Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (23 Viewers)

xcraigx · May 7, 2021

I had the AZ on Thursday morning. I felt perfectly fine until 6pm and since then I've gradually felt worse. Sporadic uncontrollable shaking and feeling bitterly cold whilst doing so. The house is like an oven and usually I would be shirtless but got a shirt, jumper and coat on too. Also got a sick feeling, slight headache and total lethargy though when I try to sleep I'm not tired. Hopefully it'll pass quickly. The wife is suffering the same but she has managed to nod off so my headache may now clear a little quicker.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 7, 2021

hill83 said:
Choice of vaccines for under 40s now. I’ll be swerving AZ if I can. I know the risk is low but if I can why not? I’m a gambler and the risk of clots from AZ is higher than the risk of serious illness from Covid at my age. Mental not to given the choice. I’d take a Stella over a Carling.

The risk isn’t just low it’s close to zero

clint van damme · May 7, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Third of people report enjoying lockdown - Nuffield Foundation

On balance a third of people in the UK have been enjoying the lockdown,...

www.nuffieldfoundation.org

Thats from he first lock down though.
Paid to stay at home during a hot summer, of course people were going t enjoy it.

I think the second lockdown was a far worse experience for a lot of people, Icertainly found it tougher going.

I also don't think you should conflate this with people who have genuine concerns about the easing of restrictions due to a fear of the virus.

People have had covid horror stories morning noon and nightmare over year. Its going to affect people.

skybluetony176 · May 7, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
The risk isn’t just low it’s close to zero

About the same as flying to the canaries I think I read somewhere. Many many times lower than something commonly taken by lower age groups such as the contraceptive pill.

skybluetony176 · May 7, 2021

hill83 said:
Choice of vaccines for under 40s now. I’ll be swerving AZ if I can. I know the risk is low but if I can why not? I’m a gambler and the risk of clots from AZ is higher than the risk of serious illness from Covid at my age. Mental not to given the choice. I’d take a Stella over a Carling.

Drinking alcohol increases your risk of blood clots, especially DVT’s. The units of alcohol being a factor so stick to the Carling

CCFCSteve · May 7, 2021

xcraigx said:
I had the AZ on Thursday morning. I felt perfectly fine until 6pm and since then I've gradually felt worse. Sporadic uncontrollable shaking and feeling bitterly cold whilst doing so. The house is like an oven and usually I would be shirtless but got a shirt, jumper and coat on too. Also got a sick feeling, slight headache and total lethargy though when I try to sleep I'm not tired. Hopefully it'll pass quickly. The wife is suffering the same but she has managed to nod off so my headache may now clear a little quicker.

Usually sorts itself out in a couple of days. I had some painkillers to shift headache but rest gradually improved. Hope you feel better later

Deleted member 5849 · May 7, 2021

xcraigx said:
I had the AZ on Thursday morning. I felt perfectly fine until 6pm and since then I've gradually felt worse. Sporadic uncontrollable shaking and feeling bitterly cold whilst doing so. The house is like an oven and usually I would be shirtless but got a shirt, jumper and coat on too. Also got a sick feeling, slight headache and total lethargy though when I try to sleep I'm not tired. Hopefully it'll pass quickly. The wife is suffering the same but she has managed to nod off so my headache may now clear a little quicker.

Sounds like what I got. All I can say is that if that's the mild side effects, I'm glad I haven't caught Covid!

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 7, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
'26% felt they would miss lockdown more than not miss it.'

That's more than one in four people.

Doesn't mean they love it. Almost certainly means they've found the less hectic pace of life and not being completely nose to the grindstone or having to go to engagements etc that they don't really want to.

Bu at the same time do you think they love the idea of being separated from family and friends on a continual basis? Or home schooling? I doubt it. It's just lockdown feels like it's given them more time and freedom that they'll lose again when it goes.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 7, 2021

xcraigx said:
I had the AZ on Thursday morning. I felt perfectly fine until 6pm and since then I've gradually felt worse. Sporadic uncontrollable shaking and feeling bitterly cold whilst doing so. The house is like an oven and usually I would be shirtless but got a shirt, jumper and coat on too. Also got a sick feeling, slight headache and total lethargy though when I try to sleep I'm not tired. Hopefully it'll pass quickly. The wife is suffering the same but she has managed to nod off so my headache may now clear a little quicker.

That's really put me off that one. I'm like that anyway.

xcraigx · May 7, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That's really put me off that one. I'm like that anyway.

I got about an hour of sleep all night, very similar to when I had flu (or a bad cold) a couple of years back. This morning however i'm back at around 90%, much much better. Paracetamol certainly helped during the night so don't let it put you off. If this is a mild reaction then i'm very glad I didn't have the real thing.

Deleted member 5849 · May 7, 2021

xcraigx said:
I got about an hour of sleep all night, very similar to when I had flu (or a bad cold) a couple of years back. This morning however i'm back at around 90%, much much better. Paracetamol certainly helped during the night so don't let it put you off. If this is a mild reaction then i'm very glad I didn't have the real thing.

Exactly. Given the choice between being ill for a couple of days, or *ill* for a few months, I know which I'll take!

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 7, 2021

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Doesn't mean they love it. Almost certainly means they've found the less hectic pace of life and not being completely nose to the grindstone or having to go to engagements etc that they don't really want to.

Bu at the same time do you think they love the idea of being separated from family and friends on a continual basis? Or home schooling? I doubt it. It's just lockdown feels like it's given them more time and freedom that they'll lose again when it goes.

I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying. My point was that some people are (for whatever reason) enjoying the lockdown situation and shaming others into their beliefs by playing the guilt card. Whether it is 1% or 10%, there are people like that.

Nick · May 7, 2021

hill83 said:
Choice of vaccines for under 40s now. I’ll be swerving AZ if I can. I know the risk is low but if I can why not? I’m a gambler and the risk of clots from AZ is higher than the risk of serious illness from Covid at my age. Mental not to given the choice. I’d take a Stella over a Carling.

Have one of each, mix your drinks.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 7, 2021

clint van damme said:
Thats from he first lock down though.
Paid to stay at home during a hot summer, of course people were going t enjoy it.

I think the second lockdown was a far worse experience for a lot of people, Icertainly found it tougher going.

I also don't think you should conflate this with people who have genuine concerns about the easing of restrictions due to a fear of the virus.

People have had covid horror stories morning noon and nightmare over year. Its going to affect people.

Yes, I certainly see where you are coming from. I don't think for a moment that the second and third lockdowns weren't worse on people. The latest one certainly affected a few people I know who I never thought would be.

I've said many times that I respect the views of those with genuine concerns, but I also think healthy debate between the lifting of restrictions versus other issues such as mental health and economy etc etc, is a debate worth having. As it happens, it looks like we are nearly out of it now, so I don't have a problem with the exit strategy as it stands. I do have an issue with people who want to impose their views on others in the form of guilt. They may be a minority, but it does happen.

I said previously that at the start of the pandemic that I thought it was bringing out the best in humanity, but as we near the end of it, I have also seen a lot of things which make me feel like we have seen the worst too.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 7, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I don't disagree with a lot of what you are saying. My point was that some people are (for whatever reason) enjoying the lockdown situation and shaming others into their beliefs by playing the guilt card. Whether it is 1% or 10%, there are people like that.

Fair e nough. I do actually know a couple of people who are very much using the guilt trip of lockdown to their advantage.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · May 7, 2021

Nick said:
Have one of each, mix your drinks.

A Pfizerbomb

Deleted member 5849 · May 8, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
No, you are scraping the barrel and trying to insinuate that I have been attacking people with mental health conditions because my point of view differs from yours, when in actual fact I have done my best on this forum to try and support people for the most part.

I said 'some people love the lockdown and want to impose stronger measures on others', which does have some legs, but is still just my opinion which you have seemingly failed at counter-arguing without screaming and shouting like a five year old. The fact you want to have me burned in public for a quite tame point of view is more of a of a picture of you than it is of me.

If this conversation is genuinely affecting you then let's just leave it.

You have attacked people with mental health conditions, you have attacked me. You have trivialised and mocked and demeaned.
Everybody says things they don't mean, or stupidly, foolishly. None of us are perfect, or can be expected to know what others feel when something is said and done.

After having had it pointed out to double down, however, is... not cool.

And dangerous.

Because I've seen in the past with people, what happens if they think nobody will believe them, or take them seriously. We have a mental health thread for that reason after all.
So fuck off with that shit. You also said *I* was a lockdown lover and wanted everyone else to be scared too.

Fuck off you c**t. You just can't see it.

SBAndy · May 8, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Fuck off you c**t.

Good morning to you too!

Deleted member 5849 · May 8, 2021

SBAndy said:
Good morning to you too!

He might want to ask why it's him I'm particularly upset with, and not others with similar views to him...

Deleted member 5849 · May 8, 2021

And as for the lockdown lover accusation (and yes, it was direct to me) then he knows nothing about me, or what me, my family, or closest friends have been through, so he can fuck off with the trite phrases, and the attempts to weasel out.

SBAndy · May 8, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
He might want to ask why it's him I'm particularly upset with, and not others with similar views to him...

Watching from afar (and this is all I will say on the matter), I can understand why you’re pissed off.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 8, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
You have attacked people with mental health conditions, you have attacked me. You have trivialised and mocked and demeaned.
Everybody says things they don't mean, or stupidly, foolishly. None of us are perfect, or can be expected to know what others feel when something is said and done.

After having had it pointed out to double down, however, is... not cool.

And dangerous.

Because I've seen in the past with people, what happens if they think nobody will believe them, or take them seriously. We have a mental health thread for that reason after all.
So fuck off with that shit. You also said *I* was a lockdown lover and wanted everyone else to be scared too.

Fuck off you c**t. You just can't see it.

I have not attacked anyone with mental health conditions. Pointing out that some people want to restrict others is dangerous in what way exactly? It is true, and mental health conditions, important surgery, and other consequences as a result of further lockdown restrictions are serious themselves and therefore it is worth having the debate.

So we are not allowed to have an opinion in case it upsets you? What exactly is this mental health condition that you are claiming is so sensitive. I really don't get it. Other than calling you a 'lockdown lover' which, considering that you were having a go at people wanting to have restrictions lifted, is hardly crime of the century.

You have just called me a c**t again, stop playing the victim.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 8, 2021

SBAndy said:
Watching from afar (and this is all I will say on the matter), I can understand why you’re pissed off.

Please, enlighten me.

SBAndy · May 8, 2021

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Please, enlighten me.

Not wishing to go any further as I’m not wanting to be embroiled in all this. Suffice to say, I think you and he should just not bother from this point onwards.

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 · May 8, 2021

SBAndy said:
Not wishing to go any further as I’m not wanting to be embroiled in all this. Suffice to say, I think you and he should just not bother from this point onwards.

That's fine, but I'm not sure why you even posted what you did if you had no intention to get involved. I've offered a truce which got met with being called a c**t about three of four times. I've said I'm happy to leave it as long as he also agrees to stop taking swipes at me on other threads, which was then met with 'fuck off'. Last time I checked, pointing out that some people are enjoying lockdown and/or are power hungry to tell people off is not a psychological condition. I have generally been pretty sympathetic with people who want to be more cautious than me, but if someone is going to be twisted enough to try and force their narrative on others, only to hide behind a rock and send a barrage of bile abuse (which far outweighs anything I've said on this thread) when confronted, particularly when I've done my best on this forum to try and support posters who have openly admitted their struggles, then sadly my level of patience wears a bit thin.

Philosoraptor · May 9, 2021

Just had my second jab.

Hope everyone keeps well and safe.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 9, 2021

Philosorapter said:
Just had my second jab.

Hope everyone keeps well and safe.

Hoping I can just get one at some point this year, the decision to not give under 40s AZ just puts it back again.

Deleted member 5849 · May 9, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Hoping I can just get one at some point this year, the decision to not give under 40s AZ just puts it back again.

Is it not give, or offer a choice?

Irony is Pfizer has better results it seems, and it'll go to the people who need it less. That could be a good thing however as it'll probably reduce spread more.

Brighton Sky Blue · May 9, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Is it not give, or offer a choice?

Irony is Pfizer has better results it seems, and it'll go to the people who need it less. That could be a good thing however as it'll probably reduce spread more.

At the JCVI briefing on Friday it was very much ‘not give’.

Deleted member 5849 · May 9, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
At the JCVI briefing on Friday it was very much ‘not give’.

Oh.

Guess we'll have plenty to share with poorer countries, then(!)

Brighton Sky Blue · May 9, 2021

Deleted member 5849 said:
Oh.

Guess we'll have plenty to share with poorer countries, then(!)

That’s what a Tory I know said Corbyn would have done

Deleted member 5849 · May 9, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
That’s what a Tory I know said Corbyn would have done

Well it's either that or waste them! Could give them to the EU after all, I guess...

Evo1883 · May 10, 2021

From next Monday you can sit in a pub or go to the cinema

Brighton Sky Blue · May 10, 2021

No fuckin masks in school, just scrap the fuckin box and we’re golden

chiefdave · May 10, 2021

There's a plan to vaccinate all Olympic athletes and staff. Wonder if there's been any talks behind the scenes of doing the same for football. We're not far off the point where they would qualify but as it can knock you out for a few weeks is there an argument to get it done over the close season?

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