Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (32 Viewers)

[NorthernWisdom]

Proof of Covid Vaccination needed for NEC
It is NEC policy for anyone attending an event, unless they are exempt, to show proof of covid vaccination before entry.

The card you received when you were vaccinated will be accepted as proof.

 

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[Nick]

How many people still have those cards?

How easy are they to fake? (very)

 

[NorthernWisdom]

How many people still have those cards?

How easy are they to fake? (very)

More effort than going for a vaccine, mind you!

 

[chiefdave]

Yet how many people go to one football match at Elland Road every other week?

Its a mess. The government guidelines for events are that vaccine passports should be checked as a requirement of entry and that masks should be worn but as they've removed any legal requirement it's now down to individual events & venues. So its not being applied by everyone as we know.

Try and go to either of the arenas in Brum, Academy, Institute etc and you'll be checked and refused entry without your vaccine passport. But turn up to the match tonight and no checks at all.

There was talk a few days ago that the Premier League would make vaccine passports a requirement for all games but that seems to have gone quiet. Expect if they did bring that in it wouldn't be long before the same came in for us.

We expect and recommend that members of the public continue to wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces where you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet.

The Government is urging nightclubs and other venues with large crowds to make use of the NHS COVID Pass, which shows proof of vaccination, a recent negative test or natural immunity as a means of entry.

 

[chiefdave]

How many people still have those cards?

How easy are they to fake? (very)

This is a common complaint from music promoters. With no mandated system in place its left for each promoter to decide how they enforce the guidance. You can't insist on people using a secure vaccine passport app for example when the government don't make that a legal requirement.

Think it would take a special type of idiot to fake a vaccine passport / test result to get into an event and put others help at risk but as we saw with festivals over the summer it was commonplace.

 

[David O'Day]

I just saw this. He isn't a chemist, he's a biophysicist. Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, et al. you know, the people you listen to? They are are chemists.

He's not a virologist though is he

Mate you're a plum and a dangerous one.

 

[shmmeee]

I just saw this. He isn't a chemist, he's a biophysicist. Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, et al. you know, the people you listen to? They are are chemists.

Is he working on COVID virology or not?

Would you listen to a Pfizer sales person because they work for Pfizer?

 

[shmmeee]

Peer reviewed by who? Certainly not by the free thinkers. They've all been discredited, remember.

For someone who doesn’t believe in the scientific process, you sure do spend a lot of time using the fruits of it.

Also: I’m calling troll here purely on the use of “free thinkers”

 

[shmmeee]

Boo fucking hoo you're calling troll. Can't have an opinion that goes against your sychophantic bleating?

If you’re serious then wow, just wow. “Free thinkers” what even is a free thinker?

 

[shmmeee]

There you go! See, you're making progress already.

Do you believe in fairies?

I’ve got a mate who’s taken a little too much acid and doesn’t believe in science either. She believes in fairies.

 

[shmmeee]

Erm, okay.

What’s wrong? Is she too free thinking for you?

 

[David O'Day]

No, he's not a virologist, you idiot. But he's now the closest thing we had to Professor Luc Montagnier. Have you heard of him? He was (yet another) discredited and defamed physicist. His crime was daring to talk about ADE on live TV. You know ADE don't you, you plum? That's when the body fails to use its natural immune system to halt a virus because another immune system has taken over.

But he has lost his credibility among the flock (that's you by the way). Just imagine his "peers" no longer hold him in esteem because he goes against narrative the pharmas are pushing. In this climate, anything peer reviewed is questionable.

You're the fucking dangerous one.

So many words and yet none of them are anything to do with why people don't take the word of someone who is not a specialist and was easily laughed at because his basic maths when talking about Sweden was wrong.

I'm take the word of the vast majority of virology experts over you and you frankly weird ideas that something being peer reviewed is "questionable"

Stop looking at videos on youtube mate, it's fucking you up.

 

[shmmeee]

Ha ha. You're "funny"

It’s a serious question. Why is my mate not a free thinker but Right Said Fred and Matt le Tissier are?

 

[clint van damme]

If you’re serious then wow, just wow. “Free thinkers” what even is a free thinker?

I'm a free thinker, the moon is made of cheese, prove me wrong sheeple!

 

[David O'Day]

People DO take the word of..... Just IMO other people (meaning you) are too gullible/lazy/sycophantic or just blind stupid to question anything that's said.
Maybe you are taking the word of virologists. So am I. The virologists that I listen to have been discredited (after leading their respective fields for decades) What we have left are the virologists who go with the same narrative as you do. That's all. And that's dangerous unless checked.

so you admit that they have been discredited which means proved wrong? Unless checked? It was the checking of what they said that leads to them being discredited, well that and things they said would happen proved to be wrong by not happening.

Do you even know what you are typing as you are making my case for me?

 

[David O'Day]

Are you happy with this?

The CDC say you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

How very convenient.

That is basic science though. The antibodies take time to fully develop in your system. There's decades of study on this.

 

[David O'Day]

I'm not even sure you know what a vaccine actually is or does? It doesn't inject a "cure" in to the body. It injects a substance that teaches your body that something is a threat and allows it to build up it's own defences against that threat.

This is why you are not fully protected until x amount of days later.

This is basic science and is really not up for debate

 

[Skybluefaz]

Are you happy with this?

The CDC say you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

How very convenient.

The fuck you on about?

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

I'm a free thinker, the moon is made of cheese, prove me wrong sheeple!

Yeah....they even faked the moon landings to try & crush this fact......but fuck man.....who you gonna believe? ....a global collective of astrophysicists & aerospace engineers or wallace & grommit.....

 

[David O'Day]

Immediately, your first sentence is bullshit, and I think you know this. The rest is rhetoric related to the first sentence.

No it's not mate, I think you know you talking some utter shite but you've gone too far down the rabbit hole to admit this

 

[David O'Day]

As straight forward as that hey? Nothing else you want to add? (ahem) cycle threshold?

Cycle thresholds low or high have absolutely no baring on how vaccines work at their basic level They still take time to teach the body how to react to the threat it is protecting against.

 

[COV]

If you’re serious then wow, just wow. “Free thinkers” what even is a free thinker?

Someone who’s got a much bigger chance of dying from covid

 

[COV]

Immediately, your first sentence is bullshit, and I think you know this. The rest is rhetoric related to the first sentence.

You are a very good demonstration as to why people want vaccination passports

 

[David O'Day]

Just looking out for my family and protecting them from people who

If YOU say so. You believe what you want. But as long as other people are aware of the other angle to this, and not simply following on blindly. I don't really have much else to enlighten YOU.

if i say so? it's how vaccines work. there is no other angle on this

 

[David O'Day]

If I may say so, with a statement like that, you are a very good representation of someone who has zero idea of the Covid facts.

you have no "facts" just a load of incorrect derping

 

[David O'Day]

Someone who’s got a much bigger chance of dying from covid

also a much bigger chance of giving it to others

 

[skybluetony176]

If you’re serious then wow, just wow. “Free thinkers” what even is a free thinker?

He’s more free from thinking than free thinking.

 

[David O'Day]

He’s more free from thinking than free thinking.

i am liking his arguing that the basic premise on how vaccines work is a big pharma lie angle

he is either a wum or a weirdo

 

[David O'Day]

Just relaying facts

what facts weirdo?

 

[skybluetony176]

Are you happy with this?

The CDC say you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

How very convenient.

Two thirds of people who die in car crashes are wearing a seatbelt. That doesn’t mean seatbelts don’t work. Seatbelts are worn by over 90% of people in vehicles. Less than 10% account for a third of RTA deaths.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Are you happy with this?

The CDC say you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window.

How very convenient.

I might regret this but...

Doesn't that actually prove that the vaccine does, indeed, take some time to take full effect after administration?!?

 

[David O'Day]

There you go again with your Brown Shirt talk. Like fucking sheep. Dangerous. Are you too thick to consider other opinions for yourself? smfh

what facts? you are disputing hundreds of years of vaccine research on the basic premise of how the work going all the way back to edward jenner so surely you can enlighten us with the "facts" on how they really work

 

[skybluetony176]

i am liking his arguing that the basic premise on how vaccines work is a big pharma lie angle

he is either a wum or a weirdo

That doesn’t need to be mutually exclusive. He’s both.

 

[David O'Day]

Woooosh!

not got an answer to this then you thick easily led "sheeple" weirdo

 

[David O'Day]

it means that the CDC are manipulating the numbers to fit the narrative. Don't you see it?

no because that is how vaccines work

you utter lego eating weirdo