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Walsgrave said:
Well it's true. Excel can achieve most of the more advanced things required for business, albeit less efficiently than other programmes. It's looked down upon because 'everyone can do it', or at least most Office workers can. Only when we speak of AI and Machine Learning (which this isn't) are other things particularly relevant. Granted, SQL is a better option for large datasets than Excel and not that much more advanced.
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Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.
 
shmmeee said:
Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.
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Yet another example of privatising something where the capability isn't there in the private sector. NHS Digital has got all the tools needed for test and trace yet Cock and has set up a shadow system. The bloke, his advisors and senior civil servants should all be getting the fucking boot.
 
shmmeee said:
Fine.

Excel isn’t coding. It’s a spreadsheet package. SQL is a database query and definition language, also not Turing complete (and was invented in 1974 a full 14 years before The first Excel released). VB is Microsoft Office’s scripting language, used in conjunction with Excel. Python is a fully formed programming language but can hardly be described as up and coming as it was released almost 30 years ago.

The problem was using a spreadsheet package to do the job of a database, nothing to do with coding or languages. Even then CSV would’ve been perfectly fine for a flat file DB, had they not used Excel which has size limitations and is well known for destroying your data. And let’s not get started on the GDPR implications of storing private info in an Excel doc.

Also AI and ML are the same thing, and are data processing tools (more accurately optimisation models), again nothing to do with Excel or data structures in general.
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Ok, cool story. I forgot that this a General Chat forum where people can define the semantics rather loosely, rather than a developer community.
 
Number of hospital admissions is increasing day on day, England 400% in a month. God knows what things will look like by Christmas.
 
skybluetony176 said:
Yeah but don’t forget to go to the cinema. Said Bo Jo the clown.
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Can't blame him for trying to get the economy open again, in lock down everyone was complaining and no wet eout if full lock down your still complaining its honestly a lose lose situation.
 
Kieranp96 said:
And that's Sundays numbers unless they're still catching up from. The error.
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Not seen any reasoning behind it just the raw number. Let's hope it is still data correction.
 
Kieranp96 said:
Can't blame him for trying to get the economy open again, in lock down everyone was complaining and no wet eout if full lock down your still complaining its honestly a lose lose situation.
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To a degree. The mixed messaging helps precisely nobody though - doesn't help public health, doesn't help the economy.
 
Kieranp96 said:
Can't blame him for trying to get the economy open again, in lock down everyone was complaining and no wet eout if full lock down your still complaining its honestly a lose lose situation.
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All he had to do was set up a competent track and trace system, so when he did unlock the economy it wouldn’t go to shit again.

People complain because their safety and livelihood is at risk, Boris and his cronies are safe as houses.
 
David O'Day said:
Not seen any reasoning behind it just the raw number. Let's hope it is still data correction.
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If not a data correction we are ar eprobsly ahead of spain now and just behind Italy, in putting it down to the months going into to autumn, cases are rising sharply around the globe.
 
Ian1779 said:
All he had to do was set up a competent track and trace system, so when he did unlock the economy it wouldn’t go to shit again.

People complain because their safety and livelihood is at risk, Boris and his cronies are safe as houses.
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Feel free to look at Italian #s and Dutch #s both climbing rapidly both have track and trace system in place. Track and trace helps nobody when most of our cases well I would say 70% have been mild so virus is spreading freely before we even caught on.
 
Ian1779 said:
All he had to do was set up a competent track and trace system, so when he did unlock the economy it wouldn’t go to shit again.

People complain because their safety and livelihood is at risk, Boris and his cronies are safe as houses.
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The same Boris that was admitted to icu because of covid?
 
Deleted member 5849 said:
To a degree. The mixed messaging helps precisely nobody though - doesn't help public health, doesn't help the economy.
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The mixed messages are shit but I think it's mainly because the virus is something nobody has experienced before i mean we haven't had a pandemic this bad since what 1918? Governments around the world will learn from this and put in mesaurments to stop it happening again.
 
Kieranp96 said:
Feel free to look at Italian #s and Dutch #s both climbing rapidly both have track and trace system in place. Track and trace helps nobody when most of our cases well I would say 70% have been mild so virus is spreading freely before we even caught on.
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italy was 2,5k yesterday
 
26 confirmed cases among Warwick staff and students so far with 10 being off campus, not as many as I was expecting considering they've just had welcome week
 
fernandopartridge said:
Yet another example of privatising something where the capability isn't there in the private sector. NHS Digital has got all the tools needed for test and trace yet Cock and has set up a shadow system. The bloke, his advisors and senior civil servants should all be getting the fucking boot.
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There are two benefits to being a civil servant. One is that it still retains defined benefits pension (though you have to be in a decent grade and to have got the years in to allow to live a life close to the style in which you are accustomed). The other benefit is that unless wilful or unlawful, it's hard to be sacked even for gross negligence.

The downside, apart from pay, is that it's built of a very hierarchical structure that is scaled through adopting the right behaviours, rather than being a meritocracy built upon the ability to deliver.
 
Kieranp96 said:
Can't blame him for trying to get the economy open again, in lock down everyone was complaining and no wet eout if full lock down your still complaining its honestly a lose lose situation.
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Yeah but that’s today’s message. Tomorrow it will be don’t go to the cinema. As has been the pattern all the way through.
 
Walsgrave said:
Ok, cool story. I forgot that this a General Chat forum where people can define the semantics rather loosely, rather than a developer community.
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It’s just that you tried to talk about something you didn’t really know anything about and got called out on it by someone who does...it’s okay it happens
 
fernandopartridge said:
What is it that's actually going to nip the rate of increase in the bud this time?
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looks like at some stage will need may need a short sharp lockdown but we could see what happens once it slows down in the uni student population as the PHE map shows they are really, really driving the totals
 
robbiekeane said:
It’s just that you tried to talk about something you didn’t really know anything about and got called out on it by someone who does...it’s okay it happens
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Have a brownie point (Y) Life isn't that serious. Man's just singing praises for the much maligned Excel and we have some next wannabe barristers and poet laureates jumping in trying to scrutinise my words😅
 
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Kieranp96 said:
Feel free to look at Italian #s and Dutch #s both climbing rapidly both have track and trace system in place. Track and trace helps nobody when most of our cases well I would say 70% have been mild so virus is spreading freely before we even caught on.
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He spunked billions on handing track and trace to one of his cronies who was previously responsible for the biggest data breach in UK history. It's indefensible
 
ajsccfc said:
26 confirmed cases among Warwick staff and students so far with 10 being off campus, not as many as I was expecting considering they've just had welcome week
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13 at Cov.

12 students and 1 staff. 6 of them off campus.

I'm also surprised it is this low considering this is the third week of teaching. And there's been the odd party or two.
 
Deaths and hospital admissions still nowhere near March/April even though cases spiking massively.

France the same also and its been 6 weeks since it kicked off again there. 4 or 5 here.

Personally dont see why we need this 'short sharp' lockdown if this remains the same another week or so
 

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LastGarrison said:
13 at Cov.

12 students and 1 staff. 6 of them off campus.

I'm also surprised it is this low considering this is the third week of teaching. And there's been the odd party or two.
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I would guess there's been a high asymptomatic rate
 
Saddlebrains said:
Deaths and hospital admissions still nowhere near March/April even though cases spiking massively.

France the same also and its been 6 weeks since it kicked off again there. 4 or 5 here.

Personally dont see why we need this 'short sharp' lockdown if this remains the same another week or so
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It's because March / April was pretty catastrophic and just being not as bad as that as still terrible tbh.
 
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