Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (22 Viewers)

skybluetony176 · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
I do think they're engineering food storages to be able to bring in GMO crops and lab grown meats.

So long as they don’t bring in Johnny Foreigner so the food rotting in the ground remains in the ground. Which is exactly why that’s bollocks. We have food rotting in the ground, If we had GMO crops they’d still be rotting in the ground. Food shortages could be cured tomorrow by simply going plant based. Instead of growing crops to feed animals to eat those animals we can cut out the middleman and just grow crops to feed ourselves, developing countries with food shortages would stop growing animal feed for developed countries and start growing crops to feed their own people. Deforestation could be stopped in it’s tracks and be reversed as the 2 biggest reasons for deforestation are to clear land for growing animal feed and create pasture land. It doesn’t need a fake pandemic to cure food shortages it needs education and a wholesale change of culture and lifestyle choices when it comes to what we eat.

Marty · Jul 16, 2021

shmmeee said:
Hope so.

Bet you can't wait to be sucking on the tit of Bill and Jeff.

Marty · Jul 16, 2021

skybluetony176 said:
So long as they don’t bring in Johnny Foreigner so the food rotting in the ground remains in the ground. Which is exactly why that’s bollocks. We have food rotting in the ground, If we had GMO crops they’d still be rotting in the ground. Food shortages could be cured tomorrow by simply going plant based. Instead of growing crops to feed animals to eat those animals we can cut out the middleman and just grow crops to feed ourselves, developing countries with food shortages would stop growing animal feed for developed countries and start growing crops to feed their own people. Deforestation could be stopped in it’s tracks and be reversed as the 2 biggest reasons for deforestation are to clear land for growing animal feed and create pasture land. It doesn’t need a fake pandemic to cure food shortages it needs education and a wholesale change of culture and lifestyle choices when it comes to what we eat.

Why are you being racist?

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
Why are you being racist?

Irony meter has just broken

fernandopartridge · Jul 16, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not ashamed to say I deleted the app and so did the missus. We aren’t risking getting pinged and having to miss our own wedding, sorry.

It isn't mandatory to isolate, it's only an indicator

Marty · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Irony meter has just broken

My mum is an immigrant.

shmmeee · Jul 16, 2021

Well, yesterday was my daughters last ever day at Primary school. Got a message to collect her about 11 because someone in the year has tested positive. Floods of tears from all the kids. Many never going to see each other again and barely a chance to say goodbye.

The isolation letter also says you can take a test but if it’s negative you still have to isolate and if it’s positive you have to isolate for an extra ten days. So like hell are we going to get a test.

shmmeee · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
Bet you can't wait to be sucking on the tit of Bill and Jeff.

Just want people to be fed and a planet to exist for my kids mate.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
I know you aren’t but sounds awfully patronising and if I’m honest a little removed from the seriousness of this.

Ive not been furloughed at all but I have worked from home however even in complete lockdown I was volunteering as an nhs responder.
Of course you wouldn’t list the 5 a side lot but would you ask people you lived with????

There’s degrees of risk and close contact is close contact not passing people in the street.

As I say those personally affected with friend or family deaths or serious illness see things differently to those that haven’t

You are making some quite large assumptions with that last point. The state’s delivery of full vaccination in record time to the group suffering 99% of hospitalisations with a booster programme to come is it meeting its commitment to safeguard these people.

Those going to hospital now who chose not to get the protection offered (excluding those who were not allowed to accept one for medical reasons) are frankly lucky to be given treatment.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
My mum is an immigrant.

Great saying the end of apartheid was the worst thing to happen to South Africa is an awful awful thing but fill your boots

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
It isn't mandatory to isolate, it's only an indicator

I thought it was?

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Those going to hospital now who chose not to get the protection offered (excluding those who were not allowed to accept one for medical reasons) are frankly lucky to be given treatment.

That’s basically where I got to months ago. If you are that much of a flat earth thick c**t that you refuse to have the vaccine you can swivel.

Northants Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
worst thing to happen to SA was the ending of apartheid (not my words, btw).

Ok I'll bite. Why was it?

fernandopartridge · Jul 16, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
I thought it was?

Only if you're contacted by Test and Trace. You can't mandate isolation off the back of you voluntarily downloading an app.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
You are making some quite large assumptions with that last point. The state’s delivery of full vaccination in record time to the group suffering 99% of hospitalisations with a booster programme to come is it meeting its commitment to safeguard these people.

Those going to hospital now who chose not to get the protection offered (excluding those who were not allowed to accept one for medical reasons) are frankly lucky to be given treatment.

Yep I am but generalisations are generally true. Luckily we don’t live in a country where freedom of conscience is met with a blanket yes or no and certainly in terms of getting emergency treatment I’m glad I do. I now know people who have been poorly with Covid having been double jabbed. So it’s not just unjabbed people

I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment which is why I’m so cross we are risking that and not being clear about what opening up means. And then when it happens just as Whitty says it would we all shout at him or others being cautious that we want to lockdown forever.

I think we largely agree and I’m so pleased you have no limits on numbers for your wedding and I hope it’s brilliant

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

fernandopartridge said:
Only if you're contacted by Test and Trace. You can't mandate isolation off the back of you voluntarily downloading an app.

I see, our problem in school was getting pinged would make us stay away for the 10 days.

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
I know you aren’t but sounds awfully patronising and if I’m honest a little removed from the seriousness of this.

Ive not been furloughed at all but I have worked from home however even in complete lockdown I was volunteering as an nhs responder.
Of course you wouldn’t list the 5 a side lot but would you ask people you lived with????

There’s degrees of risk and close contact is close contact not passing people in the street.

As I say those personally affected with friend or family deaths or serious illness see things differently to those that haven’t

It isn't removed from anything, it is the reality of it that I am trying to get across.

People aren't sat listing everybody they can think of to Track and Trace. It doesn't happen.

There is a degree of risk about everything though isn't there?

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
It isn't removed from anything, it is the reality of it that I am trying to get across.

People aren't sat listing everybody they can think of to Track and Trace. It doesn't happen.

There is a degree of risk about everything though isn't there?

People are though or nobody would have ever been contacted.

Marty · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Great saying the end of apartheid was the worst thing to happen to South Africa is an awful awful thing but fill your boots

South Africans I work with, of all races have said that. I'll be honest, I dont know but I'll take the words of many people who lived it every day for years.

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

hill83 said:
People are though or nobody would have ever been contacted.

Oh yeah people will be, especially with the app.

Snitches get stitches though.

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
Oh yeah people will be, especially with the app.

Snitches get stitches though.

So stop saying it doesn’t happen then m8

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Yep I am but generalisations are generally true. Luckily we don’t live in a country where freedom of conscience is met with a blanket yes or no and certainly in terms of getting emergency treatment I’m glad I do. I now know people who have been poorly with Covid having been double jabbed. So it’s not just unjabbed people

I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment which is why I’m so cross we are risking that and not being clear about what opening up means. And then when it happens just as Whitty says it would we all shout at him or others being cautious that we want to lockdown forever.

I think we largely agree and I’m so pleased you have no limits on numbers for your wedding and I hope it’s brilliant

We do and I do get that not everyone going to hospital is unvaccinated, but the majority appear to be. If someone is fully vaccinated and still dies of COVID it’s obviously a tragedy for their close ones but the state really cannot prevent death and nor reasonably can we permanently take freedoms away from people for the benefit of those who have already had long and full lives to lead.

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

hill83 said:
So stop saying it doesn’t happen then m8

I am saying it doesn't happen like Pete is indicating, it isn't as simplistic as that.

Brighton Sky Blue · Jul 16, 2021

hill83 said:
That basically where I got to months ago. If you are that much of a flat earth thick c**t that you refuse to have the vaccine you can swivel.

Same with the ‘I’d rather resign from my care home job than get vaccinated’ as some have said. Fine, the residents are probably better off you not being there

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
South Africans I work with, of all races have said that. I'll be honest, I dont know but I'll take the words of many people who lived it every day for years.

Marty said:
of all races

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Same with the ‘I’d rather resign from my care home job than get vaccinated’ as some have said. Fine, the residents are probably better off you not being there

Yeah exactly, “In a bit then dickhead”

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
It isn't removed from anything, it is the reality of it that I am trying to get across.

People aren't sat listing everybody they can think of to Track and Trace. It doesn't happen.

There is a degree of risk about everything though isn't there?

You make your point, as always, very well and I see things slightly differently that’s all
The people I know who’ve been contacted have taken it seriously, not overly so of course a close contact is someone you’ve been close to like a member of the family
And yep completely agree about risk I’ve been battling thinking about this for yonks

I firmly believe we are at the stage of lowest risk but with the numbers of infections it’s crazy to not mandate some things
That’s all I’m saying. Also isolating needs looking at ASAP

hill83 · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
I am saying it doesn't happen like Pete is indicating, it isn't as simplistic as that.

I’m listing you as a close contact if I get pinged.

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
You make your point, as always, very well and I see things slightly differently that’s all
The people I know who’ve been contacted have taken it seriously, not overly so of course a close contact is someone you’ve been close to like a member of the family
And yep completely agree about risk I’ve been battling thinking about this for yonks

I firmly believe we are at the stage of lowest risk but with the numbers of infections it’s crazy to not mandate some things
That’s all I’m saying. Also isolating needs looking at ASAP

To be fair, if people were taking it overly seriously they would have the app installed.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Marty said:
South Africans I work with, of all races have said that. I'll be honest, I dont know but I'll take the words of many people who lived it every day for years.

None I know do and they are mainly white

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

hill83 said:
I’m listing you as a close contact if I get pinged.

Well yeah it is also open to abuse surely?

ps. I gave you a false number.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

hill83 said:
I’m listing you as a close contact if I get pinged.

Imagine Nick. And his address? I don’t know and his surname I don’t know.
Ok so the person is called Nick? Yes that’s all I know

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
To be fair, if people were taking it overly seriously they would have the app installed.

Millions have

Nick · Jul 16, 2021

Sky Blue Pete said:
Millions have

I know, don't get me wrong I am not saying it's a conspiracy and nobody takes it seriously.

It would be interesting to see how many people uninstalled it after the first time they got told to isolate too.

Sky Blue Pete · Jul 16, 2021

Nick said:
I know, don't get me wrong I am not saying it's a conspiracy and nobody takes it seriously.

It would be interesting to see how many people uninstalled it after the first time they got told to isolate too.

Yeah and someone that had it and had been double jabbed. The risk has to be so small as to say fuck it I’m out and proud

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