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wingy

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  • Jul 6, 2021
  • #48,616
Deleted member 5849 said:
The 'logic' is they restrict airflow, and you start breathing your own breath back in - i.e. carbon dioxide etc.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
According to what I've heard about the air quality and toxins on there it'd be best to do so for your own health regardless
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Sky Blue Pete said:
28773
37 deaths

Would 100000 lead to 150 or more?

Let’s see what happens. Happy to trust chief medical officer
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Somewhere between that and 200 I'd think.
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,617
I just welcome the freedom to manage the situation myself. Mask on the train and in busy shops? Probably. Sitting in a quiet cafe putting it on to walk in and out and removing it to drink my tea, errr no
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,618
fernandopartridge said:
This is an interesting thread on removing restrictions

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Meh I’d rather take the word of Sharon on Twitter who lives for Covid than some doctor/ scientist.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,619
Macca said:
I just welcome the freedom to manage the situation myself. Mask on the train and in busy shops? Probably. Sitting in a quiet cafe putting it on to walk in and out and removing it to drink my tea, errr no
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Chris Whitty has it right, in my view (maybe unsurprisingly)

 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,620
Deleted member 5849 said:
Chris Whitty has it right, in my view (maybe unsurprisingly)

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They have no right to infringe my personal choice. Bloomin eck
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,621
Let's hope this geezer's right, and glass half full is the way to go(!)

Vaccines mean 'no need to wobble' on easing rules

Today Programme
BBC Radio 4
There is no need to "wobble" on plans to ease coronavirus restrictions, says Prof John Bell, suggesting that immunity from vaccinations could be increasing over time.
The regius professor of medicine at Oxford University says he is encouraged by evidence that vaccines are "holding their own" by reducing the likelihood of hospital admission and death to "very small indeed" after both doses.
"That's what the government is counting on and I see no reason to wobble on that," he tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
"The second thing is, our immune responses seem to get better over time. After you've had two vaccines, when you pop back up six months later, your immune system has developed the response to the virus to an even more mature state.
"So, I think, not only have we got good immunity but that immunity may well improve over time. As you know, I'm a sort of a glass half-full guy and I'm sort of three-quarters full at the moment."
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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,622
Macca said:
I just welcome the freedom to manage the situation myself. Mask on the train and in busy shops? Probably. Sitting in a quiet cafe putting it on to walk in and out and removing it to drink my tea, errr no
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I find that preposterous myself
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,623
fernandopartridge said:
I find that preposterous myself
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The sitting in a quiet cafe wearing a mask, or the freedom to manage it yourself?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,624
Deleted member 5849 said:
The sitting in a quiet cafe wearing a mask, or the freedom to manage it yourself?
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The rule whereby in a small high street cafe for example, you can take your mask off to sit down where you're going to spend the majority of your time, and, especially if in company, expel the most virus (if you have it), but you must put a mask on to walk out of the cafe.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,625

Data predicts 2m UK summer Covid cases with 10m isolating

Guardian analysis prompts health warnings as Javid says England entering ‘uncharted territory’
www.theguardian.com

If the Guardian has its numbers right on isolations, then millions of us will find ourselves in a tougher lockdown after restrictions end than before. The isolation question is going to be one of the stories of the summer.
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,626
SBT said:

Data predicts 2m UK summer Covid cases with 10m isolating

Guardian analysis prompts health warnings as Javid says England entering ‘uncharted territory’
www.theguardian.com

If the Guardian has its numbers right on isolations, then millions of us will find ourselves in a tougher lockdown after restrictions end then before. The isolation question is going to be one of the stories of the summer.
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There's absolutely no chance that 10m people will voluntarily self-isolate over the summer.
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,627
MusicDating said:
There's absolutely no chance that 10m people will voluntarily self-isolate over the summer.
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Agree. Just move to the testing. Most people will self isolate if positive, a lot of people won’t if just told to self isolate because they’ve been near someone positive (especially if they subsequently tested negative). Get a structure in place to minimise risk and maximise compliance

Ps I’ll go one step further, people will just delete the app (when it’s not needed to get in places) which is far more dangerous
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,628
The media are acting outraged about the fact that people might actually use their own free will about whether to wear a face-nappy or not - god I hate them
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,629
baldy said:
The media are acting outraged about the fact that people might actually use their own free will about whether to wear a face-nappy or not - god I hate them
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It’s not a nappy it’s a muzzle
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,630
Ah, the proocative wankers have woken up...
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,631
CCFCSteve said:
Agree. Just move to the testing. Most people will self isolate if positive, a lot of people won’t if just told to self isolate because they’ve been near someone positive (especially if they subsequently tested negative). Get a structure in place to minimise risk and maximise compliance

Ps I’ll go one step further, people will just delete the app (when it’s not needed to get in places) which is far more dangerous
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I always admire your ability to shoe horn in some brackets in every post
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,632
MusicDating said:
There's absolutely no chance that 10m people will voluntarily self-isolate over the summer.
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#We're staying home#
#We're staying home#
 

Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,633
baldy said:
The media are acting outraged about the fact that people might actually use their own free will about whether to wear a face-nappy or not - god I hate them
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If you kindly ask one of the Doctors or Nurses about the benefits of face masks when you are emptying the bins you might learn something.
 
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hill83

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,634
COV said:
I always admire your ability to shoe horn in some brackets in every post
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Hate them*

*Love them
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,635
COV said:
I always admire your ability to shoe horn in some brackets in every post
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and a ps or an edit (nothing if not consistent )
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,636
I think with masks, as they're to protect others and not yourself people are going to see some without and give up. The attitude being if they're not protecting me then why should I protect them.

I think the majority that still wear them will do so in the belief that they're protecting themselves.

This all comes from the poor education that the population have had since the pandemic started. Let's be fair, we were told for a long time that masks do nothing to stop the spread.
 
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baldy

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,637
Skybluefaz said:
If you kindly ask one of the Doctors or Nurses about the benefits of face masks when you are emptying the bins you might learn something.
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At the end of the day,it is just personal choice....end of - if you want to wear a mask that's up to you,but I'm going to choose not to because I have that right
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,638
baldy said:
At the end of the day,it is just personal choice....end of - if you want to wear a mask that's up to you,but I'm going to choose not to because I have that right
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It's good manners to wear one in certain circumstances, it's about protecting others not you
 
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baldy

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,639
fernandopartridge said:
It's good manners to wear one in certain circumstances, it's about protecting others not you
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Despite what some of you may think,I intend to still wear them on public transport & in shops etc if I see that others are anxious - I'm not a complete cretin
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,640
baldy said:
Despite what some of you may think,I intend to still wear them on public transport & in shops etc if I see that others are anxious - I'm not a complete cretin
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How will you judge the anxiety of a stranger?
 
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Deleted member 4439

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,641
Rich said:
I think with masks, as they're to protect others and not yourself
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I've seen this stated many times and it just seems illogical to me, as if masks only worked one way.

More stupid are those who say masks don't work, when clearly they do, to greater or less degree depending on the mask type and how they are worn/used.

Personally, it's been wonderful not to have had single cold or flu virus for the last 18 months, and its the reason why I'll be looking to wear mine as long as I can whilst managing the weight of the stares of the freedom brigade.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,642
Deleted member 5849 said:
How will you judge the anxiety of a stranger?
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Obviously if on a bus for instance & they're wearing a mask that'd say to me that they're not comfy without one so I'd put one on - I'm on about more in a pub for instance
 
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Skybluefaz

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,643
baldy said:
At the end of the day,it is just personal choice....end of - if you want to wear a mask that's up to you,but I'm going to choose not to because I have that right
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I will choose to not wear one for the most part, I won't go around calling them face nappies or that kind of thing though.
 
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baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,644
Skybluefaz said:
I will choose to not wear one for the most part, I won't go around calling them face nappies or that kind of thing though.
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What harm does it do calling them that? It's only a word for gods sake
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,645
baldy said:
What harm does it do calling them that? It's only a word for gods sake
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So is mask
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,646
Sky Blue Pete said:
So is mask
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I'll carry on calling them face nappies if that's ok by you because that's how I feel about them.....geeeez
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,647
baldy said:
Obviously if on a bus for instance & they're wearing a mask that'd say to me that they're not comfy without one so I'd put one on - I'm on about more in a pub for instance
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OK, that's fair enough. Now... how about toning the language down about face nappies etc. as that probably doesn't help anxiety of passing people, and it seems there's a path to redemption for you yet

(FWIW if you're going into a pub and wearing a mask, you'll be struggling to drink a pint - which is where the rules were somewhat paradoxical, as no mask is pretty unavoidable in those circumstances!)
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,648
baldy said:
What harm does it do calling them that? It's only a word for gods sake
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It turns out your position is actually fairly considerate. Calling them that and spouting off about how you're not going to wear one gives the impression, tbh, of an unhinged mentalist who's determinded to come and breathe in peoples' faces and hug them BECAUSE THEY CAN.

And that doesn't reassure about members of the public, their common sense, personal responsibility, and general looking out for others... unlike your later statements.
 

baldy

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,649
Deleted member 5849 said:
OK, that's fair enough. Now... how about toning the language down about face nappies etc. as that probably doesn't help anxiety of passing people, and it seems there's a path to redemption for you yet

(FWIW if you're going into a pub and wearing a mask, you'll be struggling to drink a pint - which is where the rules were somewhat paradoxical, as no mask is pretty unavoidable in those circumstances!)
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I honestly don't mean to upset anybody with my posts in this particular thread,I realise it's a bit of a hot potato talking about covid & restrictions etc - guess it's all just frustration coming out about wanting it over & done with - peace & luv to all
 
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We'll_live_and_die

Super Moderator
  • Jul 7, 2021
  • #48,650
baldy said:
I'll carry on calling them face nappies if that's ok by you because that's how I feel about them.....geeeez
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Nappy - a piece of towelling or other absorbent material wrapped round a baby's bottom and between its legs to absorb and retain urine and faeces.

As a mask neither goes around a babies ass or is there to absorb Urine or Faeces, I think you're probably using an incorrect term.

Your choice though.
 
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