Fair enough , I imagine many people will continue wearing masks anyway
So when do we open up? Or do we not as we ‘risk’ a new variant?They can still be the infection that creates a variant and the more cases the more chances of new variants. so it is a very big risk
Deaths will rise from current levels as they lag cases, the government must expect cases to level off and start to decline at some point soonWas pretty noticeable, especially when the PM was stood next to him and only minutes ago had announce the removal of the very things Whitty said scientists agreed needed to remain in place. The masks thing is odd, polling shows people are massively in favour of keeping mask requirement and countries like Israel, who have previously removed the requirement, are bringing it back in.
Vallance also a noticeably different tone. Taking about cases rising and "spreading up the age groups", hospitalisations rising and deaths rising. Most worryingly he said he expects deaths to continue rising. Not sure how that all equates to the governments "nothing in the data" to suggest some measures need to remain.
Feels like deja vu, back to where we were 18 months ago. Government saying let it pass through everyone, economy over public health etc and the experts saying this is a really bad idea and will end up with a long lockdown later in the year. Hope that this time the government is right and the experts wrong but the track record would suggest otherwise.
Hopefully- there are plenty of people already saying that’s it, all over, and looking forward to being asked if they’ll wear a mask so they can tell them to f*** off
Would like to see some positives but the states that are removing restrictions the fastest, which seems to be the southern states on the whole, are seeing numbers surge.Amazing how people still wont look at the data for cases Florida and other states. That show you can live without masks and social distancing.
Is Johnson going against the advice of scientists again?
Absolutely notDoes anybody genuinely think there is still a case for criminalising people for meeting others?
Tbh with you the rail companies might enforce masks as part of the ticket terms, it doesn't need to be a lawWhat I don't get, is that masks on public transport don't negatively affect the economy, so that argument is gone.
They're either needed... or not. It's typical Johnson to end up in the middle, create uncertaintly, and potentially harm the economy if people are reluctant to travel as a result!
What they can't do however is compel people anymore, or ask for backup (or even the threat of backup). I know at our place of work they're piss poor at that type of thing, so voluntary may as well be nobody wears them.Tbh with you the rail companies might enforce masks as part of the ticket terms, it doesn't need to be a law
Presumably I’ll finally be able to see my family once these restrictions are lifted and I’m double vaccinated?Does anybody genuinely think there is still a case for criminalising people for meeting others?
The impression I get from looking at what experts are saying about it is they've gone back to something along the lines of the original herd immunity plan. Let it rip through the country over the summer and hope the NHS can cope with any surge and fingers crossed its over and done with before the winter and the annual NHS crisis. Of course that relies on it only being possible to get it once - is that still the thinking, recall there was some doubt, and not having a vaccine resistant variant - and the experts seem to be suggesting we are creating the perfect conditions for such a variant.I was slightly confused by this quote from Boris: "To those who say we should delay again, the alternative to that is to open up in the winter, when the virus will have an advantage, or not at all this year"
If he's suggesting it would be a bad idea to open everything up in the winter, why open up before that? Or are we looking at a re-run of last year, where we get a few months of 'normality' before we've really earned it, only for it to lead to more restrictions after it sends things haywire?
I want us to open up in an irreversible fashion like they promised, not have someone say "Well, this is as good as it's going to get, may as well enjoy August"
Fuck that not drinking with you cuntsSo are we gonna have an SBT get together before the Forest match now? I’d love to put some faces to the insults
So are we gonna have an SBT get together before the Forest match now? I’d love to put some faces to the insults
Boris’ speech in summary.View attachment 20759
What they can't do however is compel people anymore, or ask for backup (or even the threat of backup). I know at our place of work they're piss poor at that type of thing, so voluntary may as well be nobody wears them.
Everyone swarm on block 16 and throw masks at Evo
So you want to celebrate the European championships by lobbing masks at me in block 16 .Well I’m gonna go on record right now and say I’m up for it.
We’ll be celebrating becoming European Champions are arguing if that’s a bigger thing than signing Bright and beating Forest
Reading through the comments since the announcement, yes i get some peoples concerns of course, but 1 thing is glaringly obvious.
Nobody has mentioned the vaccine.
This is why were opening up. The vaccine works. It's keeping 85% of people who contract covid out of hospital. It's keeping 96% of people who contract Covid alive.
We've been in a 3rd wave of cases for more than 7 weeks now. The increase in hospitalisations is less than 5% of January peak. 42000 at the peak. 1900 now.
Deaths over 1000 a day. Push 30 odd a day max now.
This is the biggest difference
People saying we're rinsing and repeating last year, we are not in my view.
We wouldn't be doing this if the vaccine didnt work. It does, and if we dont get back to normal now when will we?
I've been against restrictions for a while now as we know, but on the subject of masks, il still carry one and if i see someone uncomfortable with me without one, i shall put one on. Unless they're a prick about it of course
Is Johnson going against the advice of scientists again?
Sadiq Khan's looking at making mask wearing part of the conditions of use for TFL i.e buses and the tube.
They should wear masks in London in normal times ..the city is full of fucking mutantsSadiq Khan's looking at making mask wearing part of the conditions of use for TFL i.e buses and the tube.
They should wear masks in London in normal times ..the city is full of fucking mutants
What risk reduction is there from wearing masks and is it negated when they are unwashed and stuffed in pockets before putting them on?
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