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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,261
Ring Of Steel said:
calling him out on which part? I was making a conscious effort not to get sucked in, I honestly and genuinely did not take in all the details- what did he say
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Call me out because a racist was caught out being a racist.

Tom, coventarian and the lurked are peas in a pod.

It's also brilliant how I am play him like a puppet.


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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,262
Otis said:
Oh, I thought you had blocked each other.
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Nope, I don't block, happy to hear from all.

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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,263
David O'Day said:
Call me out because a racist was caught out being a racist.

Tom, coventarian and the lurked are peas in a pod.

It's also brilliant how I am play him like a puppet.


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All your doing is making yourself look a c**t to the whole forum and you don't like me as I highlight that.

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,264
Otis said:
Oh, I thought you had blocked each other.
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In the earlier post of his you quoted he clearly says he has blocked me.

Racist as well as liar.

Toodles tom.



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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,265
PVA said:
Excellent article here, the gist of which is basically 'why can't we hold the government to account, just because we're in a crisis?'

A common response from Johnson fans to any criticism is that he's doing his best in difficult times, or now is not the time for criticism. Surely it's exactly the time?

Anyway I think it's a good article and would be keen to hear what the likes of Dom think of it

Mark Steel: At this point, we might as well use a lottery draw for updates on coronavirus figures
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Wait for it...
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,266
Sorry about that folks.

New me equals no arguing with cunts or racists.

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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,267
David O'Day said:
In the earlier post of his you quoted he clearly says he has blocked me.

Racist as well as liar.

Toodles tom.



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I meant you blocked me as you were backed into a corner you cretin.

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,268
David O'Day said:
Call me out because a racist was caught out being a racist.

Tom, coventarian and the lurked are peas in a pod.

It's also brilliant how I am play him like a puppet.


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what did he say that makes him a racist? Coventrian and The Lurker, clearly no need for any assistance there
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,269
skybluetony176 said:
Wait for it...
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I'm still trying to work out how dom can call this point scoring

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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,270
TomRad85 said:
All your doing is making yourself look a c**t to the whole forum and you don't like me as I highlight that.

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I’ve only been awake about 5 minutes, gimme a chance
 
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PVA

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,271
David O'Day said:
I'm still trying to work out how dom can call this point scoring

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The first few lines describe him perfectly: "There seems to be an agreement that now is not the time to criticise. Because it’s alright to object to what someone in charge is doing, when it doesn’t matter. But when it’s vital, that’s when you should let people get on with whatever they fancy."

Any criticism is immediately dismissed as point scoring.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,272
Ring Of Steel said:
what did he say that makes him a racist? Coventrian and The Lurker, clearly no need for any assistance there
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He much like Marty did had double standards for Asian and white politicians.

He did exactly what marty did 1 day earlier.

As I said I'm tried of arguing with cunts and racists so he is blocked

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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,273
Astute said:
Wouldn't call it excellent. Good points raised. But more of a rant than anything.

Saw a graph earlier on which countries locked down when. We were the same time as Germany. They had cases before us. But they were also better prepared. Italy locked down well before anyone else.
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Mark Steel is very whiny but as you say they are good points he’s making.
 

David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,274
Might even put grenners on the list as all he does is have breakdowns these days.

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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,275
David O'Day said:
I'm still trying to work out how dom can call this point scoring

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Apparently you’re not allowed to be critical of a man who defied his own advice and then paid the price for doing so.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,276
David O'Day said:
He much like Marty did had double standards for Asian and white politicians.

He did exactly what marty did 1 day earlier.

As I said I'm tried of arguing with cunts and racists so he is blocked

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Such a horrible piece of work you are.

Not that I should have to explain myself to you or anyone on this forum, I thought it was interesting that a Labour politician made a dumb comment same day Boris made his handshake comment. Some agreed, some didn't, fine.

I then pointed out it would be weird if I hated London for being multicultural as my met my Turkish wife here, but again it seems you have to reveal things about your personal life to hold off the left wing hate mob.

You got completely backed into a corner, took the chickens way out and blocked me then checked in a couple of days later to lie.

As I've said before, 100% the biggest prick on the forum.

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Grendel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,277
David O'Day said:
Might even put grenners on the list as all he does is have breakdowns these days.

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Bit early to start the attention seeking today isn’t it?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,278
Grendel said:
Bit early to start the attention seeking today isn’t it?
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Seems his timing was impeccable.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,279
PVA said:
The first few lines describe him perfectly: "There seems to be an agreement that now is not the time to criticise. Because it’s alright to object to what someone in charge is doing, when it doesn’t matter. But when it’s vital, that’s when you should let people get on with whatever they fancy."

Any criticism is immediately dismissed as point scoring.
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It was a unbalanced lazy rant of an article. People knocked Dom for lack of critical thinking, people should ask journalists/those in the media (left and right wing) to show the same.

Of course the government (and their medical advisors/PHE) should be held to account but do it in a constructive, balanced way. This was not

ps I was told as a kid, always check the author of articles as you’ll then know what type of underlying biases/slants they might have - Mark Steel (born 4 July 1960) is an English comedian, broadcaster, newspaper columnist and author.[1] A stand-up comedian known for his left-wing beliefs (he was a long-standing member of the Socialist Workers Party).

That doesn’t necessarily mean ignore it but also that I’m guessing he’s unlikely to ever say anything positive about the government
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,280
TomRad85 said:
Its exactly what it is, The Independent is the left wing version of the Mail.

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Mark Steel is a poor mans Will Self if that’s at all possible
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,281
CCFCSteve said:
It was a unbalanced lazy rant of an article. People knocked Dom for lack of critical thinking, people should ask journalists/those in the media (left and right wing) to show the same.

Of course the government (and their medical advisors/PHE) should be held to account but do it in a constructive, balanced way. This was not

ps I was told as a kid, always check the author of articles as you’ll then know what type of underlying biases/slants they might have - Mark Steel (born 4 July 1960) is an English comedian, broadcaster, newspaper columnist and author.[1] A stand-up comedian known for his left-wing beliefs (he was a long-standing member of the Socialist Workers Party).

That doesn’t necessarily mean ignore it but also that I’m guessing he’s unlikely to ever say anything positive about the government
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As always the country is completely divided. When you look at the last 5 years in the U.K. the biggest thing that has changed is that the country is split, divided, fractured and it will take a long time to fix that- people hate each other depending on whether they’re pro/anti brexit, whether they’re pro/anti “libertarian”- could go on but the whole country is broken. Possibly/ probably stems from the dark forces at work in the background as opposed to anything the politicians did themselves, but the entire ability to critically judge has gone out the window because the only question people care about is “what side is he on?”
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,282
Ring Of Steel said:
As always the country is completely divided. When you look at the last 5 years in the U.K. the biggest thing that has changed is that the country is split, divided, fractured and it will take a long time to fix that- people hate each other depending on whether they’re pro/anti brexit, whether they’re pro/anti “libertarian”- could go on but the whole country is broken. Possibly/ probably stems from the dark forces at work in the background as opposed to anything the politicians did themselves, but the entire ability to critically judge has gone out the window because the only question people care about is “what side is he on?”
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To be fair the way he wrote the article I knew without even looking him up that he was likely to have a slant to his views (I’d never heard of him before)

The best writers/presenters are usually the ones where you’re not quite sure what their personal beliefs are (very difficult i appreciate)
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,283
Grendel said:
Bit early to start the attention seeking today isn’t it?
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Yep he's on there as well now.

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,284
skybluetony176 said:
Seems his timing was impeccable.
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Exactly, I called and along he came.

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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,285
skybluetony176 said:
Wait for it...
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Getting the full house here

Socialist. Tick
Lefty rag. Tick
Unbalanced. Tick
Poor man’s Will Self. Tick (although it pains me to admit that’s a fair point)

What I really want to know is which Newspaper tried to pass off a clap for the NHS photo as a clap for Boris photo.

Not sure anyone can say it’s unbalanced either without ignoring the point he makes about the Sun calling NHS staff angels having not that long ago called for junior doctors to be sacked for having the audacity to ask for a pay rise. You want to talk unbalanced look at the behaviour of the Sun newspaper.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,286
Grendel said:
Bit early to start the attention seeking today isn’t it?
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You've made his list! Perhaps a blessing in disguise.

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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,287
Anyway Mark Steel's article was good and god knows what his politics have to do with anything.

It does seem you are not allowed to criticise the government when when they make mistakes.

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Grendel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,288
TomRad85 said:
You've made his list! Perhaps a blessing in disguise.

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He hasn’t ignored anyone he’s just playing a game
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,289
Tom still obsessing over me I'm told



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skybluetony176

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,290
Grendel said:
He hasn’t ignored anyone he’s just playing a game
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To be fair you would know. It’s your game.
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,291
CCFCSteve said:
To be fair the way he wrote the article I knew without even looking him up that he was likely to have a slant to his views (I’d never heard of him before)

The best writers/presenters are usually the ones where you’re not quite sure what their personal beliefs are (very difficult i appreciate)
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twitter is similar- nobody seems capable of a balanced view and everyone has an agenda, I would argue that one of the biggest issues facing the U.K. for the next decade is not just the Coronavirus or Brexit, it’s that society is completely broken, nobody trusts anyone, the gap between ‘haves and have nots’ has never been bigger, everyone is angry at one another and there is open hatred all over the place. In a rare foray into politics I would guess that this heaps pressure on Starmer because the need for a coherent, viable opposition has never been greater.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,292
Grenners claiming I haven't blocked anyone but loo his posts not there



Anyway that's enough of them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,293
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Once again trying to point score, I think it’s pretty low in all honesty
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Michael Gove said on TV the other day that it's right to question the government throughout the crisis.
It's not point scoring at all. Same as it's right to praise then if they get something right.
Every government in the world is being scrutinised by its citizens
Stop being silly Dom
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,294
David O'Day said:
Grenners claiming I haven't blocked anyone but loo his posts not there

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Anyway that's enough of them.
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But you knew I’d said it - David goes mystic meg on us
 
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clint van damme

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  • Apr 10, 2020
  • #15,295
CCFCSteve said:
It was a unbalanced lazy rant of an article. People knocked Dom for lack of critical thinking, people should ask journalists/those in the media (left and right wing) to show the same.

Of course the government (and their medical advisors/PHE) should be held to account but do it in a constructive, balanced way. This was not

ps I was told as a kid, always check the author of articles as you’ll then know what type of underlying biases/slants they might have - Mark Steel (born 4 July 1960) is an English comedian, broadcaster, newspaper columnist and author.[1] A stand-up comedian known for his left-wing beliefs (he was a long-standing member of the Socialist Workers Party).

That doesn’t necessarily mean ignore it but also that I’m guessing he’s unlikely to ever say anything positive about the government
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You do realise he's a comedian who's columns are all a sarcastic piss take whatever the subject matter?
He's not a political journalist though he hits the spot more often than many of them.
 
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