Grendel
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Less than France are in ICU...................France is over 1,000 UK is 783 as of Oct 14
Nearly 1100 in French ICU doesn't realy tally with the French case numbers though does it?
It would suggest to me that the numbers of reported cases are well under?
I could be wrong but I'm guessing France aint testing to the same extent?
UK currently officially has just under 800 on ventilators as off yesterday....I don't know how many in ICU....but i'm sure someone on here will let us know soon enough.
My mum 80 with copd stayed at my sisters for the week over Xmas. Was all fineEven I would struggle to believe even this PM would be that stupid, so I won't jump yet...
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I have done screenshots straight from my Pass sanitaire. They are not guesses like what we seem to get here.Nearly 1100 in French ICU doesn't realy tally with the French case numbers though does it?
It would suggest to me that the numbers of reported cases are well under?
I could be wrong but I'm guessing France aint testing to the same extent?
UK currently officially has just under 800 on ventilators as off yesterday....I don't know how many in ICU....but i'm sure someone on here will let us know soon enough.
I have done screenshots straight from my Pass sanitaire. They are not guesses like what we seem to get here.
They also take things much more seriously than we do here. We carry on as though nothing is wrong. Yet in Scotland you now need their pass by law and looks like Wales will follow soon. We have the highest rate in Europe. Our hospitalisation was over 7,000 last time I looked.
Not sure what the argument is here. If you believe Frances figures or not, and not really sure why you wouldn't, surely 'there's one other country as bad as us' isn't what we should be aspiring to.
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I have done screenshots straight from my Pass sanitaire. They are not guesses like what we seem to get here.
They also take things much more seriously than we do here. We carry on as though nothing is wrong. Yet in Scotland you now need their pass by law and looks like Wales will follow soon. We have the highest rate in Europe. Our hospitalisation was over 7,000 last time I looked.
Not sure what the argument is here. If you believe Frances figures or not, and not really sure why you wouldn't, surely 'there's one other country as bad as us' isn't what we should be aspiring to.
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Perhaps France just has more ICU spaces so put more people in ICU as a precautionary measure than the UK because they can. We don’t put people in ICU until absolutely necessary as far as I can tell. Well, unless your name is Boris and you’ve been shaking hands with people who have Covid #bedblocker.
Ha ha...yeah thats definitely it.
Oh poor monsieur, you've got a bit of a cough......we'd better keep an eye on that.....just leapfrog the other 7000 covid patients already in our hospitals & pop yourself up on to the ICU bed theres a good chap....we'll be along soon with a coffee & a copy of L'equipe...
Not sure what the argument is here. If you believe Frances figures or not, and not really sure why you wouldn't, surely 'there's one other country as bad as us' isn't what we should be aspiring to.
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Its fucking ridiculous, what has France got to do with us
Our testing levels are twice as many as France in total and I would guess the gap is widening
I’m talking about people who have tested positive not people with a cough. I thought that was obvious.Ha ha...yeah thats definitely it.
Oh poor monsieur, you've got a bit of a cough......we'd better keep an eye on that.....just leapfrog the other 7000 covid patients already in our hospitals & pop yourself up on to the ICU bed theres a good chap....we'll be along soon with a coffee & a copy of L'equipe...
Of course they are. We have more people with symptoms. The two go hand in hand.Our testing levels are twice as many as France in total and I would guess the gap is widening
Yep Brittania rules the wavesIs it “pretend we have uniquely high data collection standards in the civilised world” o’clock again already?
We have 7,086 in hospital. France has 1,052 in hospital. But you are using the words used to make us look better.Well we aren't we have 700 in ICU now and Germany, France, Romania have more and Spain Bulgaria and Italy are rising.
Surely the conclusion is that we are seeing a natural trend that we did in Israel where the countries who vaccinated far more at the start will see a uplift if immunity through the vaccine starts to decline and that the booster jab rollout now needs to be a focus - not attempts at prevention
It also does raise a question about infection levels - as we are much higher but this is not then proportioned to Hospital/ICU etc.
France has their hospital cases on ICU wards. Any kind of help puts them on the highest level. That is why most in hospital are counted in the number.I never said they were guesses. I just stated that if France has 1053 people in intensive care with Covid, then its highly likely they've got a lot more cases than they're actually testing/finding/recording
The UK has over 7000 in hospital with covid but they're not all in ICU......they have less than 800 on ventilators, so broadly speaking, France has a similar population, simialr hospitalisation & similar ICU cases, yet we're supposed to believe they have about 1/8th of the level of infection/transmission......clearly it doesn't add up, so whilst France is reporting approx. 6k of new cases daily, all the key stats suggest its more likely to be similar to the UK at around 40K.
Well indeed, & I agree.
However its inevitable that national comparisons will continue, so its inevitbable someone will notice when some stats stick out like a sore thumb (or covid toe)
Your standard is being wrong on purpose most of the time.That is embarrassing even by his standards. Pop to an ICU in France and not a wire or a machine in sight - just a few people eating snails.
Our cases are much higher so we need to test more people. That is why we have just over 7,000 in hospital compared to just over 1,000 in hospital in France.This is right and i think it has widened in recent months (even more so compared to Germany). I presume this is at least partly because we’re testing people who necessarily aren’t ill/are asymptomatic
If we’re assuming that everyone will ultimately get it at some stage and the focus is more on minimising the severe symptoms etc then infection rates probably aren’t overly helpful, however, i guess its useful to know the prevalence especially for higher risk people who might want to avoid busier places during this time
We have 7,086 in hospital. France has 1,052 in hospital. But you are using the words used to make us look better.
Where did you get that from because I showed you the official numbers off their pass sanitaire which I needed to be able to go anywhere.You're wrong.
France had just under 7,000 in hospital on 10th Oct....the last date for full data release....they dont put all their covid cases straight into ICU......jeez.
We have 7,086 in hospital. France has 1,052 in hospital. But you are using the words used to make us look better.
Where did you get that from because I showed you the official numbers off their pass sanitaire which I needed to be able to go anywhere.
You showed there was 1052 people in intensive care, not 1052 in hospital. As JHFC says they don't put all their patients straight into IC.Where did you get that from because I showed you the official numbers off their pass sanitaire which I needed to be able to go anywhere.
You showed there was 1052 people in intensive care, not 1052 in hospital. As JHFC says they don't put all their patients straight into IC.
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This seems to be another of those knee/ankle things.
Showed 1052 in hospital. They show their numbers differently. Don't do a Grendel on us.You showed there was 1052 people in intensive care, not 1052 in hospital. As JHFC says they don't put all their patients straight into IC.
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Listen to me hear me out.It’s embarrassing
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