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hill83

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,316
My ex’s mate got pinged because the next door neighbour, who she didn’t even see, got Covid. Pinged through the wall.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,317
hill83 said:
Yeah exactly, “In a bit then dickhead”
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I was running around the care home without a jab or a mask and the manager was going ‘oi no professionals’

I said ‘I’m not a professional’

He said ‘well you should be-I’m also unvaccinated and you’d be the top super spreader in the country’
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,318
hill83 said:
My ex’s mate got pinged because the next door neighbour, who she didn’t even see, got Covid. Pinged through the wall.
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Think that's called a Glory Hole?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,319
Sky Blue Pete said:
The risk has to be so small as to say fuck it I’m out and proud
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,320
Sky Blue Pete said:
Yeah and someone that had it and had been double jabbed. The risk has to be so small as to say fuck it I’m out and proud
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Being vaccinated makes you gay?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,321
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Being vaccinated makes you gay?
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That’s on shmmee’s triangle of conspiracy notes. Think he swapped it for Christianity but he’s not confirmed it was him that removed that from the list yet
 

hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,322
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Being vaccinated makes you gay?
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At the very least it shows you can take 2 pricks
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,323
I got told to delete the app, by my employer, back when we were at the dizzy heights of cases/deaths, in case I got told to isolate. Because it would’ve meant they’d have had another driver less. I was pretty pissed off, still sort of am.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,324
Whitty's comments last night don't sound like someone who agrees with the open everything up and see what happens strategy the government is taking.

Talked about 'scary numbers' of hospitalisations in the near future and hospitals being overwhelmed with covid patients. Said we need to 'take things incredibly slowly' which seems the opposite of what we're doing. Also said we're creating conditions where the virus could mutate into a vaccine resistant variant meaning we'd end up back in complete lockdown.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,325
Marty said:
My mum is an immigrant.
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So was Priti Patels
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,326
chiefdave said:
Whitty's comments last night don't sound like someone who agrees with the open everything up and see what happens strategy the government is taking.

Talked about 'scary numbers' of hospitalisations in the near future and hospitals being overwhelmed with covid patients. Said we need to 'take things incredibly slowly' which seems the opposite of what we're doing. Also said we're creating conditions where the virus could mutate into a vaccine resistant variant meaning we'd end up back in complete lockdown.
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I saw the Dutch had to reverse course after just 2 weeks. Maybe Johnson is ‘doing a Rashford’ and I obviously don’t mean feeding the poor
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,327
chiefdave said:
Whitty's comments last night don't sound like someone who agrees with the open everything up and see what happens strategy the government is taking.

Talked about 'scary numbers' of hospitalisations in the near future and hospitals being overwhelmed with covid patients. Said we need to 'take things incredibly slowly' which seems the opposite of what we're doing. Also said we're creating conditions where the virus could mutate into a vaccine resistant variant meaning we'd end up back in complete lockdown.
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What does he know chief. Bloody lockdown lover him you and me I mean. He’s probably making money out of all this and never been happier!!! Working at home and in public and volunteering on wards on his day off.
Like I’ve said before. He’s the expert let’s listen. He is cautious though so I’m happy it’s a reasonable argument to say yes but. However I need my leaders to say yes but the risk is low or yes but we will maintain these steps or yes but we’ve changed isolating rules as the risk is low or the number of days is less or yes but mutations won’t be bad there are millions and only 2 or 3 have made things worse

But no we gave fuckin freedom day crap spouted and then wow didn’t think we’d have loads isolating how stupid. Well no it’s stupid you not thinking about it

anyway as I said to Nick I’m out and proud
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,328
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I saw the Dutch had to reverse course after just 2 weeks. Maybe Johnson is ‘doing a Rashford’ and I obviously don’t mean feeding the poor
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Taking a shit penalty trying to be clever?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,329
Nick said:
Taking a shit penalty trying to be clever?
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He’s already got Sajid Javid to take the last kick
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,330
Tommo1993 said:
I got told to delete the app, by my employer, back when we were at the dizzy heights of cases/deaths, in case I got told to isolate. Because it would’ve meant they’d have had another driver less. I was pretty pissed off, still sort of am.
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The pandemic has certainly shone some light on what workforces really think about their employees and how they treat them. Both good and bad.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,331
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I thought it was?
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Did you not read my long winded post ?!

Ps as you say schools/work places are running their own rules though. If I was gov/nhs I’d come out now and make it clear the apps advisory and suggest people take lateral flows if pinged, which is what they are going to do anyway from 16 Aug, at least for double jabbed. Surely it’s a greater risk everyone deleting app and not even knowing if they’ve been in the vicinity of someone with Covid ?! As I say gov/NHS intentional ambiguity to get more people to isolate thinking it mandatory could/will end up making things worse !
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,332
CCFCSteve said:
Did you not read my long winded post ?!

Ps as you say schools/work places are running their own rules though. If I was gov/nhs I’d come out now and make it clear the apps advisory and suggest people take lateral flows if pinged, which is what they are going to do anyway from 16 Aug, at least for double jabbed. Surely it’s a greater risk everyone deleting app and not even knowing if they’ve been in the vicinity of someone with Covid ?! As I say gov/NHS intentional ambiguity to get more people to isolate thinking it mandatory could/will end up making things worse !
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Yep
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,333
Sky Blue Pete said:
What does he know chief. Bloody lockdown lover him you and me I mean. He’s probably making money out of all this and never been happier!!! Working at home and in public and volunteering on wards on his day off.
Like I’ve said before. He’s the expert let’s listen. He is cautious though so I’m happy it’s a reasonable argument to say yes but. However I need my leaders to say yes but the risk is low or yes but we will maintain these steps or yes but we’ve changed isolating rules as the risk is low or the number of days is less or yes but mutations won’t be bad there are millions and only 2 or 3 have made things worse

But no we gave fuckin freedom day crap spouted and then wow didn’t think we’d have loads isolating how stupid. Well no it’s stupid you not thinking about it

anyway as I said to Nick I’m out and proud
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He’s an expert in science but has zero responsibility to consider other impacts on the 99% of the population who should not now suffer from the disease - governments have other considerations than just his standpoint
 

Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,334
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The pandemic has certainly shone some light on what workforces really think about their employees and how they treat them. Both good and bad.
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Certainly. You have to sign countless Health & Safety documents that back them up in accidents, injuries or whatever, so they can just put you at fault.

Different the other way around though. Their tact in a global pandemic has been shocking.
 
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Malaka

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,335
As all adults would have had the opportunity to be double vaccinated by 'freedom day' it appears that the government are saying if you catch it you must suffer the consequences. Personally, I think we have come far and need to kick the shit out of covid before letting everyone loose. Kids are now the super spreaders, but do not appear to come to much harm if they catch it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,336
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
The pandemic has certainly shone some light on what workforces really think about their employees and how they treat them. Both good and bad.
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It depends on the workplace.

Small businesses it's fairly understandable. If I start isolating for 10 days every couple of months I don't get paid. If I do that who does my work while I'm off?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,337
Nick said:
Like I said, in reality.

I can categorically tell you that really doesn't happen if people don't have the app.

If I play football tonight with a few of my mates who are self employed and next week it turns out I have COVID. Do you think I'm going to sit and list them all and make them lose 10 days pay? Yeah I'd tell them to go and get a test and make their own minds up.

As I said there's 2 different worlds. Some people are sat at home, maybe been on furlough or WFH for the past couple of years and will analyze graphs and worry about infection rates.

Others have had to work all the way through and business as usual as much as possible, else they don't eat.
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Think those last two paragraphs are very fair. Though this is why people have been saying people should be paid to isolate.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,338
Malaka said:
As all adults would have had the opportunity to be double vaccinated by 'freedom day' it appears that the government are saying if you catch it you must suffer the consequences.
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All Adults would not have had the opportunity to be double jabbed by freedom day.
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,339
shmmeee said:
Think those last two paragraphs are very fair. Though this is why people have been saying people should be paid to isolate.
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I agree, if I got full pay I'd be more than willing. Who then does my work though?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,340
shmmeee said:
Think those last two paragraphs are very fair. Though this is why people have been saying people should be paid to isolate.
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You can claim £500

COVID-19: guidance and support

Find information on COVID-19, including guidance and support.
www.gov.uk

Appreciate that’s not full pay for most but it should cover a reasonable amount of basic costs for the period
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,341
CCFCSteve said:
You can claim £500

COVID-19: guidance and support

Find information on COVID-19, including guidance and support.
www.gov.uk
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You or the partner you live with must get one of the following benefits:
  • Universal Credit
  • Working Tax Credit
  • Income-based Employment and Support Allowance
  • Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
  • Income Support
  • Housing Benefit
  • Pension Credit
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Only if you receive benefits.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,342
Nick said:
I agree, if I got full pay I'd be more than willing. Who then does my work though?
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Yeah that’s a fair question.

Genuinely not sure what you do mate. I know how lucky I’ve been to have a remote job though.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,343
Nick said:
Only if you receive benefits.
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Sorry, misread
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,344
Grendel said:
He’s an expert in science but has zero responsibility to consider other impacts on the 99% of the population who should not now suffer from the disease - governments have other considerations than just his standpoint
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If you are still banging on about 1% then I pity you. 14% have symptoms for 12 weeks or more
However your main point stands and I agree we need to manage it but gosh we really are risking all our progress
 

Malaka

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,345
Skybluefaz said:
All Adults would not have had the opportunity to be double jabbed by freedom day.
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17th June all adults were offered a vaccine and as I understand it, you no longer have to wait 12 weeks for your second jab, it can be done in three
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,346
Sky Blue Pete said:
If you are still banging on about 1% then I pity you. 14% have symptoms for 12 weeks or more
However your main point stands and I agree we need to manage it but gosh we really are risking all our progress
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No need to pity me - name one country in the world whose locked down for long Covid
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,347
Malaka said:
17th June all adults were offered a vaccine and as I understand it, you no longer have to wait 12 weeks for your second jab, it can be done in three
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7 for pfeizer and 8 for az
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,348
Grendel said:
No need to pity me - name one country in the world whose locked down for long Covid
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Nowhere but we need to recognise its mot just affecting 1% although that would still be 650000 people
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,349
Sky Blue Pete said:
Nowhere but we need to recognise its mot just affecting 1% although that would still be 650000 people
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Shall we stay locked down until they have got rid of it?

Maybe we can recognise the additional risks if people are obese?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 16, 2021
  • #49,350
Nick said:
It depends on the workplace.

Small businesses it's fairly understandable. If I start isolating for 10 days every couple of months I don't get paid. If I do that who does my work while I'm off?
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Yes, I agree. In that circumstance things change a bit and it is difficult to manage. I was more referring to medium to large businesses that have put greed and their own interests before their workforce.

That could be anything from forcing people to go into the office to try and keep a push on productivity, to not following their own rules which were implemented for safety, down to sacking people to cut costs, for which covid gets the blame even if it doesn't really have an effect on the business itself, or their future.

On the flip side, some companies have obviously been great and allowed their staff to be more flexible with how they work (which as a side point will make morale higher providing they aren't isolated too long).
 
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