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Evo1883

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,221
People who have had covid have basically similar protection from the virus going forward as the jab a study finds .

 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,222
Does having covid previously offer longer natural protection than say a jab ?
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,223
Evo1883 said:
Does having covid previously offer longer natural protection than say a jab ?
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It has been debated.
Possible conclusion more antibodies.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,224
Evo1883 said:
Does having covid previously offer longer natural protection than say a jab ?
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I'd say yes if you've caught the Delta variant as you'll have produced antibodies and memory cells more specific to that variant. Being infected and recovering is the 'best' protection against future infection. Which is in a way how we could think about the vast majority of those getting infected at the moment.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,225
wingy said:
It has been debated.
Possible conclusion more antibodies.
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Edit :- Sorry misread your question.
Having had it combined with the jab may increase antibodies.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,226
Doesn’t stop you catching it again but does limit it’s impact. Doesn’t mean there isn’t an impact though
 

torchomatic

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,227
Highest infection rate in the world, largest death rate in Europe. We've had 40K+ cases for the last five days in a row and today the highest daily death rate since March.

Is it just me or are the Government totally silent on this? There's no messaging, no press briefings, nothing. Walking around and going in shops I am one of the few people to still wear a mask. The majority think it's over, but it seems to me that is far from true.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,228
torchomatic said:
Highest infection rate in the world, largest death rate in Europe. We've had 40K+ cases for the last five days in a row and today the highest daily death rate since March.

Is it just me or are the Government totally silent on this? There's no messaging, no press briefings, nothing. Walking around and going in shops I am one of the few people to still wear a mask. The majority think it's over, but it seems to me that is far from true.
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People don’t care torch. They’re doing their best and what more can you expect. Imagine if it was keir and his bunch of clowns
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,229
torchomatic said:
Highest infection rate in the world, largest death rate in Europe. We've had 40K+ cases for the last five days in a row and today the highest daily death rate since March.

Is it just me or are the Government totally silent on this? There's no messaging, no press briefings, nothing. Walking around and going in shops I am one of the few people to still wear a mask. The majority think it's over, but it seems to me that is far from true.
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Well it seems we must have it.
 

torchomatic

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,230
Sky Blue Pete said:
People don’t care torch. They’re doing their best and what more can you expect. Imagine if it was keir and his bunch of clowns
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Haha, tremendous whataboutery. He's not. Johnson is. The Tories are killing its own citizens, not Starmer.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,231
torchomatic said:
Haha, tremendous whataboutery. He's not. Johnson is. The Tories are killing its own citizens, not Starmer.
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I suspect you may have missed the satire
 
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torchomatic

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,232
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I suspect you may have missed the satire
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Ah...
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,233
torchomatic said:
Haha, tremendous whataboutery. He's not. Johnson is. The Tories are killing its own citizens, not Starmer.
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Sorry. I just can’t get my head around it. Instead of blaming the government of the day the list increases daily

Teachers
Gp’s
Nhs
Youngsters
The work shy

The picture that nails what our government think of Covid is of the minute silence for the murdered mp. Johnson missed it probably pissed and there’s one mask on the Tory benches. Wtaf
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,234









 
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skybluetony176

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,235
Evo1883 said:
People who have had covid have basically similar protection from the virus going forward as the jab a study finds .

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Doesn’t last as long though does it? Sure I read that immunity from infection is typically gone within 5-6 months.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,236
Cases are irrelevant.

Hospitalisations and numbers in ICU we need to look at. Yes its gone up but its not shit yourself time.

Worst that will happen, masks in public spaces, WFH again. Another lockdown is pointless with 90% of adults jabbed.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,237
Saddlebrains said:
Cases are irrelevant.

Hospitalisations and numbers in ICU we need to look at. Yes its gone up but its not shit yourself time.

Worst that will happen, masks in public spaces, WFH again. Another lockdown is pointless with 90% of adults jabbed.
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Yeah but it does seem if it’s not affecting you personally then it’s all ok to do what you like
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,238
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yeah but it does seem if it’s not affecting you personally then it’s all ok to do what you like
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I think lifes returned to normality the last few months and everyones enjoyed it immensely.

Imagine they turn round now and say 'oh no fans allowed at football games, pubs and restaraunts close, work from home and dont see anyone'.

With 90% of adults vaccinated it will be met with a rousing get fucked i feel
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,239
I don't know why but I didn't realise that the sixth month gap to the booster was from the second jab.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,240
Blaming punters again for the slow rollout uptake of the boosters
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,241
skybluetony176 said:
Doesn’t last as long though does it? Sure I read that immunity from infection is typically gone within 5-6 months.
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Is that the jab though ? Surely you'd have some immunity from let's say 1 strain of the virus for much longer with natural immunity ?

I could be wrong

Different strain then yes makes sense to have less or no immunity .
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,242
I'm guessing natural immunity plus the vaccine would essentially turn you into FORT KNOX .

I'm guessing that's what's happened with me , I had covid and didn't know about it then had the vaccine at a later date
 

robbiekeane

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,243
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yeah but it does seem if it’s not affecting you personally then it’s all ok to do what you like
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At the end of the day Pete, and this isn’t a popular opinion, but it’s been over 18 months now. 18 months of people’s lives significant changed, I’ve had two jabs in my arm of a pretty new vaccine (and I’ll happily have a third and a fourth), and worn a mask in public space, and not been able to see certain family members and friends for that whole time period.

I’m 30 years old. I feel like I’ve done my fair share and led a very different life for 5% of my living life. At a point you just get fatigued with it all and think I can’t believe there are still some fuckers who haven’t even been vaccinated.

The chances are I’ll be okay if I get infected. I want to get on with life now. If there are still vulnerable people then it sounds harsh but it’s on them to stay home or whatever if they don’t feel comfortable
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,244
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yeah but it does seem if it’s not affecting you personally then it’s all ok to do what you like
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Well not really I’ve had 2 jabs and wil have any booster bunged at me. That’s my passport to do what I want in my view. Start restrictions again and to me the vaccines aren’t working so I wouldn’t waste the trip next time
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,245
robbiekeane said:
If there are still vulnerable people then it sounds harsh but it’s on them to stay home or whatever if they don’t feel comfortable
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Jobs won't necessarily allow that, however.
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,246
covmark said:
Haha. It's not difficult to understand. He posted the information himself. Said it clear as day, patients in ICU, 1052.
In his world they every patient that gets hospitalised, gets put straight into intensive care.

Sent from my SM-G780F using Tapatalk
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In anatomy he doesn’t know his arse from his elbow

Well in his case his foot and his knee
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,247
torchomatic said:
Highest infection rate in the world, largest death rate in Europe. We've had 40K+ cases for the last five days in a row and today the highest daily death rate since March.

Is it just me or are the Government totally silent on this? There's no messaging, no press briefings, nothing. Walking around and going in shops I am one of the few people to still wear a mask. The majority think it's over, but it seems to me that is far from true.
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It's shocking and the media's lack of attention in this is lamentable
 
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torchomatic

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,248
Saddlebrains said:
I think lifes returned to normality the last few months and everyones enjoyed it immensely.

Imagine they turn round now and say 'oh no fans allowed at football games, pubs and restaraunts close, work from home and dont see anyone'.

With 90% of adults vaccinated it will be met with a rousing get fucked i feel
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Which is why they should have had mandatory mask wearing in shops and on public transport. To open up and forget all precautions was insane.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,249
Kieranp96 said:
No country in the world test as heavily as us (as far as im aware)
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Desperate Trumpian stuff.
There were just under 1 million tests in Italy on Monday to download a green pass for work purposes alone. That’s not including those getting tested due to symptoms.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,250
torchomatic said:
Which is why they should have had mandatory mask wearing in shops and on public transport. To open up and forget all precautions was insane.
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Worked well in Scotland
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,251
Sick Boy said:
Desperate Trumpian stuff.
There were just under 1 million tests in Italy on Monday to download a green pass for work purposes alone. That’s not including those getting tested due to symptoms.
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well

Testing rate for COVID-19 most impacted countries worldwide 2022 | Statista

As of December 22, 2022, Austria had performed the most COVID-19 tests per one million population among the countries most severely impacted by the pandemic.
www.statista.com
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,252
Sick Boy said:
Desperate Trumpian stuff.
There were just under 1 million tests in Italy on Monday to download a green pass for work purposes alone. That’s not including those getting tested due to symptoms.
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Surely it’s cause and effect also. Why is the UK testing more than any other country? I’m sure it’s not linked to the fact that we have more people with Covid symptoms and then as a consequence coming into contact with people before displaying symptoms meaning those people also have to be tested.

One of my eldest daughters closest friends had a positive test a few weeks ago and as a consequence her whole friend group of about 8 kids had a PCR test, I presume the same for anyone the girl who had it has classes with. A high number of cases surely lead to a high number of further testing.

Also, what’s the counting method these days. In the early days wasn’t the government double counting certain tests to make it look like the testing numbers were going up when in fact they wasn’t?
 

Ian1779

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,253
wingy said:
Blaming punters again for the slow rollout uptake of the boosters
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They’re also blaming parents and kids for slow uptake in schools, when reality the only hold up is the people that will be administering the vaccine haven’t gotten everything organised yet. Most schools won’t have anyone in to do them until mid Nov at earliest.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,254
Grendel said:
Worked well in Scotland
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How do you know it hasn’t? All the research on wearing masks suggests that figures would be higher if not wearing masks. Unless you’re suggesting that Scotland is the only country in the world where masks don’t work the science suggests that Scotlands numbers would be higher if they didn’t have mandatory mask wearing in certain settings.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 19, 2021
  • #52,255
Grendel said:
well

Testing rate for COVID-19 most impacted countries worldwide 2022 | Statista

As of December 22, 2022, Austria had performed the most COVID-19 tests per one million population among the countries most severely impacted by the pandemic.
www.statista.com
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As I said, it’s desperate Trumpian tactics. If a country has more symptomatic people it’s going to have higher rates of testing.
 
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