Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (30 Viewers)

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

I'm just going off the responses to that survey. Clearly not a huge sample but worrying that people think that way at all.

Not sensationalist at all.

I had a mate visiting me who went absolutely ballistic when I said the the thought of wearing a mask for much longer wasn't something I wanted to do.

Told me 'it was a small sacrifice to make' and that apparently I was selfish for having such thoughts.

The same guy not two days later then changed the date on a month old PCR test so he could get on a plane without having to pay for a new one.

 

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[COV]

I had a mate visiting me who went absolutely ballistic when I said the the thought of wearing a mask for much longer wasn't something I wanted to do.

Told me 'it was a small sacrifice to make' and that apparently I was selfish for having such thoughts.

The same guy not two days later then changed the date on a month old PCR test so he could get on a plane without having to pay for a new one.

My parents on about going to the south coast for a break, they haven't been out the house in well over a year. Both been jabbed and fully vaccinated.

Apparently they've been told that you have to piss into a bag instead of using the public toilets down by the beach, then chuck the bags away at the end of the day, plus you're supposed to wear surgical gloves if using handrails, and all kinds of rules. I get the concerns but some of this stuff seems absolutely nuts & its crazy that people can't be relied upon to use common sense.

 

[clint van damme]

My parents on about going to the south coast for a break, they haven't been out the house in well over a year. Both been jabbed and fully vaccinated.

Apparently they've been told that you have to piss into a bag instead of using the public toilets down by the beach, then chuck the bags away at the end of the day, plus you're supposed to wear surgical gloves if using handrails, and all kinds of rules. I get the concerns but some of this stuff seems absolutely nuts & its crazy that people can't be relied upon to use common sense.

I've been to Cornwall,Devon and Somerset during the pandemic and never seen any of that

 

[SBT]

Is that all it takes to get someone to piss in a bag for their entire holiday? Great stuff.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn

 

[fernandopartridge]

Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn

35k it says on the official site. The rate of growth has slowed over the last week

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

35k it says on the official site. The rate of growth has slowed over the last week

Sorry you’re correct misread.

 

[Grendel]

Only 37500 infections today so all set for complete opening up and removing all restrictions. Spare a though for the 500 or so who will suffer from long term symptoms. And no I don’t want to lockdown for ever I just want some sensible steps forward as well learn

Aren’t 80% of long term symptoms gone after 12 - 16 weeks? I haven’t checked but long term is 3 months of some symptoms isn’t it?

 

[COV]

Aren’t 80% of long term symptoms gone after 12 - 16 weeks? I haven’t checked but long term is 3 months of some symptoms isn’t it?

Just look up Long Covid, I think that’s what he’s referring to and it’s not nice

 

[Grendel]

Just look up Long Covid, I think that’s what he’s referring to and it’s not nice

What’s the solution?

 

[Hertsccfc]

What’s the solution?

A competent Government

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

What’s the solution?

Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter

 

[COV]

Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter

Well if letting it run wild now was the plan they’re doing a good job- hospitalisations of fully vaccinated people on the rise

 

[fernandopartridge]

Probably not to let it run wild. Although Whitty has said better now than the autumn and winter

Sorry Pete, I hate the Tories and think they've handled everything badly, but there is no way that this delta variant could be realistically controlled within the standards of a free society. It looks like it will run wild in many places, not just here.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Well if letting it run wild now was the plan they’re doing a good job- hospitalisations of fully vaccinated people on the rise

How many of those are fully vaccinated?

 

[Philosorapter]

Patients in hospital at 8.00 am have nearly trebled in a month. I don't understand how they are going to stop this increase. 10 weeks or so away from the NHS to be under the same pressure it was when the pandemic was at its last peak.

 

[Philosorapter]

Are they expecting it to burn itself out?

 

[LastGarrison]

Certainly feels like a push for herd immunity now that that majority of the vulnerable have been vaccinated.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Patients in hospital at 8.00 am have nearly trebled in a month. I don't understand how they are going to stop this increase. 10 weeks or so away from the NHS to be under the same pressure it was when the pandemic was at its last peak.

The vaccine will make all the difference in the world is the plan. Also haven’t the scientists said 9 out of 10 adults have antibodies. So the mix of those means there is a limited group (still millions) who could be affected.

Had to chuckle in the park last night a 50 odd year old bloke explaining to his misses that it’s only killed people who were going to die anyway but maybe 6 months earlier!!!!

We walk amongst these imbeciles

 

[Philosorapter]

The vaccine will make all the difference in the world is the plan. Also haven’t the scientists said 9 out of 10 adults have antibodies. So the mix of those means there is a limited group (still millions) who could be affected.

Had to chuckle in the park last night a 50 odd year old bloke explaining to his misses that it’s only killed people who were going to die anyway but maybe 6 months earlier!!!!

We walk amongst these imbeciles

An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.

 

[Sick Boy]

That’s not a high percentage and no no one I know wants that

It’s still pretty high considering, there was one here for 5 months and it was awful.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

It’s still pretty high considering, there was one here for 5 months and it was awful.

Sure I agree

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.

From a small base but I do understand how exponential works and quickly this could become as bad

 

[Grendel]

An increase of 55.9% admitted to hospital over the last 7 days.

Deaths up 43.1% over the same period as well.

Absolute numbers?

 

[Sick Boy]

Certainly feels like a push for herd immunity now that that majority of the vulnerable have been vaccinated.

It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.

 

[NorthernWisdom]

It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.

The plan is boosters from September and, of course, if younger people have been vaccinated by then, spread will be substantially lower.

That being said...

I'm sure we had these conversations last summer, and in the run-up to Christmas.

Of course we hope vaccines do their thing, but it'd be a fool not to take note of such large %age increases, and not be keeping an eye on what happens going forward, especially in the next couple of weeks as before you know it, we're allowing people to hug and kiss others on tube trains, so inevitably it'll go up at that stage. I'm still wondering if masks on public transport / shops end up compulsory after all, when it comes to the detail on Monday - if nothing else than to make the spread manageable for health services. In that respect, keeping an eye on trends is important...

 

[Grendel]

It would be ok if the vaccine gave 100% immunity and didn’t wear off over time. Some of the vulnerable will be coming up to 9 months post-vaccination in less than 2 months.

The plan in September is to give all over 50’s a booster jab it seems and then a flu jab at the same time

Interestingly I know a few people who have been jabbed twice and have had Covid after jab 2. The odd thing is they have had the second jabs fairly recently but over the 3 week period

 

[Evo1883]

How many people are admitted and released from hospital on the same day ?

My mate was twice .. then ended up actually in ICU on the 3rd

He also had long covid , so he returned to work after a month , but struggled with fatigue for a further 2 or 3 months

 

[NorthernWisdom]

The plan in September is to give all over 50’s a booster jab it seems and then a flu jab at the same time

Interestingly I know a few people who have been jabbed twice and have had Covid after jab 2. The odd thing is they have had the second jabs fairly recently but over the 3 week period

As mentioned, certainly not 100% effective. If, however, you can restrict prevelance, and those people who end up catching Covid are mainly AOK, then all is good...

Still looking forward to the arrival of Covidsip in Boots!

 

[NorthernWisdom]

Can't help but think you can get too much information sometimes.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

But European regulators say the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh the risks.

www.bbc.co.uk

In the good old days of no transparency, you wouldn't know this, or the AZ side effects. Probably best not to know them when the risk is small, too!

 

[Grendel]

Can't help but think you can get too much information sometimes.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

But European regulators say the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh the risks.

www.bbc.co.uk

In the good old days of no transparency, you wouldn't know this, or the AZ side effects. Probably best not to know them when the risk is small, too!

If you read side effects on a leaflet of any prescription drug you’d take nothing

 

[NorthernWisdom]

If you read side effects on a leaflet of any prescription drug you’d take nothing

Indeed. An obvious consequence of changing some state, is the risk of changing the state in some other way. The aim is for it to be low risk, after all.

At a time when we need as many as possible vaccinated to reduce spread however, it isn't helpful.

 

[Sick Boy]

Can't help but think you can get too much information sometimes.

Heart inflammation link to Pfizer and Moderna jabs

But European regulators say the benefits of Covid vaccines continue to far outweigh the risks.

www.bbc.co.uk

In the good old days of no transparency, you wouldn't know this, or the AZ side effects. Probably best not to know them when the risk is small, too!

Agreed. I saw this a few hours after getting the Pfizer and admit that it made me feel worried. It’s good to be aware but it’s hardly going to encourage those who are hesitant.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The plan in September is to give all over 50’s a booster jab it seems and then a flu jab at the same time

Interestingly I know a few people who have been jabbed twice and have had Covid after jab 2. The odd thing is they have had the second jabs fairly recently but over the 3 week period

Me too. It is pretty weird.

I've barely known anyone to have had it over 15 months but 3 that have caught it after having had the second vaccination.

 

[shmmeee]

Me too. It is pretty weird.

I've barely known anyone to have had it over 15 months but 3 that have caught it after having had the second vaccination.

It’s not weird. Most people have had a jab and cases are high.