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chiefdave

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,141
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors
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Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.
www.reuters.com
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,142
chiefdave said:

Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.
www.reuters.com
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What is the obsession with making up things like this? I don’t get what people gain from it
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,143
Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,144
chiefdave said:

Fact Check-The protester arrested at Sarah Everard vigil is not a crisis actress

Social media users have claimed that a woman who was arrested at a vigil for Sarah Everard is a crisis actress. There is no evidence that this is true.
www.reuters.com
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She had a website (which I can't find now but was listing her under their acting agency at the time.

Taken from another article though:

"Stevenson is a university student, who describes herself as “not an activist or protester”. The 28-year old from Southend is also a part-time model and actress."
 
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skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,145
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
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Can actors not catch Covid?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,146
shmmeee said:
Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.
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No one is saying covid is a hoax.

Using actors to make videos that try to paint a picture to encourage people to get a vaccine is not beyond their remit though. Don't you think? I can see why this would have legs.

I said things would be extended by a few weeks and was called a conspiracy theorist. I even said I knew more people that had the virus now and had coincidentally had got the vaccine since. I was also labelled a conspiracy theorist for that. Now both of those things seem to be true and I haven't had one apology.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,147
skybluetony176 said:
Can actors not catch Covid?
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Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,148
Anyone got any idea how long the side effects last? I feel like shit 36 hrs later
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,149
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Who knows, but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors, people have jumped on the bandwagon with this. I guess people can make their own minds up.

Personally have no idea, but thought I would share it on here as it is worth talking about I think.
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What? You mean actors are banned from protests? Someone should have told John Boyega.

Serious question. How many times have you won the Nigerian lottery and are you still expecting the payout?
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,150
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.
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Only if you’re a moron.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,151
COV said:
Anyone got any idea how long the side effects last? I feel like shit 36 hrs later
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From the vaccine? Different for everyone in that case. My wife got knocked out by the first one and basically spent a week in bed. Second one nothing at all. For me felt a little ache the next day until late afternoon then nothing of note, second one spent a weekend in bed.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,152
skybluetony176 said:
From the vaccine? Different for everyone in that case. My wife got knocked out by the first one and basically spent a week in bed. Second one nothing at all. For me felt a little ache the next day until late afternoon then nothing of note, second one spent a weekend in bed.
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Yes vaccine- first one I felt nothing, this time aching all over, sweating like a pig, headache and nausea, it’s bloody horrible
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,153
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Using one for a case study when the public are nervous and distrusting might not be a great idea though right?

Again, I never said he didn't have covid. Just like the Sarah Everard virgil, the person caught up in it was an actor - fact. Wether that has anything to do with why they are there is up to anyone to determine for themselves. I am only sharing what I have read.
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So you wash your hands of expressing any opinion on whether it’s true but feel duty bound to pass it on?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,154
With all the talk of paid crisis actors when did we become QAnon and 4Chan?
 
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hill83

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,155
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I said things would be extended by a few weeks and was called a conspiracy theorist. I even said I knew more people that had the virus now and had coincidentally had got the vaccine since. I was also labelled a conspiracy theorist for that. Now both of those things seem to be true and I haven't had one apology.
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An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are an odd bloke.
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,156
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Using actors to make videos that try to paint a picture to encourage people to get a vaccine is not beyond their remit though. Don't you think? I can see why this would have legs.
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It would be a huge international scandal, likely resulting in the resignation of top executives at ITV and the NHS, and a full independent inquiry. Which, on balance, probably wouldn't be worth it for the sake of a story that gets 280 retweets on the ITV News Twitter account.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,157
COV said:
So you wash your hands of expressing any opinion on whether it’s true but feel duty bound to pass it on?
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Sorry mum.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,158
hill83 said:
An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are a odd bloke.
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So if what I said was true, why is it odd?

Don't go round throwing insults about. There is no need.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,159
shmmeee said:
Right.

Here is why all conspiracy theories are bollocks in a nutshell:

Thousands of people can’t keep a secret. It’s never happened in human history. The end.

No Dave on Twitter hasn’t cracked it wide open. No TruthSeeker420 on YouTube hasn’t found evidence in publicly available media.

No governments haven’t all got together and mind controlled a bunch of scientists and medical professionals to not only lie but keep this lie from everyone they know.

Maybe, just maybe, people with limited critical thinking skills and a penchant for taking half rumours and expanding them into M Night Shayamalan scripts have got the wrong end of the stick.
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Although the American government dismissed all the conspiracies about their antics in Nicaragua as started by crackpot, until they turned out to be true.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,160
skybluetony176 said:
Only if you’re a moron.
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Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,161
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?
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Do you believe it?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,162
COV said:
Do you believe it?
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Why are you pushing me for an opinion so badly?

You definitely are Ring of Steel. Straight out of the same playbook.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,163
COV said:
Yes vaccine- first one I felt nothing, this time aching all over, sweating like a pig, headache and nausea, it’s bloody horrible
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Sounds like what I had with the second one. I had 2 days of it, by the evening of the second day I started feeling better all of a sudden. Rest, paracetamol and ride it out. Hopefully you’ll be feeling better tomorrow.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,164
skybluetony176 said:
Sounds like what I had with the second one. I had 2 days of it, by the evening of the second day I started feeling better all of a sudden. Rest, paracetamol and ride it out. Hopefully you’ll be feeling better tomorrow.
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It’s bloody horrible… don’t like being ill, makes me grumpy

Having said that, this is small beer really, christ only knows what the real deal covid is like, this shit certainly makes me feel like being a bit more careful than I was being
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,165
hill83 said:
An apology for what?
You know more people who have the virus now because it is more transmissible and we are in the process of unlocking. You were suggesting it was weird. It’s not weird. It’s perfectly understandable. No apology needed.

Many people suggested things would or could be extended. No apology needed.

And now bollocks about actors. I’m trying to avoid this place but you are an odd bloke.
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Ultra transmissable virus gets transmitted when restrictions loosened, shocker.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,166
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why the insults? I didn't even say I believed it myself. I just posted a tweet and pointed out the guy in the video is an actor, which is true.

As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?
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Sorry Earlsdon. It’s just Marc Almond getting his stomach pumped after taking a line up of sailors nonsense. I can laugh it off when it’s not serious but when people start believing this childish nonsense and it is serious it boils my piss.
 
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COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,167
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Why are you pushing me for an opinion so badly?

You definitely are Ring of Steel. Straight out of the same playbook.
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I’m not pushing, that’s the first time I asked if you believed it.

If I read something and I don’t believe it I don’t tend to put it up online as if it were real, that’s all.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,168
COV said:
It’s bloody horrible… don’t like being ill, makes me grumpy

Having said that, this is small beer really, christ only knows what the real deal covid is like, this shit certainly makes me feel like being a bit more careful than I was being
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Yeah, my first vaccine had me floored for about three days, second one was basically AOK. Quite happy with that really, as if those are the mild side effects, bring them on in comparison to the real thing!
 
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SBT

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,169
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
As I said, with the public being so nervous at the moment (this thread is a prime example right now), using anything like that which can fuel a fire surely isn't a good idea, is it?
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You mean like suggesting that undercover agents may be trying to scare the population into a mass vaccination campaign?
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,170
SBT said:
You mean like suggesting that undercover agents may be trying to scare the population into a mass vaccination campaign?
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Who said that?

It was the thousands of painful deaths that scared me into having a vaccination, no need for secret agents to be sneaking around
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,171
COV said:
I’m not pushing, that’s the first time I asked if you believed it.

If I read something and I don’t believe it I don’t tend to put it up online as if it were real, that’s all.
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The comments underneath from the moonbats are weird as fuck, granted. But if they have used a case study with an actor then, in my opinion, it is silly at best.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,172
clint van damme said:
Although the American government dismissed all the conspiracies about their antics in Nicaragua as started by crackpot, until they turned out to be true.
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How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:

Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,173
shmmeee said:
How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:
View attachment 20940
Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.
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No mention of Christianity on there shmmee did you remove it?
 
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Philosoraptor

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,174
Can't remember anyone sharing a Tweet by CCC before.

Needs a read.

 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,175
We know it because the whole thing
shmmeee said:
How do we know this Clint?

Because someone couldn’t keep a secret.

Also that’s not thousands of people.

Have a look at this:
View attachment 20940
Basically the higher you go the more people needed to keep the secret. That’s not a coincidence. CIA ops and Britneys Dad are one thing. The entire worlds medical staff are another.
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We know it because a plane crashed and the whole thing started to unravel.
Now I'm not for one minute advocating for the nonsense on YouTube or Facebook but there are plenty of examples of the official narrative being manipulated
 
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