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PVA

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,416
Grendel said:
Are you legally allowed to ask in an interview if someone has been vaccinated?
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Probably not, and I won't ask.

But if it comes up in general conversation and it turns out they are an anti vaxxer then they won't be getting the job.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,417
PVA said:
Not this again.

Are heart attacks contagious?
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Nah it was a shit analogy so apologies haha .

Serious note

Vaccine doesn't stop the spread and you will be off for 10 days vaccinated or not .

There's no argument for morrisons
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,418
PVA said:
Not this again.

Are heart attacks contagious?
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would you put an elderly employee at Morrison’s on reduced pay if they had the flu and hadnt Had the flu jab?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,419
Evo1883 said:
Nah it was a shit analogy so apologies haha .

Serious note

Vaccine doesn't stop the spread and you will be off for 10 days vaccinated or not .

There's no argument for morrisons
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Haha yeah the heart attack argument has been done a hundred times on here

The latest PHE report says that the vaccine does reduce transmission.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,420
PVA said:
Haha yeah the heart attack argument has been done a hundred times on here

The latest PHE report says that the vaccine does reduce transmission.
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By how much
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,421
PVA said:
I don't consider myself left wing, I consider myself centre left.

You can't compare this to sports injuries or other illness/injuries. It's completely novel.

You have a choice of taking a perfectly safe vaccine that reduces the chances of you becoming ill. That makes you more valuable to your employer. Like it or not that's a fact. We are hiring at the moment and i would not employ an anti vaxxer.

Of course stat sick pay is a legal obligation. I have not said otherwise, and I am not saying its a credit to Morrisons that they pay it.

Like I said, I am not condoning forced vaccinations, that is wrong. But people have a choice, and they have to accept whatever comes with making the choice they make.
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What about massively obese people who are at more risk of covid and potentially illness in general?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,422
The NHS are talking of making vaccines compulsory so I presume you lads will be directing your ire at them and not Morrisons if that happens!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,423
I’m sure you should not be asking people at an interview their medical background and confidential information.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,424
This is like another Brexit where people want to pick a side anyway.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,425
Nick said:
What about massively obese people who are at more risk of covid and potentially illness in general?
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He’s acting illegally
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,426
Evo1883 said:
By how much
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45-50% after just one dose. Pretty significant amount really
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,427
Grendel said:
would you put an elderly employee at Morrison’s on reduced pay if they had the flu and hadnt Had the flu jab?
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Should an elderly employee turn up at work to alongside others if they had the flu?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,428
Grendel said:
I’m sure you should not be asking people at an interview their medical background and confidential information.
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I literally just said I won't be asking.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,429
COV said:
Should an elderly employee turn up at work to alongside others if they had the flu?
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What has that to do with the discussion you idiot?
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,430
Grendel said:
What has that to do with the discussion you idiot?
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Discussion it’s just bickering and making up daft scenarios to try and “win”
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,431
COV said:
Discussion
it’s just bickering and making up daft scenarios to try and “win”
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Isn't that your whole account on here?
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,432
I find it funny that Grendel gives full backing to a man who wanted to 'let the bodies pile high' but the thought of a small group of people getting less sick pay is the most abhorrent thing of all time.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,433
All we need is for O'Day to finish his Friday night IRA social and we'll have the full set of clowns in here tonight.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,434
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
All we need is for O'Day to finish his Friday night IRA social and we'll have the full set of clowns in here tonight.
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Grendel

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,435
COV said:
Discussion it’s just bickering and making up daft scenarios to try and “win”
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Eh? Have you even read the Morrison’s article?
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,436
A quick scroll through the Morrisons topic on twitter shows that the majority of people agree with it.

You lads that think a small group of numpties losing out on some sick pay is the most abhorrent thing ever are in the minority. You've taken it waaaay too seriously.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,437
PVA said:
A quick scroll through the Morrisons topic on twitter shows that the majority of people agree with it.

You lads that think a small group of numpties losing out on some sick pay is the most abhorrent thing ever are in the minority. You've taken it waaaay too seriously.
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It is the basic principle you thick twat
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,438
fernandopartridge said:
It is the basic principle you thick twat
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Yeah the basic principle of taking a safe vaccine to protect yourself, your colleagues, your customers. Not fucking rocket science is it. Morrisons have every right to want to keep their employees and customers safe.


Freedom of choice does not mean freedom of consequence. This is what people don't seem to understand.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,439
PVA said:
Yeah the basic principle of taking a safe vaccine to protect yourself, your colleagues, your customers. Not fucking rocket science is it. Morrisons have every right to want to keep their employees and customers safe.


Freedom of choice does not mean freedom of consequence. This is what people don't seem to understand.
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It's not even about the covid vaccine
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,440
fernandopartridge said:
It's not even about the covid vaccine
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Well it is. But what do you think it is about then?

The principle?
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,441
PVA said:
Yeah the basic principle of taking a safe vaccine to protect yourself, your colleagues, your customers. Not fucking rocket science is it. Morrisons have every right to want to keep their employees and customers safe.


Freedom of choice does not mean freedom of consequence. This is what people don't seem to understand.
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I agree with your last paragraph but, again, what's the point of Morrison's doing this? Get Covid when unvaccinated and the probability of needing more time off than is usually funded by employers goes up so, ultimately, the status quo punishes unvaccinated people anyway.

Not that I have much sympathy with the people it'll impact...
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,442
Deleted member 5849 said:
I agree with your last paragraph but, again, what's the point of Morrison's doing this? Get Covid when unvaccinated and the probability of needing more time off than is usually funded by employers goes up so, ultimately, the status quo punishes unvaccinated people anyway.

Not that I have much sympathy with the people it'll impact...
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Vaccinated people don't have to isolate if they get pinged, unvaccinated people do so I guess that's a large part of it?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,443
PVA said:
Yeah the basic principle of taking a safe vaccine to protect yourself, your colleagues, your customers. Not fucking rocket science is it. Morrisons have every right to want to keep their employees and customers safe.


Freedom of choice does not mean freedom of consequence. This is what people don't seem to understand.
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If Morrison’s wasn’t so shit there might be a transmission risk
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,444
Brighton Sky Blue said:
If Morrison’s wasn’t so shit there might be a transmission risk
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Morrisons is alright! The salad bar and hot food counter are decent
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 10, 2021
  • #51,445
PVA said:
Morrisons is alright! The salad bar and hot food counter are decent
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Look at their 'all day breakfast' and come back to me
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 11, 2021
  • #51,446
PVA said:
Well it is. But what do you think it is about then?

The principle?
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The principle is that your employer decides which illness is worthy of sick pay and which isn't.

I asked you before, should somebody double vaccinated yet off work ill with covid get paid yet somebody unvaccinated shouldn't?

Is Morrison's giving its staff paid leave to go and get the vaccine?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 11, 2021
  • #51,447
There are quite a few jobs now in Italy where the Green Pass is now mandatory, including health workers, teachers etc. They reckon that by October this will include supermarket staff. Genuinely think that by November it’ll be a mandatory vaccine, like hepatitis.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 11, 2021
  • #51,448
fernandopartridge said:
The principle is that your employer decides which illness is worthy of sick pay and which isn't.

I asked you before, should somebody double vaccinated yet off work ill with covid get paid yet somebody unvaccinated shouldn't?

Is Morrison's giving its staff paid leave to go and get the vaccine?
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But you can't compare this to any other illness. It's completely novel. It's not like they're saying 'hmm people with cancer you can have sick pay, people with heart disease sorry tough luck lolz'

If someone vaccinated is off work with Covid and someone unvaccinated is off with Covid they both get stat sick pay. If Morrisons decide they want to give the person that only did the bare minium to try and prevent becoming ill with Covid the bare minimum of stat sick pay, while giving the person who actually took steps to try and prevent it, well you can't blame them and they're perfectly entitled to.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 11, 2021
  • #51,449
Sick Boy said:
There are quite a few jobs now in Italy where the Green Pass is now mandatory, including health workers, teachers etc. They reckon that by October this will include supermarket staff. Genuinely think that by November it’ll be a mandatory vaccine, like hepatitis.
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Well these lads, who definitely haven't gone waaaay over the top with their reaction, who are outraged at Morrison’s just reducing sick pay, not forcing anyone to have the vaccine, must be apoplectic at this news.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Sep 11, 2021
  • #51,450
I don't know if this has already been mentioned in the thread but Scotland is now just 11 days away from having more beds filled in hospitals than there was during the peak of last winter's pandemic.
 
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