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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,836
Bello said:
There you go again with your Brown Shirt talk. Like fucking sheep. Dangerous. Are you too thick to consider other opinions for yourself? smfh
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what facts? you are disputing hundreds of years of vaccine research on the basic premise of how the work going all the way back to edward jenner so surely you can enlighten us with the "facts" on how they really work
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,837
David O'Day said:
i am liking his arguing that the basic premise on how vaccines work is a big pharma lie angle

he is either a wum or a weirdo
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That doesn’t need to be mutually exclusive. He’s both.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,838
Bello said:
Woooosh!
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not got an answer to this then you thick easily led "sheeple" weirdo
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,839
Bello said:
it means that the CDC are manipulating the numbers to fit the narrative. Don't you see it?
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no because that is how vaccines work

you utter lego eating weirdo
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,840
Deleted member 5849 said:
I might regret this but...

Doesn't that actually prove that the vaccine does, indeed, take some time to take full effect after administration?!?
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yes that's basic vaccine science
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,841
Bello said:
it means that the CDC are manipulating the numbers to fit the narrative. Don't you see it?
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No I don't. What I see is the (unsurprising) fact that until a vaccine reaches full strength, people are more vulnerable.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,842
Bello said:
There you go again with your Brown Shirt talk. Like fucking sheep. Dangerous. Are you too thick to consider other opinions for yourself? smfh
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What’s “thick” is having such low information literacy you’re ignoring thousands of professionals working on something and picking out the odd nutter in unrelated fields who disagrees and making you think this makes you smart.

What you’re claiming is that you know more about how to assess evidence than people who are the best trained and most experienced in this field.

The wisest man realises there is much he does not know.

I bet you’d represent yourself in court as well.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,843
Deleted member 5849 said:
No I don't. What I see is the (unsurprising) fact that until a vaccine reaches full strength, people are more vulnerable.
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Laurence Fox said different so. There you go.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,844
Bello said:
Serious question SBT, DOD, NW:

What did you think when companies started offering free stuff if you got vaccinated?
They'd never done it before, certainly not on a scale like that!
Free flights from Quantas! Fuckin hell!
Did it not make you think something wasn't right?
Because for me, when THAT happened I knew I had to check things out for myself.
Didn't it make you think?
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It made me think people are as pig shit thick and ignorant as you.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,845
Bello said:
Serious question SBT, DOD, NW:

What did you think when companies started offering free stuff if you got vaccinated?
They'd never done it before, certainly not on a scale like that!
Free flights from Quantas! Fuckin hell!
Did it not make you think something wasn't right?
Because for me, when THAT happened I knew I had to check things out for myself.
Didn't it make you think?
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It made me think we’re in a pandemic that’s buggering the economy across the world at a time where our biggest issue stopping is getting back to normal is lack of vaccine uptake and all the data shows it’s hesitancy or lack of being arsed and not anti-vax sentiment that’s stopping it.

Why don’t you tell us your great conspiracy story? Who is doing what and why? How are they keeping tens of thousands of employees and independent scientists quiet?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,846
Bello said:
You're fuckin hilarious mate.
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I know but that’s not what we’re talking about now.

Come on, give us the story. Let’s hear it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,847
Bello said:
What did you think when companies started offering free stuff if you got vaccinated?
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That I wished they'd offered me some?
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,848
Bello said:
Did it not make you think something wasn't right?
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Companies generally do things in their own benefit so it makes me think they've identified that the best thing for their company is to get back to normal as quickly as possible and the best way to achieve that is through high vaccination rates.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,849
Bello said:
Serious question SBT, DOD, NW:

What did you think when companies started offering free stuff if you got vaccinated?
They'd never done it before, certainly not on a scale like that!
Free flights from Quantas! Fuckin hell!
Did it not make you think something wasn't right?
Because for me, when THAT happened I knew I had to check things out for myself.
Didn't it make you think?
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AZ is a non profit vaccine isn’t it?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,850
Bello said:
You are either badly informed or ridiculously stupid
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Cool mate, would you like to show us the studies that show vaccinated people aren't less likely to pass on the virus?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,851
Bello said:
Conspiracy story? No idea. I think Shmee mentioned something about that, ask him.
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,852
Bello said:
Serious question SBT, DOD, NW:

What did you think when companies started offering free stuff if you got vaccinated?
They'd never done it before, certainly not on a scale like that!
Free flights from Quantas! Fuckin hell!
Did it not make you think something wasn't right?
Because for me, when THAT happened I knew I had to check things out for myself.
Didn't it make you think?
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No because as said a world with reduced levels of covid are better environments for these companies to trade
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,853
Bello said:
Okay. Just wondering, that's all.
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Do you ever get past the thinking and wondering stage and have a thought or an insight? Or is it perpetual mystification?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,854
I'm waiting for the disproving evidence from bellow to show that the basic science behind how a vaccine works and builds up protection is in fact wrong.

He could get a nobel for that alone
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,855
Bello said:
Okay, good one!
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No "evidence" to disprove this?

Ok weirdo
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,856
Bello said:
Right now it is, yes.
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So there’s little to support a conspiracy in that case they want to bung vaccines into people for financial gain.
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,857
This is reminding me of when my daughter tries to give me a legit reason for not eating her carrots "It's too orangey".
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,858
Deleted member 5849 said:
Even if we ran with that, financial gain wouldn't involve killing people off, so at worst a vaccine would be a placebo, and no threat to people.
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I do think Pzizer in trying to push the 4 week rule is an example of profit as is jabbing under 16’s but there’s no question it isn’t effective and without vaccines wed be in real trouble
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,859
Bello said:
But I wouldn't say there's "no question" just yet, would you?
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Hell of a coincidence that deaths dropped with vaccine uptake then.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,860
Bello said:
But I wouldn't say there's "no question" just yet, would you?
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So how do you explain the relatively low death numbers compared to cases, if it isn’t the vaccine having an impact? Why were we seeing up to 1000 daily deaths in European countries?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,861
Grendel said:
I do think Pzizer in trying to push the 4 week rule is an example of profit as is jabbing under 16’s but there’s no question it isn’t effective and without vaccines wed be in real trouble
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The short gap between Pfizer was as much what they'd tested for, so it was a massive gamble to move further out and become a live trial, really. As it happens, that was proved right and a longer gap between jabs was fine, but I fully understand why they said it wasn't, with zero evidence to say otherwise!
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,862
Bello said:
You need to go back and read the other posts Shmee:
CDC anounces you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

This means that the 'count' is being manipulated.
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Your logic is incredibly backwards, and it's coming from a fixed pre-disposition of scepticism.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,863
Bello said:
You need to go back and read the other posts Shmee:
CDC anounces you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

This means that the 'count' is being manipulated.
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Funnily enough you’ve misunderstood my point. The death rate dropped by age group in like with vaccination roll out. In fact your point about 14 days for vaccines to be fully effective is right and why we know it’s saving lives.

As for number fixing, you know we have basic statistical methods to detect this quite reliably right? It’s how we know Russia’s numbers are bullshit for example. Or are the statisticians in on it as well?

How deep does this go Bella? My GF was part of an antibody study, should I be wary?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,864
Deleted member 5849 said:
Your logic is incredibly backwards, and it's coming from a fixed pre-disposition of scepticism.
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This isn’t scepticism. It’s mistrust of authority. Probably started in school.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,865
Bello said:
So, NONE of you have any questions regarding the safety of the vaccines then? Everything's hunky dory?
Okay.

Enjoy the game tonight.
PUSB
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This should be good. Tell us then why you shouldn’t have the vaccine for safety reasons.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,866
Bello said:
But I wouldn't say there's "no question" just yet, would you?
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Clearly yes as the stats prove they work
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,867
Bello said:
I posted the other day a quote from a now famously discredited Professor who said "As we prevent three deaths by vaccinating, we incur two deaths. Maybe he was right. Not saying he is, but it's food for thought.
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Theres no maybe about it. He’s unequivocally wrong.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,868
Bello said:
So, NONE of you have any questions regarding the safety of the vaccines then? Everything's hunky dory?
Okay.
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There's been plenty of questioning of the various vaccines and vaccination programs on this thread but most people look at the evidence, listen to the experts and see that the benefit, both to themselves as an individual and the wider population, far outweighs the risk.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,869
Bello said:
So, NONE of you have any questions regarding the safety of the vaccines then? Everything's hunky dory?
Okay.

Enjoy the game tonight.
PUSB
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Had 2 doses kid, i'm fine
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 24, 2021
  • #51,870
Bello said:
You need to go back and read the other posts Shmee:
CDC anounces you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

This means that the 'count' is being manipulated.
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No it just counts as the vaccine takes around 14 days to build up your bodies defense levels.

Are you going to prove to use that basic vaccine dating back to Edward Jenner is wrong? Where is the studies that show that? you like to talk about facts?
 
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