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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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This isn't accurate

The officer follows him around the car, tries to pull his shirt back as he opens the door and shoots as he leans in the vehicle
I stand to be corrected . I wonder why he pulled his shirt half heartedly ? In some vain hope the bloke would turn around and then he'd get blasted from the front.
Most people lean into their vehicle in some way when they get in . The more I watch this , the more the excuses for the officer concerned make me wonder which planet some people are on.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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It is difficult to say for sure, but it does look like he reaches down into the drivers door for something. The problem is, and I've said this before, a lot of people do not understand the situation in America with guns. The police get shot at all the time and so I have no doubt in my mind here they were shooting to kill to extinguish any threat. They intended to take the threat down. No one can say he wasn't a threat either, there is clearly an argument to suggest he was at that point.

Had he dropped to the floor after one shot, I would imagine they wouldn't have kept shooting. As he was still seemingly on his feet and (perhaps) reaching for something, they kept on firing.

At the moment, no one knows what happened before hand, and no one knows the context of why he went to the vehicle, or what might have been in there. People just shout racist. If it was a white guy this wouldn't be making the news. There is a clear agenda getting in the way of facts and it is setting race relations back ten fold.
I did notice a pause in the firing after three or four shots. I suppose when you've shot someone that many times you may as well do it again.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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White knuckle?
Trigger finger.
It probably should have been 8 bullets but his finger slipped half(ish) way through.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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I'm not squirming whatsoever, you say 7 is too many how many times should that officer in that incident have shot the suspect if he feared his life was in danger... You tell me because 7 is too many so what's acceptable

How would an officer in this incident know that the person was paralysed, he had several seconds between start and finish

Obviously the expert in situations like this please afford me your expertise
That's one bullet per second roughly. Two bursts in about 4 seconds I reckon. The officer didn't even have time to check the damage after the first bullet.
If the first bullet had been fatal I reckon he'd still have put several bullets in. The bloke getting into the car wouldn't have hit the ground before another half dozen had been discharged.
 

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I stand to be corrected . I wonder why he pulled his shirt half heartedly ? In some vain hope the bloke would turn around and then he'd get blasted from the front.
Most people lean into their vehicle in some way when they get in . The more I watch this , the more the excuses for the officer concerned make me wonder which planet some people are on.
I'm wondering if I misread your earlier post. But. most certainly, I agree with this. Who could not.
 
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Anyone watching that C5 fly-on-the-wall series on Thursdays? Couple of plod stop a guy driving a van (no insurance) - similar type of thing, after getting out and arguing the toss tries to get back in his van, plod tries to stop him, he's gone for and produces a machette and slashes the copper quite a few times, blood everywhere. Manages to tazer him and a few passers by thankfully help but amazed the lad wasn't killed. I'd hate for our lot to be armed as a routine, but they all should be tazer trained as a minimum.
 

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The child genius strikes again

Daft thing to joke about never mind tweeting it to the public. I dare say he WAS joking but very unfunny and poor taste considering this has all evolved because someone got killed. No time for Cummings but can't really blame him for one of his outcasts reading the room wrong.
 

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Daft thing to joke about never mind tweeting it to the public. I dare say he WAS joking but very unfunny and poor taste considering this has all evolved because someone got killed. No time for Cummings but can't really blame him for one of his outcasts reading the room wrong.
It’s becoming a recurring theme though. At some point you’ve got to say Cummings read the room wrong employing weirdos and misfits. They’re doing exactly what they say on the tin afterall.
 

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Turns out Cummings isn't the genius forecaster he thinks he is.
 

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It’s becoming a recurring theme though. At some point you’ve got to say Cummings read the room wrong employing weirdos and misfits. They’re doing exactly what they say on the tin afterall.

Exactly this - you set the tone, and you are also responsible for your team.

I looked at the guy's linkedin profile. Usual thing - some dodgy qualifications, a history of nothing in particular jobs, and then all of a sudden, he's an expert in data architecture. Naturally, in the 4 mths he spent taking money from the Cabinet Office he achieved more things than you or I might achieve in our lifetime.

It was interesting to see that he was mainly employed on understanding how Cummings could get around data governance, which is exactly the type of thing he tried to do a few years back in the Dept of Education. Ultimately, GDPR mean you can't do that without having all manner of authorties (rightly) come crashing down on you. It just seems to be a personal ambition that has no strategic intent or aim. The guy is deluded and a waste of space. And if he acheives anything it will be for all the wrong reasons. Dangerous, destestable little man.
 
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2 LA sherrifs shot in the head in their vehicle for no reason in Compton by a black male...

You have to start questioning how much effect the anti police rhetoric in America Is having...
 

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2 LA sherrifs shot in the head in their vehicle for no reason in Compton by a black male...

You have to start questioning how much effect the anti police rhetoric in America Is having...
terrible incident, pre-meditated as well by the look of it.
Horrendous how people are trying to point score between this and the George Floyd incident over which is worse. They're both appalling and if they're happening in your country you need to have a good look at yourselves or you're going to end up with massive problems.
 
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