Sky Blue Pete
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Self isolate
Self isolateWhat precautions can individuals take?
Not go to work on a packed rush hour train with Piers Corbyn and his acolytes?What precautions can individuals take?
What precautions can individuals take?
They can restrict their own movements, self isolate, not go anywhere that social distancing indoors may be compromised, order all food to be delivered to their homes?
What precautions can individuals take?
They can restrict their own movements, self isolate, not go anywhere that social distancing indoors may be compromised, order all food to be delivered to their homes?
So as long as they’re well off and working from home they’re fine. What about the other 60% of the country? Risk is shared, bubbling doesn’t work, we learned that first time around. Risk is shared in a pandemic, even if it upsets your teenage political sensibilities.
Quite surprised that given how much talk there was of the mental health impact caused by restrictions the advise to people who are anxious about the rapid rise in cases is to never leave the house.
Is nobody concerned about the mental health of others now they're allowed to go to the pub?
Quite surprised that given how much talk there was of the mental health impact caused by restrictions the advise to people who are anxious about the rapid rise in cases is to never leave the house.
Is nobody concerned about the mental health of others now they're allowed to go to the pub?
What if you were in a job where you’ve worked the whole pandemic? Don’t you think staring at home increases paranoia and fear?
It’s not a paranoia if there’s actually a pandemic on.
What if you were in a job where you’ve worked the whole pandemic? Don’t you think staring at home increases paranoia and fear?
where I work the whole estate has worked all through it - there’s zero mention of it and the mindset is totally different to what I see on here
If you don’t mind me asking where do you work? No problem if you don’t want to say, there are some crackpots on here
They can restrict their own movements, self isolate, not go anywhere that social distancing indoors may be compromised, order all food to be delivered to their homes?
What if you were in a job where you’ve worked the whole pandemic? Don’t you think staring at home increases paranoia and fear?
The age profile of hospitalised people of the delta variant is much lower than the previous variant isn’t it?
Regardless, why would this be impacting your mates and not the millions of elderly we’ve just vaccinated? The vaccine is clearly working as the disconnect between cases and deaths has shown.
So what is your argument?
You started off saying individuals can take precautions by staying home etc and are now going completely against that by saying loads of people had to work through the pandemic.
What if you want to take precautions but your job doesn't let you?
I presume you mean a job that can't be done from home. Aren't you arguing against your own point here? If you were working in Tesco and worried about getting covid you would be very happy if the government did a u-turn and said masks are still required in shops and some attempt at social distancing in stores was going to be maintained.What if you were in a job where you’ve worked the whole pandemic? Don’t you think staring at home increases paranoia and fear?
Since when did age and health stop people contracting covid?
Hmm, depends who you talk to, tbf. I can point you to some whose mental health certainly *isn't*, and who certainly aren't happy at the lack of masks in their workplace...how can shop floor workers have a choice and their mental health seems fine
It doesn't.
The effects of it are significantly different though. Young people are largely unaffected by it compared to older persons.
Yeah it's difficult psychologically. My parents have just started getting out and about, but are now a bit nervy again going forward from 19th July. With all the mantra about the economy, I'm not convinced that making masks voluntary actually helps. Psychologically, that could restrict business to an extent, especially as wearing a mask doesn't stop you spending money. I'm sure they looked into it before they made the decision they did, but I'd have strongly thought there was a psychological argument that phased, leaving masks there for a month or two, could have been more reassuring and actually increased consumer confidence.I already had that conversation with my Mum last night who was in tears saying she doesn't feel it will ever be safe to leave the house again after the governments most recent announcement. What am I supposed to say when she's talking about people like them being forgotten about, written off and left to die?
well my job would let me…I have the choice others don’t - how can shop floor workers have a choice and their mental health seems fine
What is your point then if it all seems ‘strange’ that your friends were laid up?
I presume you mean a job that can't be done from home. Aren't you arguing against your own point here? If you were working in Tesco and worried about getting covid you would be very happy if the government did a u-turn and said masks are still required in shops and some attempt at social distancing in stores was going to be maintained.
You may well be right that staying at home could make things worse but I'm not sure you can label it paranoia when there's a pandemic on and cases, hospitalisations and deaths all rising.
I'm CV and my Dad is CEV. He's not left the house in 18 months on doctors advise and now with the numbers all going the wrong way people like him, who despite being vaccinated could be in big trouble if they caught covid, are being told its back to 'normal'. I'm sure there's a lot of people for who making that switch overnight isn't easy. Just telling them to never leave the house isn't the answer.
I already had that conversation with my Mum last night who was in tears saying she doesn't feel it will ever be safe to leave the house again after the governments most recent announcement. What am I supposed to say when she's talking about people like them being forgotten about, written off and left to die?
Isn't there another potential workplace issue? If we're letting covid run rampant and happily letting covid numbers spiral on the basis you 'only' get it bad enough to need a couple of weeks in bed or a quick stay in hospital how many businesses can cope with a covid outbreak leading to a significant percentage of their workforce being off work for a few weeks at the same time?
I know my company couldn't cope with that and they aren't risking it. Every day you go into the office you have to be able to produce a negative test from that morning or the night before. But from what it being posted on here some companies are happily operating while making no attempt to mitigate the risks.
Exactly.
You're saying individuals can make decisions to avoid others when many clearly can't, and with everything opening up and other businesses wanting workers back in that choice is going to disappear for many others.
So apparently the advice is make your own mind up if you want to go out even though you don't have that choice and have to? Or is their option to quit their job (which most in those types of roles can't afford to do?)
So not following the law??? Don’t understandWe’ve had 3 Covid outbreaks none of the people who haven’t got it have to stay at home
Or... it suggests they've been a good employer with excellent practices, and does make an assumption everybody comes up to their high standards.So not following the law??? Don’t understand
How is it paranoia when the doctor has spent 18 months telling him its not safe to leave the house? He, like many other who are CEV, have been told that even post vaccination the impact of getting covid could be very serious and potentially fatal.You are literally proving my point about paranoia - I have no idea how old your parents are but I know workers of 70 who have worked through and show none of those fears at all
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