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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,741
No idea what you are on about

wink
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,742
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,743
Doctor on the One Show saying hospitals are the same as last winter.

Is that even factually correct? How is he getting away with a clear lie?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,744
Nick said:
Doctor on the One Show saying hospitals are the same as last winter.

Is that even factually correct?
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Yesterday
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,745
Nick said:
Doctor on the One Show saying hospitals are the same as last winter.

Is that even factually correct? How is he getting away with a clear lie?
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,746
Yep, it's a lie.

How can a Dr go on the BBC and lie?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,747
Skybluefaz said:
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So he's miles off then ?

As there were 40,000 hospitalisations at one point in January
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,748
Nick said:
Yep, it's a lie.

How can a Dr go on the BBC and lie?
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He's a doctor , we must believe every word .... as we are constantly told
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,749
Evo1883 said:
He's a doctor , we must believe every word .... as we are constantly told
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Yet he is saying he has been called into work after as it's so busy and hospitals are like they were in the Winter which is why lockdown shouldn't be lifted.

Yet the stats say something different.

 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,750
Evo1883 said:
He's a doctor , we must believe every word .... as we are constantly told
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Who is telling us that? Scrutinise everything if you can. I'm so tired of this shit now though I can barely bring myself to look at the news stories and that.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,751
Skybluefaz said:
Who is telling us that? Scrutinise everything if you can. I'm so tired of this shit now though I can barely bring myself to look at the news stories and that.
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The media don't want lockdown to end.

It has been obvious for months, they have a Dr clearly lying. You have that other bellend on the ITV scaremongering as well.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,752

Clear scare mongering.

The stats say this Dr is chatting shit:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,753
Nick said:

Clear scare mongering.

The stats say this Dr is chatting shit:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
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Winter 2019 ?

That ended in February 2020 .

Covid came about in March 2020 or am I missing something


OK after rewatching he's saying hospitals are as busy in June as they were in winter 2019 .

Fair enough

However the stats are there to see in terms of ICU and admissions .

I think you misunderstood his point nick in all honesty which is easily done based on that interview
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,754
Nick said:
The media don't want lockdown to end.

It has been obvious for months, they have a Dr clearly lying. You have that other bellend on the ITV scaremongering as well.
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I don't watch either of them tbh. I'll take your word for it.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,755
Nick said:
Yep, it's a lie.

How can a Dr go on the BBC and lie?
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Prime Minister does it all the time - you don’t bat an eyelid.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,756
Ian1779 said:
Prime Minister does it all the time - you don’t bat an eyelid.
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Don't I?

Think you mistake me for somebody else. Read through about my views on MPs, regardless of their party.
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,757
Once a presenter challenges a doctors claims, they’re labelled ‘deniers’ by weirdos who want to push lockdowns.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,758
The Americanisms around it are weird.
‘Freedom Day’
July 19th
Fuck off.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,759
Nick said:
Don't I?

Think you mistake me for somebody else. Read through about my views on MPs, regardless of their party.
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But they are generic comments - not specific. No a Dr shouldn’t lie on TV to people, but neither should the PM, or the Health Secretary or anyone else in a position of responsibility.
Are you more outraged this time because of the potential personal impact? Not having a dig but so many people have just ignored the lies, but when it impacts them personally then the outrage arrives.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,760
Sick Boy said:
The Americanisms around it are weird.
‘Freedom Day’
July 19th
Fuck off.
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Well this country becoming more like America is most of the problem
 
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tom88

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,761


I can’t take him seriously after watching this with my kids
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,762
Nick said:
Clear scare mongering.

The stats say this Dr is chatting shit:

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/healthcare
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Was he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?

‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E

Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
www.independent.co.uk
Edit: Its not really a great mystery why people are turning up at A&E, its the only way you can get to see a doctor. I have a few, hopefully minor, ongoing health issues, which were being dealt with by my local surgery pre-covid, but I haven't been able to see a doctor for 18 months.

I tried today to get an appointment as I had to go and collect some paperwork from the surgery (seems they haven't heard of the post office or email) and was told there's still no face to face appointments. You have to ring in the morning to request a phone appointment but its only same day and one issue per call. People on our my local Facebook group have reported being in a phone queue for more than 4 hours only to finally get through and be told there's no more appointments, try again tomorrow.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,763
chiefdave said:
Was he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?

‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E

Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
www.independent.co.uk
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Ambiguous fucking language tbf. 'levels of activity at A and E' I think the line was. Could mean all sorts. Don't look for any key covid information out of a conversation between Dr Ranj and Jermaine Jenas is probably the lesson here.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,764
chiefdave said:
Was he specifically talking about covid hospitalisations?

‘A sustained threat to patient safety’: Hospitals across the country swamped by record numbers in A&E

Exclusive: NHS staff reveal hospitals and ambulance services are being overwhelmed by a numbers of patients
www.independent.co.uk
Edit: Its not really a great mystery why people are turning up at A&E, its the only way you can get to see a doctor. I have a few, hopefully minor, ongoing health issues, which were being dealt with by my local surgery pre-covid, but I haven't been able to see a doctor for 18 months.

I tried today to get an appointment as I had to go and collect some paperwork from the surgery (seems they haven't heard of the post office or email) and was told there's still no face to face appointments. You have to ring in the morning to request a phone appointment but its only same day and one issue per call. People on our my local Facebook group have reported being in a phone queue for more than 4 hours only to finally get through and be told there's no more appointments, try again tomorrow.
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Genuinely if that’s the service you are getting move to a proper doctors. Family had great service from Gp and hospital over the last month or so
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,765
Sky Blue Pete said:
Genuinely if that’s the service you are getting move to a proper doctors. Family had great service from Gp and hospital over the last month or so
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It's pretty common.

I have to ring up at 8, on hold 2 hours last home for a 3 minute phone call.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,766
Government giving out mix messages already over July 19th “freedom day”. They sent Kwasi out on the media rounds this morning with a message of caution, moment Boris gets asked about it he’s positive. Not sure what’s changed in the figures from this morning for the message to change.

On a separate note how long before one of the prominent right wing snowflakes start quoting the freedom speech from Braveheart?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,767
skybluetony176 said:
Government giving out mix messages already over July 19th “freedom day”. They sent Kwasi out on the media rounds this morning with a message of caution, moment Boris gets asked about it he’s positive. Not sure what’s changed in the figures from this morning for the message to change.

On a separate note how long before one of the prominent right wing snowflakes start quoting the freedom speech from Braveheart?
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I think it’s more to dampen expectations from some quarters that COVID will be completely forgotten on that date and that masks/testing will disappear. In practice, I think it means that businesses will be allowed full capacity across the board but some other precautions will linger on.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,768
Nick said:
Yep, it's a lie.

How can a Dr go on the BBC and lie?
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There are people presenting at hospitals with other illnesses, as you might point out, covid isn't the only illness
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,769
fernandopartridge said:
There are people presenting at hospitals with other illnesses, as you might point out, covid isn't the only illness
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Open the doctors surgeries up then.
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,770
Great opportunity to admit you might have made a mistake interpreting what was being said Nick. Or continue windmilling, but it’s late and it’s a big day tomorrow.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 21, 2021
  • #47,771
Nick said:
It's pretty common.

I have to ring up at 8, on hold 2 hours last home for a 3 minute phone call.
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I’m not sure it’s too common

I order my repeat prescription at styvechale pharmacy and collect it from a machine
My daughter has had 2 Gp appointments and blood tests
My wife has had a consultant appointment and follow up Gp on the phone
My sister had a breast cancer diagnosis and has a date early July for her radiotherapy

Maybe it’s mixed but the service I’ve received has been phenomenal
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2021
  • #47,772
Evo1883 said:
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That ‘within 28 days‘ thing is bollocks too...you could get tested for negative the first day of the month,get run over by a bus a few weeks after,then be shown as having corona aftetwards
 
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2021
  • #47,773
baldy said:
That ‘within 28 days‘ thing is bollocks too...you could get tested for negative the first day of the month,get run over by a bus a few weeks after,then be shown as having corona aftetwards
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Yes you could. It’s a statistical proxy and one that obviously has an extremely high correlation with deaths caused by covid. It’s quicker and it’s manageable and it’s not even worth talking about.
 
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fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2021
  • #47,774
Nick said:
Yep, it's a lie.

How can a Dr go on the BBC and lie?
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Perhaps if he came up with a pretty coloured graph we would all believe it.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 22, 2021
  • #47,775
baldy said:
That ‘within 28 days‘ thing is bollocks too...you could get tested for negative the first day of the month,get run over by a bus a few weeks after,then be shown as having corona aftetwards
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You can also die of COVID having never had a test or having one more than 28 days ago.

Seriously mate. If you are still thinking the pandemic is a conspiracy after this it’s probably best to accept media beyond CBeebies isn’t good for you.
 
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