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Match Thread Tottenham Hotspur vs Coventry City (A) - Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - Mon 19th October (8pm KO) (16 Viewers)

Last is class and our song but it must've been sung 20 times last night , SBA even more , it all gets a bit tedious

It's a campfire song at best.
 
Last is class and our song but it must've been sung 20 times last night , SBA even more , it all gets a bit tedious

A lot of our songs are about individual players, they're not going to get an outing at the moment when a lot of people seem more interested in putting the boot in to them than supporting them
 
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We were okay IMO, could've scored earlier than we did and before Spurs did in truth.

Very concerning how much time and space we gave Maddison, he was constantly dropping deep to get the ball and there seemed to be no pressure on him at all.

Their first goal was a great finish, the second should've been chalked off and the third isn't great either.

No need to panic, but FL does need to look at some of the selections he made, BTA wasn't great again and some other players struggled as well.
 
We were okay IMO, could've scored earlier than we did and before Spurs did in truth.

Very concerning how much time and space we gave Maddison, he was constantly dropping deep to get the ball and there seemed to be no pressure on him at all.

Their first goal was a great finish, the second should've been chalked off and the third isn't great either.

No need to panic, but FL does need to look at some of the selections he made, BTA wasn't great again and some other players struggled as well.
BTA was one of the better players. Involved and a nuisance.
Grimes, MVE and Rushworth are the big concerns.
 
Game was there for taking.

Rushworth has to do better with both goals 2nd half.
Not a foul on MvE - and on MvE, ooooof think I’d give KKh a run if I’m honest.
Grimes is a passenger away from home now, change it……..
TA looked like he’s been on holiday for a year, couldn’t bloody move.
Hamer also really disappointed.
Subs in general hindered us.

On we go, our defensive shape generally better I thought and we got into couple good transition shapes, but final ball must be quicker and better.

Onto Fulham…….
Yes our subs were poor yesterday. None of them really made an impact. Might as well give Simms, Mfuni, Torp a chance. Need to make amends with the French lads and make use of them as I think they can give us something.
 
Last night showed Awoniyi is a starter and not an option off the bench. I think it was 3 headed chances he had, 2 of which he just ballooned into the air. Really needs to be Simms or Haji (when fit) coming on when we need a goal
 
Yes our subs were poor yesterday. None of them really made an impact. Might as well give Simms, Mfuni, Torp a chance. Need to make amends with the French lads and make use of them as I think they can give us something.

No, the French lads need to make amends and stop doing whatever it is that's pissing Lampard off.
 
Annoying that Tats obviously could have given their left back a torrid time and have been a threat. But he was tied up being a right back with MVE tucked in.
Plus we lack a ball playing central midfielder capable of spreading the ball wide consistently. Grimes far too deep and slow, Yirenkyi is more of a spoiler.
 
Annoying that Tats obviously could have given their left back a torrid time and have been a threat. But he was tied up being a right back with MVE tucked in.
Plus we lack a ball playing central midfielder capable of spreading the ball wide consistently. Grimes far too deep and slow, Yirenkyi is more of a spoiler.
Torp is the man needed in the middle
 
So what does that say about us? Worst team in the league (by position at least) going in to tonight's game. Yet still seen us off 3-1 playing the worst football theyve played this season. Were just far too soft and not clinical enough. Almost apologetic at times. We need a fucking mean streak, amd we need to find it quickly.

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Disappointed with the loss. Rushworth’s keeping for the 3rd was bad. We seem to be standing too far off and allowing teams to shoot pot shots. This happened for the 1st and 3rd goals. Should have shut up shop after our equalizer and played for a draw. Hated Maddison’s celebration for the goal. EMC and Hamer are not PL level players. Need to beat Fulham.
Our substitutions about to take place just before they got their second indicated the first phase of that closing down stage - But then game plan had to change immediately!
 
dont quite get the hamer pile on....he comes on with 15 mins in a gamer where either team barely strung 2 passes together...i dont feel you can really see where hes at unless he gets a full 90 mins. I feel we bring teams down to our level which possibly flatters us a little bit.
 
dont quite get the hamer pile on....he comes on with 15 mins in a gamer where either team barely strung 2 passes together...i dont feel you can really see where hes at unless he gets a full 90 mins. I feel we bring teams down to our level which possibly flatters us a little bit.
Because he's had a few chances and delivered absolutely nothing.
Torp offers more but obv Lampard doesn't rate him, or Simms.
 
There is a fair bit of over reaction to the defeat really.

I am not sure what people expect. Most of the players have little PL experience and are trying to get up to speed. We are technically inferior and that is that. We are going to struggle but need to compete

We are competing pretty well. We don't look overwhelmed and we don't look out of our depth

The centre backs are pretty good and Rudoni looks a PL player.

We don't create enough opportunities to score which is my main worry.

I do worry that the full backs are not really able to compete in a back four away from home.

The keeper is obviously a concern and with hindsight we could have saved money on him and Tchaouna who I have seen very little to suggest he is PL quality.

Its really not that bad though - I expected us to struggle more in games like this in truth
 
Trying to feel positive that at least we’ve started scoring goals. Baby steps!
 
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Id like to see Mfuni compete for that left back spot , id like to atleast see torp get some minutes for grimes , id like to see the quality we signed on the wings to kiss and make up with frank to help us create more / better opportunities in matches rather than just have workhorses who offer no quality in and around the box .

We need to be better really , its ok trying but we are poor with the ball , poor off the ball and give teams too much time and space around our area


We will go down playing how we are
 
Id like to see Mfuni compete for that left back spot , id like to atleast see torp get some minutes for grimes , id like to see the quality we signed on the wings to kiss and make up with frank to help us create more / better opportunities in matches rather than just have workhorses who offer no quality in and around the box .

We need to be better really , its ok trying but we are poor with the ball , poor off the ball and give teams too much time and space around our area


We will go down playing how we are

Torp would be carved open - he is nowhere near the level to occupy Grimes position - look at that Villa game. I assume we wanted Hamer to compete there but probably should have checked he now has not got the body of a 40 year old before we signed him. Next 3 home games will be a big factor for how we do.
 
Torp would be carved open - he is nowhere near the level to occupy Grimes position - look at that Villa game. I assume we wanted Hamer to compete there but probably should have checked he now has not got the body of a 40 year old before we signed him. Next 3 home games will be a big factor for how we do.

ideally we have 2 players with legs and power in central midfield like onyeka and yirnekyi but if lampard wants to play a good ball playing midfielder torp is more than capable of doing what grimes does
 
thought we did pretty well last night

thought the attempt to marry a 4-2-3-1 system on the ball with a 5-3-2 off the ball was interesting as well
 
thought we did pretty well last night

thought the attempt to marry a 4-2-3-1 system on the ball with a 5-3-2 off the ball was interesting as well

Probably explains why maddison had space constantly
 
Id like to see Mfuni compete for that left back spot , id like to atleast see torp get some minutes for grimes , id like to see the quality we signed on the wings to kiss and make up with frank to help us create more / better opportunities in matches rather than just have workhorses who offer no quality in and around the box .

We need to be better really , its ok trying but we are poor with the ball , poor off the ball and give teams too much time and space around our area


We will go down playing how we are
/I think we won't if we play like that, there's enough quality there to give us a chance. We were nowhere near as poor as you are making out.
 
At the point in the second half that we had the momentum to try and get it to 2-2, I liked to see Grimes playing some progressive long balls, it was usually to JDS from what I recall.

On another day, we'd have got a point from that match, so cannot be too downbeat. I do hope gboho and tuna get brought back into the squad for saturday though.
 
Probably explains why maddison had space constantly
no, no it wasn't given that happened was MvE tucked in and Saka dropped to RB off the ball.

In fact in the area Maddison played there were actually 5 players rather than the normal 4-4-2 off the ball shap where there would have been 4 players. (CBs and CMs).
 
Last night showed Awoniyi is a starter and not an option off the bench. I think it was 3 headed chances he had, 2 of which he just ballooned into the air. Really needs to be Simms or Haji (when fit) coming on when we need a goal
He showed last night that he should be behind Cherif & Simms. He only scored 1 header in 4 years at Forest so we have brought a player who is rubbish in the air, as we have all seen, for a team that thrives on set pieces, long throws & getting crosses in.
 

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