Match Thread Everton vs Coventry City (A) - Hill Dickinson Stadium - Fri 6th November (8pm KO) (10 Viewers)

[Sky Blue Pete]

If Gboho doesn’t fuck that pass to Awoniyi for 2-0…then it could’ve been 2-0!

And awomni to Gboho

 

[Para1140]

 

[Ashdown]

Went to bed furious, woke up furious. Look we can keep talking about those VAR decisions as ‘mistakes’ but deep down we all know surely that they were not mistakes or errors they were premeditated conscious bias. Those corrupt officials were already primed to give us nothing last night. In a world where humanity glorifies criminality and gangs and fraud through the TV and films and the media it’s hard when it’s 4 blatant decisions to think about anything other than cheating!
These decisions turned the game on its head and I think our players and manager knew after a while it was happening but were powerless to protest it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Went to bed furious, woke up furious. Look we can keep talking about those VAR decisions as ‘mistakes’ but deep down we all know surely that they were not mistakes or errors they were premeditated conscious bias. Those corrupt officials were already primed to give us nothing last night. In a world where humanity glorifies criminality and gangs and fraud through the TV and films and the media it’s hard when it’s 4 blatant decisions to think about anything other than cheating!
These decisions turned the game on its head and I think our players and manager knew after a while it was happening but were powerless to protest it.

Sorry but the idea that it was premeditated is just nonsense; they were just massively incompetent. These kind of officials do seem to lack any kind of accountability though, which needs to change.

 

[TomRad85]

Sorry but the idea that it was premeditated is just nonsense; they were just massively incompetent. These kind of officials do seem to lack any kind of accountability though, which needs to change.

They'd give them more of a look if it was a bigger club, i guarantee that.

 

[Sick Boy]

They'd give them more of a look if it was a bigger club, i guarantee that.

I don’t disagree to be honest but the idea that they’re against us is nonsense.

 

[Ashdown]

A couple of incorrect decisions is dubious, 4 slowed down and obvious ‘mistakes’ is highly suspicious. Like I said last night , friends who are avid supporters of similar sized clubs like ours all told me you’ll be amazed and horrified at some of the VAR and refereeing gaffs that Cov will be on the end of in the PL. Well here we go !!

 

[Gint11]

If the decisions were given, both at 0-0, the game is likely to be different so I agree on VAR however, we still went 0-1 up and then out of no where, imploded. I can’t fathom how we played so solidly for 52 minutes and then became so clumsy and open from then on. We let Everton back in. I hear them saying they went up a gear. They only went up a gear after they equalised and it lifted the crowd. We had them beat and threw it away.

 

[Tommo1993]

Yeah, we should’ve had decisions go our way. But the game was over when we scored. Yes, we look physically spent after 60 mins like we have done all season - how people can’t see that is a bit weird. But to score and drop off totally is shite.

 

[Moff]

Sorry but the idea that it was premeditated is just nonsense; they were just massively incompetent. These kind of officials do seem to lack any kind of accountability though, which needs to change.

The lack of accountability is shocking and needs to change.

Fans spend their hard earned money to follow their clubs to have these clowns fuck it up on a fairly regular basis, for them to get a slap on the wrist, miss a week in the VAR box, and return a week later as if nothings happened, on full pay to fuck it all up again.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

End of the day we’ve played 10 and lost 7. We won’t stay up if we keep losing games at the rate we are. Last night should have been at least a point, you simply can’t afford to be losing this much.

 

[Hybridtheory]

A couple of incorrect decisions is dubious, 4 slowed down and obvious ‘mistakes’ is highly suspicious. Like I said last night , friends who are avid supporters of similar sized clubs like ours all told me you’ll be amazed and horrified at some of the VAR and refereeing gaffs that Cov will be on the end of in the PL. Well here we go !!

Come on man. The only decision that was blatantly wrong was the handball goal

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Undoubtedly we were hard done by VAR, but the way we self destructed after scoring was hideous.

It’s very basic from a young level of football that after scoring you do the basics right and we just didn’t do that.

I was also really annoyed with Frank’s substitutions. Not sure where EMC was, but if he is fit I would rather put him on over BTA. Add to that, waiting until the 86th minute to make four changes when Torp was lagging from 65th minute was really poor.

VAR will get some spotlight but got to look inwards and what we should’ve done better.

 

[Matt smith]

Come on man. The only decision that was blatantly wrong was the handball goal

Are you serious?

 

[AFCCOVENTRY]

Regardless of VAR issues last night

Tatsu was in a great position to do better with his shot on goal.

Rudoni on another night his shot goes in.

Couple of clear breaks and we make the wrong decision on the final ball.

We should have come away with a point.

 

[coop]

Yeah, we should’ve had decisions go our way. But the game was over when we scored. Yes, we look physically spent after 60 mins like we have done all season - how people can’t see that is a bit weird. But to score and drop off totally is shite.

But FL will not change anything until 85 minutes its terrible game management.

 

[PVA]

So annoying that the likes of Redknapp and Hendrie can see the infringements, but the people actually paid to see them can't.

 

[northstander]

The VAR incompetence and inconsistency frustration is amplified because of last night's result, but the same complaints were there for the blatant hair pull ignored in the Sunderland win.

We are already up against it as a newly promoted side, and we are all learning first hand the PL is not a level playing field. Quite telling that the only defence for the VAR decisions being correct last night is coming from Everton fans.

 

[gspotgaz]

We look an all or ‘nothing’ team so far. Look like we’ll get the odd win but not many tight draws. To suddenly implode after going 1-0 up shows there’s something not right psychologically with the group.

Thought Everton were bang average at best and that’s probably being kind…. Yet they’ve still come away with a 3-1 win and seeing out the last 15 comfortably. BTA absolutely horrendous when he came on again just running the ball off the pitch and no intention of passing to anyone. Very very frustrating game.

 

[RJASkyblue]

If the decisions were given, both at 0-0, the game is likely to be different so I agree on VAR however, we still went 0-1 up and then out of no where, imploded. I can’t fathom how we played so solidly for 52 minutes and then became so clumsy and open from then on. We let Everton back in. I hear them saying they went up a gear. They only went up a gear after they equalised and it lifted the crowd. We had them beat and threw it away.

The first goal was an absolute shambles. We had so many chances to clear it. I think that Yirenki should just have blasted it clear rather than passing to Saka in the box who then shanked his clearance. Even after that they recycled it about 3 times.
One thing I think needs mentioning, both the crosses for the first 2 goals, then the goal for the 3rd all came from our right hand side again, where was MVE stopping these?

 

[Macca]

My concern is that whilst we might beat the teams around us, they will pick up more points than us elsewhere. As someone else said losing 70% of games will surely send us down. The gap in quality at critical times may be too far to bridge this season

 

[RJASkyblue]

The VAR incompetence and inconsistency frustration is amplified because of last night's result, but the same complaints were there for the blatant hair pull ignored in the Sunderland win.

We are already up against it as a newly promoted side, and we are all learning first hand the PL is not a level playing field. Quite telling that the only defence for the VAR decisions being correct last night is coming from Everton fans.

If you go on the Everton Forum there is a lot of Everton fans saying they got lucky with the first 2 VAR decisions.

 

[lifeskyblue]

Come on man. The only decision that was blatantly wrong was the handball goal

No it wasn’t. After the non penalty decision on awonyi the Everton player fell to the ground and clearly touched the ball with his hand. As the ref gave no foul, var said not in box …the next second clear hand ball.

 

[M&B Stand]

Da Silva at fault for first two goals. He just falls over. Too lightweight. Plenty of other stuff went wrong but he was last line and didn’t do his job.

He no pace either, players just go past him.

If Frank doesn’t put Mfuni at left back and bring Bobby in I’d be amazed.

 

[ccfc1234]

Sorry but the idea that it was premeditated is just nonsense; they were just massively incompetent. These kind of officials do seem to lack any kind of accountability though, which needs to change.

What i don't understand is that unless they are 99% sure in their thinking, why don't they let the referee have a look for themselves?

 

[Ashdown]

Frank needs also to forget this love in with BTA , he’s just not of this level. Gboho still looked dangerous when he was replaced by that clown.
The only excuse to play him is late on in a game where you need someone to keep winning ‘ fouls ‘ to slow a game down.

 

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

BTA is not a Prem level player. We have a few such players who may have been part of our promotion campaign, but unfortunately are not cut out for this level. Hope we survive this season and reshape the squad.

Rushworth ?

 

[southern_comfort]

MVE is not a defensive player in any shape or form his speed gets him out of trouble on some occasions, but he hardy ever puts a defensive tackle in he just jogs alongside an attacking player but most of the time he is out of position and leaves a winger out wide in space he doesn’t read the game or the threat of an attack coming, The sooner Frank sees that BTA is dog shite at this level the better but it seems he picks him for a good training session or likeable attitude. I Evan think Rushworth needs to be rested he is letting in some saveable shots but we don’t won’t to knock his confidence so will need managing carefully, we also need to make subs a lot quicker it’s usually after 60 mins in most games when it’s obvious a lot earlier that someone or something needs tweeking

 

[MTK]

VAR didn’t do its job, and that’s frustrating. We definitely deserved at least a point from that game. We didn’t help ourselves though. And Frank has to reflect on those substitutions. When the first substitution was made, I could not believe that it was BTA. I thought it would be Cheriff to bring a bit of pace upfront and try and trouble their defenders in a different way. Bringing on four new players at once isn’t a bad thing to do. It’s effectively trying to score by creating a bit of chaos isn’t it? But it was just too late. I was impressed with that one pass of Hamer. Reminded me what he can contribute.

We should take heart from that performance though.

 

[Skybluedogwood]

Dreadful officiating full stop. Let’s not just blame VAR for incompetence in reviewing the actual evidence, the referee did not give us any of the key decisions to start with!

Not seen the footage but I’d expect the linesman to also be well placed to see Awoniyi was fouled and frankly in the box. Ref is fairly well placed so zero excuse for him. Moyes was honest in alluding to knowing they got away with a few.

 

[harvey098]

Ended up getting some hospo for last night and was just so proud of the SBA. Sounded so loud all game and everyone around me commenting what great fans we are (not knowing I was Cov). What a stadium as well by the way.

Game was a what-could’ve-been. Awonyi hasn’t got the legs to be left on that long and MVE needs a rest. Generally played well though, certainly competing at this level much more evenly than the start of the season. They’re definitely believing in themselves more and for someone who usually hates the international break, I think 2 weeks off will be a good thing. Regroup, players coming back and have a good crack at it up to Xmas. PUSB

 

[Sick Boy]

End of the day we’ve played 10 and lost 7. We won’t stay up if we keep losing games at the rate we are. Last night should have been at least a point, you simply can’t afford to be losing this much.

Beat Palace and we're tracking over a point a game. We do need to turn some of the defeats into draws but I think people forget how many we used to lose in the top division even when we'd been established there for years.

 

[shmmeee]

My concern is that whilst we might beat the teams around us, they will pick up more points than us elsewhere. As someone else said losing 70% of games will surely send us down. The gap in quality at critical times may be too far to bridge this season

Winning 30% will probably keep us up tbh it’s about a point per game.

 

[Skybluedogwood]

I’d have liked to see Lamps try Cherif on the left as first change and then potentially bring Simms on a little later if he was doing OK in that role. Gboho did really well at both ends of the field, BTA immediately lost us a real threat and is not the answer for left sided cover.

It’s clear MVE is the weakest link defensively and teams are targeting JDS too, especially in the air. I can see us trying a back 3 with Gboho and either Tats or Gboho but at some point with Thomas back he needs to try Mfuni at LB and KKH at RB. I’d like to see Tuna break through too as love Tats but Tuna brings much needed physicality down that flank.

Plenty to be optimistic about though, Yirenkyi looks a lot more comfortable in a team with Mfuni and Torp to help build from the back and Gboho a clear upgrade. Good cameo from Gus too showing how he can play the deeper role finding attacking passes to get us going, it wax interesting he was doing that with Grimes on the pitch.

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Ended up getting some hospo for last night and was just so proud of the SBA. Sounded so loud all game and everyone around me commenting what great fans we are (not knowing I was Cov). What a stadium as well by the way.

Game was a what-could’ve-been. Awonyi hasn’t got the legs to be left on that long and MVE needs a rest. Generally played well though, certainly competing at this level much more evenly than the start of the season. They’re definitely believing in themselves more and for someone who usually hates the international break, I think 2 weeks off will be a good thing. Regroup, players coming back and have a good crack at it up to Xmas. PUSB

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Great photo stadium looks fantastic