A Feast of Consequences - The Climate Change Disaster

[Ccfcisparks]

Conditions allow arsonists & people behaving stupidly to create fires on an epic scale.
Fires don't just start without human interaction.

People in hot weather are more likely to smoke too, and discarded cigarettes can light fires

 

[Captain Dart]

From last October to May the weather was appalling. Since its been very good. Next summer it will probably be back to dull wet average temp weekends.

Yep a lot of rain for which the water companies haven't got adequate storage.
Indeed they've even been selling old resevoir sites to increase profits and pay them to shareholders.

As it's an El Nino this year as it was in 1976 the Autumn is likely to be mild, wet and unsettled.
In the aftermath of the El Nino's in 2015 and 2023 there was quite extensive flooding late in the year.

We'll see what actually happens but similar weather events are likely.

 

[Captain Dart]

Conditions allow arsonists & people behaving stupidly to create fires on an epic scale.
Fires don't just start without human interaction.

Except from lightning strikes but I don't think we've had much lightning of late.

 

[Grendel]

Conditions allow arsonists & people behaving stupidly to create fires on an epic scale.
Fires don't just start without human interaction.

which is the classic response but admits the climate is changing

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Even the BBC said the other day that that coral in the great barrier reef had replenished significantly due to on going monsoon conditions.

They are citing the same report that Dartman decided was interesting after months of evading the topic. That report also states:

• Impacts from the 2024 coral bleaching event revealed that intense heat stress >10-degree heating weeks (DHWs) in the Southern GBR increased the prevalence of severe bleaching and coral mortality in deeper reef habitats across most coral taxa groups.
• The Great Barrier Reef remains under pressure from climate-driven disturbances, tropical cyclones and COTS outbreaks. Although coral cover remained stable in 2026 and continues to be higher than on many coral reefs globally, maintaining healthy coral populations will depend on limiting future warming and preserving the capacity of reefs to recover between disturbance events.

This is of course aside from the fact that you're both arguing backwards from the conclusion that climate change isn't caused by humans and isn't anything to be worried about.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

which is the classic response but admits the climate is changing

Let's get back to City.
I'm on the clown page.

 

[Grendel]

You're a conspiracist, it's a waste of time going through the evidence on this and other aspects of human-driven climate change.

I guess the scepticism does come from the false predictions - the Kerry doom mongering, the ozone layer fear and the BSE crises. A lot of projections have created this

 

[Skybluekyle]

I guess the scepticism does come from the false predictions - the Kerry doom mongering, the ozone layer fear and the BSE crises. A lot of projections have created this

In fairness, on the subject of the ozone layer, I think this was a relative success story in reversing (albeit very slowly) human-made environmental damage and what can be achieved through consensus-driven globally coordinated policy.

 

[Hybridtheory]

which is the classic response but admits the climate is changing

I agree with the Alan weisman theory that basically the world doesn't care what we do as it'll just re generate and get shot of us when she's ready.

Nominative determinism indeed

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Since we’re all fans of graphs

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Since we’re all fans of graphs

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You can’t reason with stupidity bsb
Had such a sad conversation with a friend recently
They were existentially worried for their granddaughter - I tried to say we can only do what we can do but she was pretty distraught

 

[LarryGrayson]

There are two truths as far as I can see.

Climate change is happening. It doesn't really matter if we caused it or not, it's happening.

There are things we can do to help slow / reverse that change, and it will make people's lives better long term if we do them.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

I hope the climate at Arsenal is generally damp on Friday with a ray of sunshine illuminating from the South East.

 

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[ccfc1292]

There are two truths as far as I can see.

Climate change is happening. It doesn't really matter if we caused it or not, it's happening.

There are things we can do to help slow / reverse that change, and it will make people's lives better long term if we do them.

Surely that 2nd point counters your 1st point?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Surely that 2nd point counters your 1st point?

Look at the data and explain to me how you don't think humans have something to do with the observed changes.

 

[ccfc1292]

Look at the data and explain to me how you don't think humans have something to do with the observed changes.

"It doesn't really matter if Human's caused it or not" was the point I was referring to. Suggests that, it may not be down to human action, but humans must take action to stop it.

Before we go down this rabbit hole, I do believe the climate is changing btw.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

"It doesn't really matter if Human's caused it or not" was the point I was referring to. Suggests that, it may not be down to human action, but humans must take action to stop it.

Before we go down this rabbit hole, I do believe the climate is changing btw.

I think LG was trying to be diplomatic, the evidence overwhelmingly supports that human activity is responsible for the changes we've seen.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

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[LarryGrayson]

It's true that water companies don't invest (a consequence of privatisation) but also there ground is rock hard so the water just runs off it, so of course heavy rain will have a consequence!

 

[LarryGrayson]

El Niño set to be 'strongest in living memory', says Met Office

Scientists say the growing El Niño weather pattern is an "unprecedented event" and means 2027 is likely to be the world's hottest year on record.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Marty]

El Niño set to be 'strongest in living memory', says Met Office

Scientists say the growing El Niño weather pattern is an "unprecedented event" and means 2027 is likely to be the world's hottest year on record.

www.bbc.co.uk

There's too many people on the planet, depopulation is the only solution.

 

[Captain Dart]

El Niño set to be 'strongest in living memory', says Met Office

Scientists say the growing El Niño weather pattern is an "unprecedented event" and means 2027 is likely to be the world's hottest year on record.

www.bbc.co.uk

Hence it will be a nice wet autumn id a little windy. The ground is already softening except where driveways have been paved.

 

[LarryGrayson]

There's too many people on the planet, depopulation is the only solution.

To a degree, you're probably right whether in jest or not! Would need a whole new world order where we looked after the old people until it rebalanced...

 

[Marty]

To a degree, you're probably right whether in jest or not! Would need a whole new world order where we looked after the old people until it rebalanced...

I am right, we all know it, just have to decide who's worth keeping around. Africa has struggled to evolve past a mud hut, gone. India can't understand the concept of a bin, gone. Argentina, won't shut up about the Falklands, gone.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

I am right, we all know it, just have to decide who's worth keeping around. Africa has struggled to evolve past a mud hut, gone. India can't understand the concept of a bin, gone. Argentina, won't shut up about the Falklands, gone.

Don't apply for that job with the BBC Mr Marty.

 

[mmttww]

I am right, we all know it, just have to decide who's worth keeping around. Africa has struggled to evolve past a mud hut, gone. India can't understand the concept of a bin, gone. Argentina, won't shut up about the Falklands, gone.

People around the world like the Scots, Welsh and Irish more than us, all three gone. Ukraine can't beat Russia with everyone's help after four years or whatever, gone. Dairy Milk isn't as good since Kraft bought it so America, gone.

 

[LarryGrayson]

I am right, we all know it, just have to decide who's worth keeping around. Africa has struggled to evolve past a mud hut, gone. India can't understand the concept of a bin, gone. Argentina, won't shut up about the Falklands, gone.

Have you considered a job as Trump's foreign advisor?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Indeed they don't invest enough and maybe if we ran it as a public good rather than privatised that might improve a bit.

And everyone knows that after sustained periods of dry if you get large amounts of rain in a short period of time it will just run off the surface instead of being absorbed. And that's without considering the amount of areas we've built up and covered with hard landscaping and built in areas known to be prone to flooding.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Some of the usual suspects will see no cause for concern I’m sure.

El Niño 'supersized' as countries race to prepare for extreme weather, UN warns

The WMO has warned that the natural weather phenomenon could bring disruption to global economies.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Some of the usual suspects will see no cause for concern I’m sure.

El Niño 'supersized' as countries race to prepare for extreme weather, UN warns

The WMO has warned that the natural weather phenomenon could bring disruption to global economies.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pretty sure we’ve defunded wmo as a woke pro Palestinian organisation

 

[wingy]

Pretty sure we’ve defunded wmo as a woke pro Palestinian organisation

Just be cover for all the odd shenanigans going on currently,a bit like when we had Brexit, plausible deniability.