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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,056
Grendel said:
Are you being serious?

It shows Johnson has acknowledged Cummings and his nonsense is well in the past

Will be well received by the majority in the country and boost the government poll ratings - him vs that oily weirdo shadow health bloke? No contest
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Well yes he left because of Cummings’ interference so presumably he has had assurances he will have a freer hand.

One question for you G, how do you think it will go down with the half of the Tory membership that has a problem with brown leaders?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,057
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well yes he left because of Cummings’ interference so presumably he has had assurances he will have a freer hand.

One question for you G, how do you think it will go down with the half of the Tory membership that has a problem with brown leaders?
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Who cares Tory members would fill a phone booth
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,058
baldy said:
Fuck off with the conspiracy theory absolute bullshit - I‘m not & never have been you moron - pathetic,just because I don’t want to live in fear like you
Lazy response
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You haven't got a clue. The NHS was overwhelmed:

It had to create thousands of extra ICU beds
It had to redraft other clinical specialities to look after critically ill patients,
It had consultants doing nursing shifts
It's now got a significant backlog of people waiting for treatment
Thousands of people with undiagnosed cancer

Comparing today with a catastrophic situation doesn't mean today is any good.

I tend to agree that it is time to go back to normal but it's only a few weeks to get second jabs to a chunk of the population. It's not as if the current restrictions are any thing that can't be lived with for a bit longer, let's be honest.

I take it that you, like saddlebags has had both of your jabs
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,059
fernandopartridge said:
You haven't got a clue. The NHS was overwhelmed:

It had to create thousands of extra ICU beds
It had to redraft other clinical specialities to look after critically ill patients,
It had consultants doing nursing shifts
It's now got a significant backlog of people waiting for treatment
Thousands of people with undiagnosed cancer

Comparing today with a catastrophic situation doesn't mean today is any good.

I tend to agree that it is time to go back to normal but it's only a few weeks to get second jabs to a chunk of the population. It's not as if the current restrictions are any thing that can't be lived with for a bit longer, let's be honest.

I take it that you, like saddlebags has had both of your jabs
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Doubt it, the jabs are only for people over 18
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,060
fernandopartridge said:
You haven't got a clue. The NHS was overwhelmed:

It had to create thousands of extra ICU beds
It had to redraft other clinical specialities to look after critically ill patients,
It had consultants doing nursing shifts
It's now got a significant backlog of people waiting for treatment
Thousands of people with undiagnosed cancer

Comparing today with a catastrophic situation doesn't mean today is any good.

I tend to agree that it is time to go back to normal but it's only a few weeks to get second jabs to a chunk of the population. It's not as if the current restrictions are any thing that can't be lived with for a bit longer, let's be honest.

I take it that you, like saddlebags has had both of your jabs
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Can I mention the ‘W’ word at this point?
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,061
Grendel said:
Are you being serious?

It shows Johnson has acknowledged Cummings and his nonsense is well in the past

Will be well received by the majority in the country and boost the government poll ratings - him vs that oily weirdo shadow health bloke? No contest
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Poor leadership to let him become so influential and defend his Barnard Castle breach.
 

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,062
fernandopartridge said:
You haven't got a clue. The NHS was overwhelmed:

It had to create thousands of extra ICU beds
It had to redraft other clinical specialities to look after critically ill patients,
It had consultants doing nursing shifts
It's now got a significant backlog of people waiting for treatment
Thousands of people with undiagnosed cancer

Comparing today with a catastrophic situation doesn't mean today is any good.

I tend to agree that it is time to go back to normal but it's only a few weeks to get second jabs to a chunk of the population. It's not as if the current restrictions are any thing that can't be lived with for a bit longer, let's be honest.

I take it that you, like saddlebags has had both of your jabs
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Saddlebrains. Hope this helps FernandoAlonso
 
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robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 26, 2021
  • #48,063
baldy said:
Fuck off with the conspiracy theory absolute bullshit - I‘m not & never have been you moron - pathetic,just because I don’t want to live in fear like you
Lazy response
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“The NHS wasn’t overwhelmed at all” came from you earlier. At best you’re a fucking idiot.
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,064
"Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated | Coronavirus | The Guardian" Why most people who now die with Covid in England have been vaccinated | Coronavirus | The Guardian
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,065
fernandopartridge said:
You haven't got a clue. The NHS was overwhelmed:

It had to create thousands of extra ICU beds
It had to redraft other clinical specialities to look after critically ill patients,
It had consultants doing nursing shifts
It's now got a significant backlog of people waiting for treatment
Thousands of people with undiagnosed cancer

Comparing today with a catastrophic situation doesn't mean today is any good.

I tend to agree that it is time to go back to normal but it's only a few weeks to get second jabs to a chunk of the population. It's not as if the current restrictions are any thing that can't be lived with for a bit longer, let's be honest.

I take it that you, like saddlebags has had both of your jabs
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Yep I have…I work in a hospital so had both of mine months ago
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,066
baldy said:
Yep I have…I work in a hospital so had both of mine months ago
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What do you do baldy?
 

Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,067
Sky Blue Pete said:
What do you do baldy?
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Hair transplant ward
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,068
Johnnythespider said:
Hair transplant ward
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I genuinely laughed out loud then….who wouldn’t?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,069
baldy said:
I genuinely laughed out loud then….who wouldn’t?
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And what do you do baldy?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,070
baldy said:
Who wouldn’t and?
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Sorry what do you do at the hospital?
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 27, 2021
  • #48,071
Sky Blue Pete said:
And what do you do baldy?
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Hair transplant ward…are you blind?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,072
baldy said:
Hair transplant ward…are you blind?
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Ok you’re not going to say. No problem
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,073
Cases running rife in school at the moment, lots of half and half teaching as a treat. Just close them FFS
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,074
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Cases running rife in school at the moment, lots of half and half teaching as a treat. Just close them FFS
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Was saying this to my wife yesterday, I guess A. The government wouldn't entertain it. B. Childcare would be a nightmare for some.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,075
Skybluefaz said:
Was saying this to my wife yesterday, I guess A. The government wouldn't entertain it. B. Childcare would be a nightmare for some.
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Surely catching COVID off your child is a concern?
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,076
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Surely catching COVID off your child is a concern?
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Personally, not really although I appreciate it will be for some. Cos someone tested positive in my sons year on Friday he's already missed out on his final football tournament of the season, he'll miss out on swimming with school every day this week which was already rearranged. He's back to online learning which means I've got to manage that and my own work this week. Plus he'll miss two further football training sessions and shouldn't really leave the house. He's tested negative on a lateral flow yesterday. It feels like there should be a better way to manage it. Maybe some of that 37 billion quid could have stretched to a more effective way to manage Covid-19 in schools rather than sending everyone home.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,077
Skybluefaz said:
Personally, not really although I appreciate it will be for some. Cos someone tested positive in my sons year on Friday he's already missed out on his final football tournament of the season, he'll miss out on swimming with school every day this week which was already rearranged. He's back to online learning which means I've got to manage that and my own work this week. Plus he'll miss two further football training sessions and shouldn't really leave the house. He's tested negative on a lateral flow yesterday. It feels like there should be a better way to manage it. Maybe some of that 37 billion quid could have stretched to a more effective way to manage Covid-19 in schools rather than sending everyone home.
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Well being honest if we are to ‘live with Covid’ we should be letting schools function as normal and treating someone off with it the same we do as any other illness. What we’re doing right now isn’t really teaching
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,078
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Cases running rife in school at the moment, lots of half and half teaching as a treat. Just close them FFS
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You going to pay my wages when I can't go to work?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,079
Nick said:
You going to pay my wages when I can't go to work?
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The provision is always there in cases where both parents cannot WFH.

Other members of the workforce aren’t your enemy
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,080
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The provision is always there in cases where both parents cannot WFH.

Other members of the workforce aren’t your enemy
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I'm not saying they are.

Just when I am having to take days off to help teach my child I don't have the privilege of somebody doing my job for me.

It's just not as simple as "close all the schools". We need to learn to live with it rather than lock the country down every time.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,081
Nick said:
I'm not saying they are.

Just when I am having to take days off to help teach my child I don't have the privilege of somebody doing my job for me.

It's just not as simple as "close all the schools". We need to learn to live with it rather than lock the country down every time.
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Primary schools can and should stay open, they aren’t the main drivers of infection and the children are less able to handle remote learning.

Teaching remotely is harder and a bigger ball ache so it’s not like I’m suggesting it lightly. My wider point is we should be fully unrestricting schools so none of it is needed and we don’t have half in half out
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,082
Nick said:
You going to pay my wages when I can't go to work?
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This may be a stupid question as I don't have kids but what do you do in the school holidays or when your kids are off school sick?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,083
chiefdave said:
This may be a stupid question as I don't have kids but what do you do in the school holidays or when your kids are off school sick?
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plan I assume as you know it’s happening - reality is we can’t just keep closing schools at unscheduled times
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,084
chiefdave said:
This may be a stupid question as I don't have kids but what do you do in the school holidays or when your kids are off school sick?
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Use holiday or grandparents who also use holiday to spend time with her. Doesn't leave much left for all the other times.

She has had about 3 days off sick in about 7 years of being at school so sickness isn't an issue.

Everything is planned and worked around for holidays.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,085
Nick said:
I'm not saying they are.

Just when I am having to take days off to help teach my child I don't have the privilege of somebody doing my job for me.

It's just not as simple as "close all the schools". We need to learn to live with it rather than lock the country down every time.
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Who pays your wages if you're ill with covid?
It's catch 22
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,086
clint van damme said:
Who pays your wages if you're ill with covid?
It's catch 22
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It isn’t really - it’s the same who pays if you’ve got flu and can’t go in - that’s not an argument - you don’t close businesses if someone in has Covid
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,087
Grendel said:
plan I assume as you know it’s happening - reality is we can’t just keep closing schools at unscheduled times
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Fair play, pretty impressive that you manage to plan when your kids are going to be sick
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,088
chiefdave said:
Fair play, pretty impressive that you manage to plan when your kids are going to be sick
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Thats an emergency scenario though isn’t it - it’s not the case of being sick is it it’s closing schools so every child who is perfectly well can’t go into school which is absurd
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,089
Grendel said:
Thats an emergency scenario though isn’t it - it’s not the case of being sick is it it’s closing schools so every child who is perfectly well can’t go into school which is absurd
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At the moment large numbers who are perfectly well can’t go in because of one case in their year group. What I’m saying is if we are really concerned about that system then scrap it so children do not have to isolate or distance or close them altogether for the last few weeks so infections can fall.

Pretty much every teacher I work with wants to either have full normality or to go remote until the end.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 28, 2021
  • #48,090
Brighton Sky Blue said:
At the moment large numbers who are perfectly well can’t go in because of one case in their year group. What I’m saying is if we are really concerned about that system then scrap it so children do not have to isolate or distance or close them altogether for the last few weeks so infections can fall.

Pretty much every teacher I work with wants to either have full normality or to go remote until the end.
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I agree. It's way over the top.

No point closing now, then we close again in Sept / Oct. Rinse and repeat.
 
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