The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

PVA

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New DUP leader is a fucking idiot. Worse than Arlene.

Blaming Ireland for Brexit :LOL: And zero criticism of the actual people who negotiated and signed the deal, the UK government.

Can see protests and violence flaring up soon sadly. More sunlit uplands.


 

PVA

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Hahah that's amazing. What a fucking idiot.

I don't understand though, I thought all the Brits out of work because of those pesky foreigners taking their jobs were going to fill these roles?

A bit like Pick for Britain. How's that going? Oh, it got scrapped.

Maybe we can try Pour for Britain, get these roles at Wetherspoons filled.

Always enjoyable to see a Leaver get what they voted for though.
 
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Boosh

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Hahah that's amazing. What a fucking idiot.

I don't understand though, I thought all the Brits out of work because of those pesky foreigners taking their jobs were going to fill these roles?

A bit like Pick for Britain. How's that going? Oh, it got scrapped.

Maybe we can try Pour for Britain, get these roles at Wetherspoons filled.

Always enjoyable to see a Leaver get what they voted for though.
No surprise you’re against immigrants arriving from Europe. You’ve really shown your true colours on here
 

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Bloody remoaner
The flip side to Martin’s call for cheap European labour is better pay/conditions for workers here (UK and those on visas/permits).

Just heard a guy from Unite saying just that and how the hospitality trade made the current shortfall of hospitality staff redundant during pandemic rather than retain them, pay NI and use furlough scheme. now many of those staff have got other jobs that are better paid and/or better conditions

My locals got loads of staff (historically mostly at uni/recently left uni - guessing uni situation might’ve also caused some shortages), pints are probably a premium but you get served quickly and they obviously treat the staff well

Ps always found it hard to understand farmers, Martin etc voting for Brexit when their industries rely on cheap labour.
 
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The flip side to Martin’s call for cheap European labour is better pay/conditions for workers here (UK and those on visas/permits).

Just heard a guy from Unite saying just that and how the hospitality trade made the current shortfall of hospitality staff redundant during pandemic rather than retain them, pay NI and use furlough scheme. now many of those staff have got other jobs that are better paid and/or better conditions

My locals got loads of staff (historically mostly at uni/recently left uni - guessing uni situation might’ve also caused some shortages), pints are probably a premium but you get served quickly and they obviously treat the staff well

Ps always found it hard to understand farmers, Martin etc voting for Brexit when their industries rely on cheap labour.
Remember the British Jobs for British workers is really a socialist slogan
 

chiefdave

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The flip side to Martin’s call for cheap European labour is better pay/conditions for workers here (UK and those on visas/permits).

Just heard a guy from Unite saying just that and how the hospitality trade made the current shortfall of hospitality staff redundant during pandemic rather than retain them, pay NI and use furlough scheme. now many of those staff have got other jobs that are better paid and/or better conditions
Think I've mentioned it before but a client of ours is a chain of luxury hotels (in the £400 and upwards a night bracket). Virtually all their non-management staff are Eastern European and seeing the conditions they work in was certainly an eye opener.

On minimum wage but live on site, in appalling conditions, for which rent is deducted from their pay. They work long hours but in and out as required so for example you can be working 6-8am for breakfast, then 12-2pm for lunch and 5-9pm in the evening. The hotels are in the countryside with no public transport links so they are all basically stuck on site 24/7/365.

A benefit of Brexit should be that the pay and conditions in those type of roles improves, not like its unaffordable. The owner of the company I'm talking about took a £35m dividend last year off profits of £90m but as you say they were very quick to get rid of staff as soon as the pandemic hit to avoid paying out. Not nice reading about record profits and huge dividends while they are getting rid of the staff that have put the work in to achieve that.
 
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Grendel

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Think I've mentioned it before but a client of ours is a chain of luxury hotels (in the £400 and upwards a night bracket). Virtually all their non-management staff are Eastern European and seeing the conditions they work in was certainly an eye opener.

On minimum wage but live on site, in appalling conditions, for which rent is deducted from their pay. They work long hours but in and out as required so for example you can be working 6-8am for breakfast, then 12-2pm for lunch and 5-9pm in the evening. The hotels are in the countryside with no public transport links so they are all basically stuck on site 24/7/365.

A benefit of Brexit should be that the pay and conditions in those type of roles improves, not like its unaffordable. The owner of the company I'm talking about took a £35m dividend last year off profits of £90m but as you say they were very quick to get rid of staff as soon as the pandemic hit to avoid paying out. Not nice reading about record profits and huge dividends while they are getting rid of the staff that have put the work in to achieve that.
They should just employ a few people on the apprentice scheme
 
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chiefdave

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They should just employ a few people on the apprentice scheme
They're way ahead of you there. Half the marketing department has been replaced with apprentices since the pandemic began. Bit of a tricky one for them as, to put it politely, they only employ a certain demographic of people which doesn't alway match up with the pool of candidates on apprenticeship schemes.

They can't get away with it for the on-site roles as they're zero hours contracts.
 
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shmmeee

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Kind of changed his mind.
More wealsely words really. The headline does imply he’s facing shortages at first glance but that’s not what it says and he doesn’t deny he supports more EU immigration as his preferred immigration system would benefit people closer to the U.K.
 

clint van damme

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I'll give Martin one thing, I didn't think he could be any more of a wanker but he's proved me wrong
 

PVA

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No surprise you’re against immigrants arriving from Europe. You’ve really shown your true colours on here
You fucking idiot 😂 How on earth did you deduce I am against immigrants from that post? The post literally says we are fucked without immigrants.

I'm 100% in favour of freedom of movement from Europe.

I have said as much on here before, numerous times. I can post proof if you really wish.

Your hero Grendel is totally against it though so how do you square that one? Which side will you pick?
 
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Evo1883

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Look forward to seeing all your names on there.
No disrespect but that's unbelievable , what a fucking wet lettuce , mind you just read her bio, says alot about her ...definitely owns a cat

My god they are also donating money too
 
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No disrespect but that's unbelievable , what a fucking wet lettuce , mind you just read her bio, says alot about her ...definitely owns a cat

My god they are also donating money too
Steady on now... I own a cat

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COV

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We knew what we voted for!


i also saw this stuff about EU red tape from the evil Germans and despicable French

nobody seems to be wondering why no countries within the EU have to suffer this red tape, and nobody seems to realise that nothing in the rules have changed, it’s us that’s changed- we were in, now we’re out. We voted for this, it was ”what the nation wanted”

but ‘patriots’ all over lap it up so I guess it sells papers at least

Now I’m off to buy a cat 🐱
 
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PVA

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nobody seems to be wondering why no countries within the EU have to suffer this red tape, and nobody seems to realise that nothing in the rules have changed, it’s us that’s changed- we were in, now we’re out. We voted for this, it was ”what the nation wanted”

but ‘patriots’ all over lap it up so I guess it sells papers at least
Yes it is funny how it's all the EUs fault and nothing to do with voting for it.

And I do wonder whether these Express 'journalists' are total loons who actually believe what they write or if they sit around pissing themselves that people lap this shit up