Match Thread Rotherham United FC - Coventry City Match Thread - Wednesday 25th Oct (1 Viewer)

[slowpoke]

Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.

 

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[TomRad85]

Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.

"3 cheers for Rotherham"

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[Tommo1993]

They only started playing when they realised we posed as much threat as a basket of newly born kittens.

If we’d have backed off immediately from KO such as Bristol and Rotherham, we’d have been annihilated. But good old Coventry City, gift them all you like, they’ll do nothing about it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

"3 cheers for Rotherham"

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‘I tell you if Rathbone don’t win player of the season there’s no justice’

 

[stupot07]

MR has always wanted us to dominate the ball but has been pragmatic enough to change it up as needed.

His argument, probably rightly, is that style of football is more sustainable long-term but we're clearly struggling massively with it at the moment.

I was fully behind the Hadji Wright signing because, stylistically, he wasn't massively dissimilar to Gyokeres. We have then completely pivoted away from the style of play that would suit him...

That's my big gripe, he hasn't brought in players to dominate the ball, yet changes style.

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[stupot07]

Robins' pragmatic side usually appears in these moments so it'll be interesting to see what happens.

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It usually comes when theres an injury that forces him into a decision to be fair.

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[stupot07]

Dasilva had 1.3 xA last night. Bidwell had about 3.1 for the whole of last season.

Dasilva had 14 shot creating actions last night, next most was Sheaf with 10 and then Ayari with 5.

He made more passes than anyone and more progressive passes.

He was poor in the second half and had a little spell where he was all over the shop. But pretty much everything went through him last night and he's the least of our worries right now.

He had xA of 5.93 last season which put him in the 70th percentile 0.15 per 90 mins. He got 4 assists and a goal last season.

For context

Palmer 0.17 per 90 mins
Allen 0.12 per 90 mins
Sheaf 0.15 per 90 mins

Last season Dasilva had xA of 0.12, the season before that 0.16. It is higher his season currently at 0.20 but we are playing different style of football, with 2 strikers with more options in the box.

He isn't massively more attacking than Bidwell. And the difference in quality between the two is negligible, they just have different playing styles and strengths.

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[PVA]

He had xA of 5.93 last season which put him in the 70th percentile 0.15 per 90 mins. He got 4 assists and a goal last season.

For context

Palmer 0.17 per 90 mins
Allen 0.12 per 90 mins
Sheaf 0.15 per 90 mins

Last season Dasilva had xA of 0.12, the season before that 0.16. It is higher his season currently at 0.20 but we are playing different style of football, with 2 strikers with more options in the box.

He isn't massively more attacking than Bidwell. And the difference in quality between the two is negligible, they just have different playing styles and strengths.

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Not sure where you're getting your stats from, I have Dasilva's numbers the same as yours but Bidwell's are way off that where I'm looking (fbref.com).

It shows Bidwell as xA of 2.5 for last season.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

He earns money playing football I’d guess more than you have ever done

Yes he has and point well made if I was mocking him, I was offering an opinion that Grenada are probably not Championship level (or better!) as you claimed

 

[skybluecam]

I reckon most the opponents Jamaica play are better than most if not all championship teams

 

[skybluecam]

I reckon most the opponents Jamaica play are better than most if not all championship teams

for reference, Jamaica's last 10 opponents...

Jordan

United States

Trinidad and Tobago

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Guatemala

Mexico

Honduras

Haiti

Grenada

Haiti

 

[slowpoke]

Get rid of him then

 

[Grendel]

Yes he has and point well made if I was mocking him, I was offering an opinion that Grenada are probably not Championship level (or better!) as you claimed

We should never have let Onandi Lowe leave

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

Get rid of him then

I’ve found a course what might be useful for you Rupert

Reading 101: Self-Paced Learning Modules

 

[stupot07]

Not sure where you're getting your stats from, I have Dasilva's numbers the same as yours but Bidwell's are way off that where I'm looking (fbref.com).

It shows Bidwell as xA of 2.5 for last season.

I got them from here

https://footystats.org/players/england/jake-bidwell

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[SBAndy]

Hindsight is great isn't it ? I think Da Silva has been ok for what it's worth , he's technically sound and has a lot of ability on the ball . What he hasn't delivered so far is decent crosses on a regular basis which has been disappointing

Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.

 

[SBAndy]

I'm struggling to believe we had 66% possession last night, that can't be right.

Once you realise ‘possession’ is just number of passes completed it makes more sense.

 

[napolimp]

for reference, Jamaica's last 10 opponents...

Jordan

United States

Trinidad and Tobago

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Guatemala

Mexico

Honduras

Haiti

Grenada

Haiti

If you go through the current squads for those teams on Wikipedia, you realise how dumb slowpoke's comment was.

 

[shmmeee]

If you go through the current squads for those teams on Wikipedia, you realise how dumb slowpoke's comment was.

One of them is a team even Haji Wright can’t get into

 

[napolimp]

One of them is a team even Haji Wright can’t get into

Wright can't get into this team at the moment.

 

[SBT]

Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.

He has the same number of assists as Bidwell had at this stage last season. A lot of the complaints seem overblown to me.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Using the Rotherham game as an example, Dasilva delivered 4 crosses into dangerous areas that we won first contact on:

54: Simms’ headed chance
85: Sakamoto glanced wide
95: O’Hare glanced wide
96: Thomas put header wide

I don’t think his delivery has been particularly lacking in many games.

Did he play the ball in for Simms' shot in the first half?

 

[stupot07]

Did he play the ball in for Simms' shot in the first half?

No that was Fadz.

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[Hertsccfc]

No that was Fadz.

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Are you sure about that?

 

[skybluecam]

Rotherham played well, let’s not forget that.

Rotherham were shit.

It is worrying me a bit that MR keeps talking about missed chances and not how poor our performance was generally.

 

[stupot07]

Are you sure about that?

100%. Dasilva was on the half way line. Here's Fadz crossing the ball.


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[slowpoke]

Rotherham were shit.

It is worrying me a bit that MR keeps talking about missed chances and not how poor our performance was generally.

They were better than us on the day.

 

[Hertsccfc]

100%. Dasilva was on the half way line. Here's Fadz crossing the ball.


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Strange place for McFadzean to be