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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,721
Sky Blue Pete said:
Course not we’d deal with as we have before. If there’s good reason for public health purposes then yes. What’s the alternative? Brazil?
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May as well all fucking top ourselves now if people want lockdown and restrictions for the rest of their lives.

No wonder people believe so much shit and get petrified when the wind blows when they want everything closed down forever.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,722
Nick said:
May as well all fucking top ourselves now if people want lockdown and restrictions for the rest of their lives.

No wonder people believe so much shit and get petrified when the wind blows when they want everything closed down forever.
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You’ve jumped off the other end there haven’t you? I do often wonder about how as a society we would have coped had this virus affected both ends of the age spectrum as normal virus’ do
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,723
Nick said:
May as well all fucking top ourselves now if people want lockdown and restrictions for the rest of their lives.

No wonder people believe so much shit and get petrified when the wind blows when they want everything closed down forever.
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Surely you’re being as sensationalist as the people you’re complaining about?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,724
Ian1779 said:
Surely you’re being as sensationalist as the people you’re complaining about?
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I'm just going off the responses to that survey. Clearly not a huge sample but worrying that people think that way at all.

Not sensationalist at all.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,725
Nick said:
I'm just going off the responses to that survey. Clearly not a huge sample but worrying that people think that way at all.

Not sensationalist at all.
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I had a mate visiting me who went absolutely ballistic when I said the the thought of wearing a mask for much longer wasn't something I wanted to do.

Told me 'it was a small sacrifice to make' and that apparently I was selfish for having such thoughts.

The same guy not two days later then changed the date on a month old PCR test so he could get on a plane without having to pay for a new one.
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,726
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I had a mate visiting me who went absolutely ballistic when I said the the thought of wearing a mask for much longer wasn't something I wanted to do.

Told me 'it was a small sacrifice to make' and that apparently I was selfish for having such thoughts.

The same guy not two days later then changed the date on a month old PCR test so he could get on a plane without having to pay for a new one.
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My parents on about going to the south coast for a break, they haven't been out the house in well over a year. Both been jabbed and fully vaccinated.

Apparently they've been told that you have to piss into a bag instead of using the public toilets down by the beach, then chuck the bags away at the end of the day, plus you're supposed to wear surgical gloves if using handrails, and all kinds of rules. I get the concerns but some of this stuff seems absolutely nuts & its crazy that people can't be relied upon to use common sense.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,727
COV said:
My parents on about going to the south coast for a break, they haven't been out the house in well over a year. Both been jabbed and fully vaccinated.

Apparently they've been told that you have to piss into a bag instead of using the public toilets down by the beach, then chuck the bags away at the end of the day, plus you're supposed to wear surgical gloves if using handrails, and all kinds of rules. I get the concerns but some of this stuff seems absolutely nuts & its crazy that people can't be relied upon to use common sense.
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I've been to Cornwall,Devon and Somerset during the pandemic and never seen any of that
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,728
Is that all it takes to get someone to piss in a bag for their entire holiday? Great stuff.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,729
Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,730
Sky Blue Pete said:
Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn
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35k it says on the official site. The rate of growth has slowed over the last week
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,731
fernandopartridge said:
35k it says on the official site. The rate of growth has slowed over the last week
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Sorry you’re correct misread.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,732
Sky Blue Pete said:
Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn
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Aren’t 80% of long term symptoms gone after 12 - 16 weeks? I haven’t checked but long term is 3 months of some symptoms isn’t it?
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,733
Grendel said:
Aren’t 80% of long term symptoms gone after 12 - 16 weeks? I haven’t checked but long term is 3 months of some symptoms isn’t it?
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Just look up Long Covid, I think that’s what he’s referring to and it’s not nice
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,734
COV said:
Just look up Long Covid, I think that’s what he’s referring to and it’s not nice
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What’s the solution?
 
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Deleted member 9744

Guest
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,735
Grendel said:
What’s the solution?
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A competent Government
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,736
Grendel said:
What’s the solution?
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Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 9, 2021
  • #48,737
Sky Blue Pete said:
Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter
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Well if letting it run wild now was the plan they’re doing a good job- hospitalisations of fully vaccinated people on the rise

 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,738
Sky Blue Pete said:
Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter
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Sorry Pete, I hate the Tories and think they've handled everything badly, but there is no way that this delta variant could be realistically controlled within the standards of a free society. It looks like it will run wild in many places, not just here.
 
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,739
COV said:
Well if letting it run wild now was the plan they’re doing a good job- hospitalisations of fully vaccinated people on the rise

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How many of those are fully vaccinated?
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,740
Patients in hospital at 8.00 am have nearly trebled in a month. I don't understand how they are going to stop this increase. 10 weeks or so away from the NHS to be under the same pressure it was when the pandemic was at its last peak.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,741
Are they expecting it to burn itself out?
 

LastGarrison

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,742
Certainly feels like a push for herd immunity now that that majority of the vulnerable have been vaccinated.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,743
Philosorapter said:
Patients in hospital at 8.00 am have nearly trebled in a month. I don't understand how they are going to stop this increase. 10 weeks or so away from the NHS to be under the same pressure it was when the pandemic was at its last peak.
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The vaccine will make all the difference in the world is the plan. Also haven’t the scientists said 9 out of 10 adults have antibodies. So the mix of those means there is a limited group (still millions) who could be affected.

Had to chuckle in the park last night a 50 odd year old bloke explaining to his misses that it’s only killed people who were going to die anyway but maybe 6 months earlier!!!!

We walk amongst these imbeciles
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,744
Sky Blue Pete said:
The vaccine will make all the difference in the world is the plan. Also haven’t the scientists said 9 out of 10 adults have antibodies. So the mix of those means there is a limited group (still millions) who could be affected.

Had to chuckle in the park last night a 50 odd year old bloke explaining to his misses that it’s only killed people who were going to die anyway but maybe 6 months earlier!!!!

We walk amongst these imbeciles
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An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,745
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s not a high percentage and no no one I know wants that
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It’s still pretty high considering, there was one here for 5 months and it was awful.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,746
Sick Boy said:
It’s still pretty high considering, there was one here for 5 months and it was awful.
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Sure I agree
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,747
Philosorapter said:
An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.
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From a small base but I do understand how exponential works and quickly this could become as bad
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,748
Philosorapter said:
An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.
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Absolute numbers?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,749
LastGarrison said:
Certainly feels like a push for herd immunity now that that majority of the vulnerable have been vaccinated.
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It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,750
Sick Boy said:
It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.
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The plan is boosters from September and, of course, if younger people have been vaccinated by then, spread will be substantially lower.

That being said...

I'm sure we had these conversations last summer, and in the run-up to Christmas.

Of course we hope vaccines do their thing, but it'd be a fool not to take note of such large %age increases, and not be keeping an eye on what happens going forward, especially in the next couple of weeks as before you know it, we're allowing people to hug and kiss others on tube trains, so inevitably it'll go up at that stage. I'm still wondering if masks on public transport / shops end up compulsory after all, when it comes to the detail on Monday - if nothing else than to make the spread manageable for health services. In that respect, keeping an eye on trends is important...
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,751
Sick Boy said:
It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.
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The plan in September is to give all over 50’s a booster jab it seems and then a flu jab at the same time

Interestingly I know a few people who have been jabbed twice and have had Covid after jab 2. The odd thing is they have had the second jabs fairly recently but over the 3 week period
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,752
How many people are admitted and released from hospital on the same day ?

My mate was twice .. then ended up actually in ICU on the 3rd

He also had long covid , so he returned to work after a month , but struggled with fatigue for a further 2 or 3 months
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,753
Grendel said:
The plan in September is to give all over 50’s a booster jab it seems and then a flu jab at the same time

Interestingly I know a few people who have been jabbed twice and have had Covid after jab 2. The odd thing is they have had the second jabs fairly recently but over the 3 week period
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As mentioned, certainly not 100% effective. If, however, you can restrict prevelance, and those people who end up catching Covid are mainly AOK, then all is good...

Still looking forward to the arrival of Covidsip in Boots!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,754
Can't help but think you can get too much information sometimes.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

But European regulators say the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh the risks.
www.bbc.co.uk

In the good old days of no transparency, you wouldn't know this, or the AZ side effects. Probably best not to know them when the risk is small, too!
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 10, 2021
  • #48,755
Deleted member 5849 said:
Can't help but think you can get too much information sometimes.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

But European regulators say the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh the risks.
www.bbc.co.uk

In the good old days of no transparency, you wouldn't know this, or the AZ side effects. Probably best not to know them when the risk is small, too!
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If you read side effects on a leaflet of any prescription drug you’d take nothing
 
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