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Joe Elliott is attending the Sky Blues Kenilworth Supporters Club tomorrow -Wednesday (2 Viewers)

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  • Start date Apr 16, 2013
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RoboCCFC90

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  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #141
dongonzalos said:
Gary Hoffman agrees with you on that last bit and they have officially contacted the administrator three times about it.
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Really? I thought all my post was pretty fair

That's fair enough, but they need to get ACL, SBT and the Takeover Group and go to the FL/FA and make them aware that this is just a drawn out situation in favour of SISU.
 

sky blue john

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #142
the administrator is not doing any favours for himself impartiality wise by dragging this issue out !
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #143
id rather it took time then was done wrong or are we forgettin how elliot pushed sisus bid through so quick last time and now we pay for that so if it means its done right why not wait a bit
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #144
RoboCCFC90 said:
Really? I thought all my post was pretty fair

That's fair enough, but they need to get ACL, SBT and the Takeover Group and go to the FL/FA and make them aware that this is just a drawn out situation in favour of SISU.
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An ex banker asked who regulates administrators.

They pointed out that administrators have to act as quickly as possible as costs go up everyday including their own.

However they did say. There must be a lot more complexities that the administrator is finding.

They can't start bidding till he unearths it all as they don't know what they are bidding for.

However for it take this long there must be more complexities in there.
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #145
dongonzalos said:
An ex banker asked who regulates administrators.

They pointed out that administrators have to act as quickly as possible as costs go up everyday including their own.

However they did say. There must be a lot more complexities that the administrator is finding.

They can't start bidding till he unearths it all as they don't know what they are bidding for.

However for it take this long there must be more complexities in there.
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Without sounding like a Brainiac not one single person thought that the club would be bought on the cheap, very easily and stress free lets face it the term "Stress Free" is not something we are used to here at CCFC, so stating the obvious in that respect.
 
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LarryGrayson

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #146
dongonzalos said:
However they did say. There must be a lot more complexities that the administrator is finding.

They can't start bidding till he unearths it all as they don't know what they are bidding for.

However for it take this long there must be more complexities in there.
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glad they said that this is good
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #147
This Golden Share business is an utter farce. The League must have records and so must the club.
 

smouch1975

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #148
Joe Elliott is attending the Sky Blues Kenilworth Supporters Club tomorrow -Wed

AVRO won't be gone till they get their £60 million then......
 

Sub

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #149
Brighton Sky Blue said:
This Golden Share business is an utter farce. The League must have records and so must the club.
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SISU said the golden share was in plain english in their books you just need to find it !!

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #150
Sub said:
SISU said the golden share was in plain english in their books you just need to find it !!

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We need to get a certain W. Wonka on the case.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #151
dongonzalos said:
An ex banker asked who regulates administrators.

They pointed out that administrators have to act as quickly as possible as costs go up everyday including their own.

However they did say. There must be a lot more complexities that the administrator is finding.

They can't start bidding till he unearths it all as they don't know what they are bidding for.

However for it take this long there must be more complexities in there.
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Hoffman said last night that to find the share would take a 5 minute phone call. I think it would take even less than that!!!
 
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luwalla

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #152
sky blue john said:
the administrator is not doing any favours for himself impartiality wise by dragging this issue out !
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ive dealt with 4 companies that have gone into administration now - through my own company - i even tried to buy out a company from the administrator when one of my customers went into admin.. and i can tell you from personal experience, the adminastrator dragged it out for as long as he could.. have you seen the fees they charge per hour!

i can also tell you that when i tried to buy my customers company that had gone into administrator.. the administrator made it really hard work - you would have thought i was chasing him to pay me, not for me to pay him & offer him a nice clean conclusion.

In the end i submitted a good offer anyway & took a bit of a punt.. and i couldnt even get a reply from then then.. the guy was always out of office, or in a meeting.. they couldnt even confirm receipt of my offer. the next thing i heard my customer had brought back his own company!

actually reading the above , you would believe that the administrator was working with /acting in the best intrest of the company owner, rather than the company & the people it owed money too.. but surely not , i must be mistaken!

the final kick in teeth of course , i got my closing letter from that administrator telling me how many hundreds of thousands they had charged for his services.. and that there was nothing left in the pot, so i wouldnt be getting any of the money the business owed me.

moral of the story.. dont be expecting anything quickly.. easily.. or even at all..
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #153
torchomatic said:
Yes, maybe I should have gone. However, I went to the Trust thing the night before with Pressley and a man my age can't go out two week nights in a row.
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To be fair, if we'd gone and Hoffman had started saying "that Torchomatic off Sky Blues Talk really grinds my gears with his foundless allegations", I think we'd have fainted, imploded, or simply assumed that it was a surreal dream...possibly caused by eating too much cheese.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #154
torchomatic said:
Yes, maybe I should have gone. However, I went to the Trust thing the night before with Pressley and a man my age can't go out two week nights in a row.
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If it helps, I'm a bit younger than you and I felt far too knackered as well.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #155
luwalla said:
ive dealt with 4 companies that have gone into administration now - through my own company - i even tried to buy out a company from the administrator when one of my customers went into admin.. and i can tell you from personal experience, the adminastrator dragged it out for as long as he could.. have you seen the fees they charge per hour!

i can also tell you that when i tried to buy my customers company that had gone into administrator.. the administrator made it really hard work - you would have thought i was chasing him to pay me, not for me to pay him & offer him a nice clean conclusion.

In the end i submitted a good offer anyway & took a bit of a punt.. and i couldnt even get a reply from then then.. the guy was always out of office, or in a meeting.. they couldnt even confirm receipt of my offer. the next thing i heard my customer had brought back his own company!

actually reading the above , you would believe that the administrator was working with /acting in the best intrest of the company owner, rather than the company & the people it owed money too.. but surely not , i must be mistaken!

the final kick in teeth of course , i got my closing letter from that administrator telling me how many hundreds of thousands they had charged for his services.. and that there was nothing left in the pot, so i wouldnt be getting any of the money the business owed me.

moral of the story.. dont be expecting anything quickly.. easily.. or even at all..
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Moral of the tale: most administrators are self-centred vultures. That was exactly the impression I have got during the 3 times that businesses I worked for went into administration.
 
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ryb1983ccfc

New Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #156
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Nonleagueherewecome said:
Moral of the tale: most administrators are self-centred vultures. That was exactly the impression I have got during the 3 times that businesses I worked for went into administration.
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buddy you need to stop going to work for people that go into admin lol
 

mattylad

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #157
luwalla said:
ive dealt with 4 companies that have gone into administration now - through my own company - i even tried to buy out a company from the administrator when one of my customers went into admin.. and i can tell you from personal experience, the adminastrator dragged it out for as long as he could.. have you seen the fees they charge per hour!

i can also tell you that when i tried to buy my customers company that had gone into administrator.. the administrator made it really hard work - you would have thought i was chasing him to pay me, not for me to pay him & offer him a nice clean conclusion.

In the end i submitted a good offer anyway & took a bit of a punt.. and i couldnt even get a reply from then then.. the guy was always out of office, or in a meeting.. they couldnt even confirm receipt of my offer. the next thing i heard my customer had brought back his own company!

actually reading the above , you would believe that the administrator was working with /acting in the best intrest of the company owner, rather than the company & the people it owed money too.. but surely not , i must be mistaken!

the final kick in teeth of course , i got my closing letter from that administrator telling me how many hundreds of thousands they had charged for his services.. and that there was nothing left in the pot, so i wouldnt be getting any of the money the business owed me.

moral of the story.. dont be expecting anything quickly.. easily.. or even at all..
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Can't fault a word of that. It rings very true with what I see most weeks.
 

mattylad

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #158
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Moral of the tale: most administrators are self-centred vultures. That was exactly the impression I have got during the 3 times that businesses I worked for went into administration.
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Now I know we talked about your failings yesterday but I din't know you were dragging firms down with it (Joke)
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #159
@richh87 said:
Hoffman said last night that to find the share would take a 5 minute phone call. I think it would take even less than that!!!
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If so what's taking Appleton so long???
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #160
RoboCCFC90 said:
If so what's taking Appleton so long???
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #161
jimmyhillsfanclub said:
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Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #162
Does that mean Gary has signed up on here as GaryHoffman?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #163
Nick said:
Does that mean Gary has signed up on here as GaryHoffman?
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I doubt he would mate!
 

@richh87

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #164
Doubt he posts, just reads.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #165
RoboCCFC90 said:
If so what's taking Appleton so long???
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Exactly - we should all be asking that, not saying 'be patient' as some on here are
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #166
ryb1983ccfc said:
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buddy you need to stop going to work for people that go into admin lol
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I'm a total Jonah. "Go into Local Government" they said, "they can't go bust". That was 7 years ago. The cutbacks started soon after my first day I think...
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #167
@richh87 said:
Exactly - we should all be asking that, not saying 'be patient' as some on here are
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I can understand the patience thing though Rich as obviously Paul Appleton has to follow procedure, but lets be honest it would take a five minute call, I am tempted to just ring the FA myself and ask where it is and if they know the whereabouts can they inform Paul Appleton who don't seem to have a scooby!
 

brinner

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #168
RoboCCFC90 said:
I can understand the patience thing though Rich as obviously Paul Appleton has to follow procedure, but lets be honest it would take a five minute call, I am tempted to just ring the FA myself and ask where it is and if they know the whereabouts can they inform Paul Appleton who don't seem to have a scooby!
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01772 325800 is the number you need to ring for that
 

@richh87

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #169
Do it! Haha
 

brinner

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #170
@richh87 said:
Do it! Haha
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i already have haha

dout they will tell me anything but they said they someone called Amanda Craig will ring me back either today or tomorrow...........not had a call back yet.

should get as many fans to ring em as possible!
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #171
Well, we're the fans...no fans=no club, so we have every right to know! I expect that they'll give some bull about "ongoing investigations" though.
 

@richh87

Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #172
I bet they'd find out in less than 5 mins if an angry mob turned up. I'm not suggesting that should happen - but we all know they're stringing it out because they want to and there aren't consequences.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #173
Nonleagueherewecome said:
Moral of the tale: most administrators are self-centred vultures. That was exactly the impression I have got during the 3 times that businesses I worked for went into administration.
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Seems all 3 of these businesses had one person in common. Coincidence?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #174
mark82 said:
Seems all 3 of these businesses had one person in common. Coincidence?
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Considering all three were chains of over a hundred stores and I was just one employee in one of them, I'd like to think that even I am not capable of making such a monumental cock-up to cause that level of collateral damage. FFS, I'm not Ken Dulieu..
 
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DiveDiveWhereverYouMayBe

New Member
  • Apr 18, 2013
  • #175
I would imagine the sorts of statements which rankle are the likes of those that decry specified individuals as 'relentless self-publicists', etc. If you have met them and feel insightful enough to make such a comment, that is all well and good. If you are just a gobshite behind a keyboard on a football forum which simmers aways with infighting, trolls and point scorers, then perhaps try harder to pick apart actual statements with which you disagree, rather than guessing at facts.
 
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