotland took a few thousand cases back up. Apparently been surge testing up in Scotland already which has lead to spike in case numbers up there. Hopefully will settle back down

In better news PHE Covid inpatients went down 50 today after reaching 1300 yesterday.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 23, 2021
  • #47,915
CCFCSteve said:
A mates nephew and his mates all travelled down the London/Wembley (from Leeds) on Friday to enjoy the atmosphere etc, no tickets...all got Covid ! Not sure how


Reckon Scotland took a few thousand cases back up. Apparently been surge testing up in Scotland already which has lead to spike in case numbers up there. Hopefully will settle back down

In better news PHE Covid inpatients went down 50 today after reaching 1300 yesterday.
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Switzerland enjoying full freedoms in a week mostly because they didn't let a new variant in while pursuing a new trade deal.
 
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