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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,106
CCFCSteve said:
Thats quick. Which jab ?
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Pfizer
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,107
Spain: lockdown was/is unconstitutional, anyone who has been fined can claim their money back

Covid: Spain's top court rules lockdown unconstitutional

People fined for breaking lockdown rules will now be able to reclaim their money, the top court says.
www.bbc.com
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,108
COV said:
Spain: lockdown was/is unconstitutional, anyone who has been fined can claim their money back

Covid: Spain's top court rules lockdown unconstitutional

People fined for breaking lockdown rules will now be able to reclaim their money, the top court says.
www.bbc.com
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Oh well maybe public health protection is unconstitutional too
 
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wingy

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,109
COV said:
Spain: lockdown was/is unconstitutional, anyone who has been fined can claim their money back

Covid: Spain's top court rules lockdown unconstitutional

People fined for breaking lockdown rules will now be able to reclaim their money, the top court says.
www.bbc.com
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Case brought by the Vox party and only won by majority of 1 out of eleven votes ,on a technicality really.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,110
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pfizer
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Yeah, makes sense. Think the AZs they wanted the longer gap between doses as it improves efficiency. Pfizer and Moderna don’t think extended gap is as beneficial so may as well just get it done

Nice one anyway
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,111
The euros final has whacked transmission up hugely.

I think we'll see huge amounts of cases now until Sunday.

Pretty certain we'll then see a decrease even with the reopening on July 19th.

Surely soon the virus is going to run out of people to infect?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,112
Saddlebrains said:
The euros final has whacked transmission up hugely.

I think we'll see huge amounts of cases now until Sunday.

Pretty certain we'll then see a decrease even with the reopening on July 19th.

Surely soon the virus is going to run out of people to infect?
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Why will it start decreasing from next week? Schools finish next week but that will be a fortnight until that has an affect I presume, then you have the emboldened anti maskers and night clubs opening to throw into the mix
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,113
Saddlebrains said:
The euros final has whacked transmission up hugely.

I think we'll see huge amounts of cases now until Sunday.

Pretty certain we'll then see a decrease even with the reopening on July 19th.

Surely soon the virus is going to run out of people to infect?
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It is going to get very high to be honest, then will fall off quite sharply once it has gone through the unvaccinated or single jabbers
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,114
Skybluefaz said:
Why will it start decreasing from next week? Schools finish next week but that will be a fortnight until that has an affect I presume, then you have the emboldened anti maskers and night clubs opening to throw into the mix
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Just feel those who will be going clubbing are the youngsters who the virus seeks to have absolutely ripped through in the last 6 weeks

Surely not many of them left to infect
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,115
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is going to get very high to be honest, then will fall off quite sharply once it has gone through the unvaccinated or single jabbers
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Got to
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,116
Sky Blue Pete said:
Got to
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There is a logic to letting so many people get immunity from catching it, though I'd rather people in my generation and below weren't viewed as suitable guinea pigs.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,117
Saddlebrains said:
Just feel those who will be going clubbing are the youngsters who the virus seeks to have absolutely ripped through in the last 6 weeks

Surely not many of them left to infect
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Yeah I guess so
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,118

Doesn't sound much different from now considering it's Johnsons big freedom day.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 14, 2021
  • #49,119
Skybluefaz said:

Doesn't sound much different from now considering it's Johnsons big freedom day.
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It is sensible though
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,120
Skybluefaz said:
Why will it start decreasing from next week? Schools finish next week but that will be a fortnight until that has an affect I presume, then you have the emboldened anti maskers and night clubs opening to throw into the mix
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The people who are likely to go out to nightclubs are the same people who watch the football in bars / at friends. I think the next step has been partially made already.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,121
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pfizer
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Thank god you got a vaccine
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,122
So, Scotland, Wales... London.


Other mayors calling for the same:


Even our Conservative one issues a reasonably strongly worded statement about what he'd like:

 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,123
fernandopartridge said:
The people who are likely to go out to nightclubs are the same people who watch the football in bars / at friends. I think the next step has been partially made already.
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Yeah I see that now.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,124
Radio 5 nhs this morning saying 14% of people experience symptoms for 12 weeks or more and 25-34 this goes up to 18% so 1 in 5. That’s a lot of illness when there’s gonna 2m infections a week.

Lots going really well but we really are daft not keeping masks and social distancing for a bit longer
 
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chiefdave

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,125
Looks like a u-turn incoming. Definitely needed but we'll see how far they are prepared to go. It seems the law allows TfL to enforce any mask rule as a condition of carriage and therefore issue fines, and of course there's TfL funded transport police to enforce it. Not sure it will be so easy to enforce in other places unless there's a change from the government so its no longer just advised.

Personally I see absolutely no sense in ignoring what we learnt from the test events and continue to use a combination of vaccine passports and negative test results. I don't see how events can be safe otherwise. The latest ONS figures are 1 in 160 people having covid, Javid says cases are expected to triple so that drops to close to 1 in 50 so how is something like a gig at Birmingham Academy for example, indoors, poorly ventilated and people rammed in so you can hardly move, going to be safe?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,126
chiefdave said:
Looks like a u-turn incoming. Definitely needed but we'll see how far they are prepared to go. It seems the law allows TfL to enforce any mask rule as a condition of carriage and therefore issue fines, and of course there's TfL funded transport police to enforce it. Not sure it will be so easy to enforce in other places unless there's a change from the government so its no longer just advised.

Personally I see absolutely no sense in ignoring what we learnt from the test events and continue to use a combination of vaccine passports and negative test results. I don't see how events can be safe otherwise. The latest ONS figures are 1 in 160 people having covid, Javid says cases are expected to triple so that drops to close to 1 in 50 so how is something like a gig at Birmingham Academy for example, indoors, poorly ventilated and people rammed in so you can hardly move, going to be safe?
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It won’t be safe but double vaccinated vulnerable people won’t get poorly sick and need hospitals like before
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,127
Deleted member 5849 said:
So, Scotland, Wales... London.


Other mayors calling for the same:


Even our Conservative one issues a reasonably strongly worded statement about what he'd like:

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Sensible to have strong messaging/mandated as terms of carriage where possible. Public transport is probably the main confined space where many don’t necessarily choose to be there ie they have to be.

Interesting to see Khan talking about masks on tubes, which I 100% agree with, especially in rush hour… last week I saw no enforcement of mask wearing on the tubes in London and that’s when they are currently mandatory !
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,128
CCFCSteve said:
Public transport is probably the main confined space where many don’t necessarily choose to be there ie they have to be.
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Yeah, that's my main concern. tbf it does get hazy in other areas - on the one level I'm all for people choosing to take the risk to go to a small pokey gig, for example... but then there are the staff who work there to consider, and the performers too. In that respect, it has echoes of the debate around the smoking ban in pubs and clubs before it came in.

Transport is the easy, obvious thing to do however, and it doesn't negatively impact on anybody really to do so.

As you mention, it's not like current regs are always enforced and that's where the freedom of choice argument is nonsense. Nobody's going to complain if somebody doesn't wear a mask on an empty carriage, after all, mandated or not!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,129
robbiekeane said:
Thank god you got a vaccine
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?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,130

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,131
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
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Really? That’s awful, got a link?
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,132
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
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If you follow the link you see he's a wannabe actor with a 'portfolio' on a site anyone can sign up for which shows he's been an extra in a couple of adverts a few years back. Few seconds on google shows he works as a floorer.

Not sure its quite the gotcha some are hoping for.
COV said:
Really? That’s awful, got a link?
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https://twitter.com/dazdotcom
 
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COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,133
chiefdave said:
If you follow the link you see he's a wannabe actor with a 'portfolio' on a site anyone can sign up for which shows he's been an extra in a couple of adverts a few years back. Few seconds on google shows he works as a floorer.

Not sure its quite the gotcha some are hoping for.
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But let’s get it right- these stories are made up and they’ve paid actors to pretend they’re sick?
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,134
The amount of people i know with Covid at the moment is mad


Id hazard a guess at a good quarter of cov being positive at the mo
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,135
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
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You mean actors don't have natural immunity? Fuck.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,136
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

I saw this today and underneath it there are various comments highlighting that this man is a paid actor, with links to his portfolio website.

It really doesn't help the greater cause if that's true.
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Nah it’s awful one can’t trust what’s being said
 

COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,137
Sky Blue Pete said:
Nah it’s awful one can’t trust what’s being said
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What are the actual facts here- it’s an actor who genuinely got sick, or this is fabricated and he’s been paid to make this up?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,138
COV said:
What are the actual facts here- it’s an actor who genuinely got sick, or this is fabricated and he’s been paid to make this up?
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Who knows, but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors, people have jumped on the bandwagon with this. I guess people can make their own minds up.

Personally have no idea, but thought I would share it on here as it is worth talking about I think.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,139
Skybluefaz said:
You mean actors don't have natural immunity? Fuck.
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COV

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  • Jul 15, 2021
  • #49,140
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Who knows, but with that Sarah Everard virgil being littered with paid actors, people have jumped on the bandwagon with this. I guess people can make their own minds up.

Personally have no idea, but thought I would share it on here as it is worth talking about I think.
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I would think personally that implying ITV would make this up using actors is heading into conspiracy theory territory but who knows
 
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