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Evo1883

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #44,556
stupot07 said:
How the fuck are 8k tourists allowed to enter the country everyday most without quarantine?

Labour says reports of up to 8,000 tourists arriving a day are 'staggering'

Party is demanding hotel quarantine system be tightened up to avoid new Covid variants coming to Britain
www.theguardian.com

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Yep seems utterly ridiculous
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #44,557
clint van damme said:
Netanyahu isn't doing great in the Israeli elections and they've done far better than most.
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Stop going on about Netanyahu, you're never gonna meet him
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #44,558
fernandopartridge said:
Stop going on about Netanyahu, you're never gonna meet him
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I won't give up until he replies to one of my letters and tells me that himself.
 
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Brylowes

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #44,559
Did Chris Witty just say you would have to be completely confident in the safety of the vaccines to consider giving it to children as their chances of ill effects from Covid19 are so low, whereas in adults the chances of getting and suffering with Covid19 are much higher.
Not sure he’s said the right thing there.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 5, 2021
  • #44,560
Brylowes said:
Did Chris Witty just say you would have to be completely confident in the safety of the vaccines to consider giving it to children as their chances of ill effects from Covid19 are so low, whereas in adults the chances of getting and suffering with Covid19 are much higher.
Not sure he’s said the right thing there.
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If it's so low FFS let us return classrooms to normal
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,561
Brylowes said:
Did Chris Witty just say you would have to be completely confident in the safety of the vaccines to consider giving it to children as their chances of ill effects from Covid19 are so low, whereas in adults the chances of getting and suffering with Covid19 are much higher.
Not sure he’s said the right thing there.
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Makes sense
 

Brylowes

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,562
Sky Blue Pete said:
Makes sense
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So is he saying that vaccines aren’t completely safe in adults,
 

skybluetony176

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,563
Brylowes said:
So is he saying that vaccines aren’t completely safe in adults,
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I think he’s saying that they’re not approved for children as testing on children wasn’t a priority given that they’re less susceptible to the effects of Covid so at the moment the focus remains on adults being vaccinated.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,564
Brylowes said:
So is he saying that vaccines aren’t completely safe in adults,
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Not at all, he’s saying you need to be certain of its effects on children before giving it to them.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,565
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not at all, he’s saying you need to be certain of its effects on children before giving it to them.
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I think he’s saying that a fever and headache that many are experiencing is worse than the effects of Covid in u18
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,566
Sky Blue Pete said:
I think he’s saying that a fever and headache that many are experiencing is worse than the effects of Covid in u18
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Well so is the common cold but no school kids were forced to be sent home because someone in their class had it
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,567
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well so is the common cold but no school kids were forced to be sent home because someone in their class had it
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You aren't seriously comparing a common cold and Covid are you?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,568
PVA said:
You aren't seriously comparing a common cold and Covid are you?
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In terms of what both do to a child, yes. After all

‘Schools are safe’
‘Children don’t transmit’

‘But everyone still has to wear a mask, get tested and the teacher can’t move’
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,569
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well so is the common cold but no school kids were forced to be sent home because someone in their class had it
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Yep that’s a fair question. So if the reason was to avoid spreading Covid and now it’s not gonna have the same effect then things may well get back to normal
 
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chiefdave

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,570
Just saw this on my timeline. Should be some good data on the impact of opening up in the next few weeks! Are there any studies that have looked at states in the US that have opened everything up with very little in the way of restrictions and how they compare to states that have remained locked down?

 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,571
chiefdave said:
Just saw this on my timeline. Should be some good data on the impact of opening up in the next few weeks! Are there any studies that have looked at states in the US that have opened everything up with very little in the way of restrictions and how they compare to states that have remained locked down?

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Wow, Texas is in no position to be allowing that.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,572
FFS

England set to suffer sharp drop in Covid vaccine doses (msn.com)
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,573
Brighton Sky Blue said:
FFS

England set to suffer sharp drop in Covid vaccine doses (msn.com)
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Bottom of article suggests still on track (to hit original deadlines) and it was one of a couple of scenarios, so finger crossed. Surprised numbers have dropped that low though, I thought AZ were knocking out around 2m per week, plus Pfizer and now Moderna coming on stream. J&J might be around in July as well.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,574
CCFCSteve said:
Bottom of article suggests still on track (to hit original deadlines) and it was one of a couple of scenarios, so finger crossed. Surprised numbers have dropped that low though, I thought AZ were knocking out around 2m per week, plus Pfizer and now Moderna coming on stream. J&J might be around in July as well.
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I was also thinking Novavax is already in production and just waiting for final approval. Feels like a kick in the balls seeing headlines like that though.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,575
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I was also thinking Novavax is already in production and just waiting for final approval. Feels like a kick in the balls seeing headlines like that though.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Hopefully they’re holding off some of the ‘good vaccine news’ until it’s 100% certain.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 6, 2021
  • #44,576
CCFCSteve said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. Hopefully they’re holding off some of the ‘good vaccine news’ until it’s 100% certain.
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Not sure about that, Zahawi got hopes up of doubling the rollout shortly before it got scrapped. Pretty nervous about it.
 

Marty

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,577
Just had my first vaccine, didn't even feel it go in but arm is feeling heavy and tender already.
 
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jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,578
Im Envious....49, turn 50 in a few months.....still waiting for the call.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,579
Over 4000 deaths in a single day in Brazil. That is terrible.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,580
Just to share a frustration really, but last week not long after I got home from work, I received a whatsapp telling me they were giving away the pfizer jab at the local mosque on a 1st come 1st served basis to use up surplus supply......it was until 6pm or when they ran out...whichever came first.

As it was already 6pm by the time I got the message, and I'd just got out of the shower & had yet to eat my tea, I didn't bother based upon the suspicion it would be a wasted journey.......turns out the cut off was about 6.30pm so it probably would have been....

Now, the good selfless me is just pleased that the vaccine was not wasted......However the self-centred me is pissed off that this ad-hoc free-for-all was basically just allowed to leak out via NHS workers private whatsapp groups, which started at 2.00pm when they realised most of the demographic booked in were going to be no-shows.....and resulted in a huge queue of people around the block being disgruntled at being turned away.....

Anyway.....thats my morning moan out of the way.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,581
That's a 6.2m shortfall in doses, 33.5m vs 39.7m

31.4m first doses as of 1st April, 4.96m second doses

Of the 33.5m by the end of July, assuming the 12 week dosage interval, 25.5m people will be due a second dose. That means that there are only 8m left over to deliver as first doses which might just cover the over 40s.

As with everything else in the pandemic, younger people are disproportionately affected. Staff going back to work in pubs and restaurants unvaccinated and entirely unrepresented by political parties,
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,582
fernandopartridge said:
That's a 6.2m shortfall in doses, 33.5m vs 39.7m

31.4m first doses as of 1st April, 4.96m second doses

Of the 33.5m by the end of July, assuming the 12 week dosage interval, 25.5m people will be due a second dose. That means that there are only 8m left over to deliver as first doses which might just cover the over 40s.

As with everything else in the pandemic, younger people are disproportionately affected. Staff going back to work in pubs and restaurants unvaccinated and entirely unrepresented by political parties,
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Well that’s how it works when the party of the over 50s keeps getting in and the party of the under 50s is headed by a wet lettuce. We really need Moderna to arrive on time and for Novavax especially to hurry up and get approval.
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,583
What a tit

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,584
fernandopartridge said:
That's a 6.2m shortfall in doses, 33.5m vs 39.7m

31.4m first doses as of 1st April, 4.96m second doses

Of the 33.5m by the end of July, assuming the 12 week dosage interval, 25.5m people will be due a second dose. That means that there are only 8m left over to deliver as first doses which might just cover the over 40s.

As with everything else in the pandemic, younger people are disproportionately affected. Staff going back to work in pubs and restaurants unvaccinated and entirely unrepresented by political parties,
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I think that’s a slight over exaggeration Fernando. The shortfall is obviously not good news, however, the oldest and higher risk receiving the jab first appears to have been the right option ie protect those most at risk of hospitalisation/death. This already appears to be having a material affect on these most important numbers

The current shortfall is down to unforeseen circumstances and there is still a question mark for many youngsters (understandably) whether they actually want to take the vaccine or not....although I feel they are going to be forced into it ! I’m sure a far higher proportion just want to get back to some kind of normality, vaccine or not, after having their lives disproportionately affected by a virus which appears to have a far lesser impact on the young.

Finally, they are still going to get the vaccine and hopefully pretty quickly once the new vaccines come on stream, so are looking at a possible short delay over the summer months when hopefully transmission rates are low. Fingers crossed anyway
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,585
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Well that’s how it works when the party of the over 50s keeps getting in and the party of the under 50s is headed by a wet lettuce. We really need Moderna to arrive on time and for Novavax especially to hurry up and get approval.
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hopefully the J&J one jab vaccine will be available by mid summer as well
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,586
Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads

Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab

A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,587
David O'Day said:
Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads

Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab

A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Well it was never just the EU was it .
In fact the Nordic countries delved extremely deep on if it was linked .
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,588
David O'Day said:
Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads

Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab

A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.
www.bbc.co.uk
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And I know I read an article suggesting the under 39/40 cohort were to receive another brand weeks before this all came about.
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,589
David O'Day said:
Just the EU trying to hide their own mistakes lads

Covid: Under-30s offered alternative to Oxford-AstraZeneca jab

A review finds a "plausible" link to rare blood clots, but says the jab remains beneficial for most.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Bit of a difference between recommending another brand for U30s and pulling it all together.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 7, 2021
  • #44,590
shmmeee said:
Bit of a difference between recommending another brand for U30s and pulling it all together.
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Not really, pulling it so they can look at the side effects is not the same as you seem to be claiming.
 
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