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Oh, one thing I'm proud of, is we'd give him the right to a fair trial, rather than shooting him in the back seven times before he had that chance to defend himself from accusations.
he will still be able to stand trial - well sit as he can’t walk anymore
 
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It's not relevant to if a country progresses or regresses too.

I'm proud, and privileged, to live in this country. There are a number of things we do better than many countries around the world... but that doesn't stop us regressing on occasion, and needing to draw attention to that to progress.
The list of countries I'd rather not live in is WAY bigger than the ones I would even in an ideal worl where I'd have no barriers to anywhere I liked.

I think we have a lot to shout about here, but we also have a lot that needs improvement. Over the last few years it's felt like we're going backward not forward chasing an American style vision based solely around money rather than a progressive approach based on a more rounded, holistic approach.
 
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I dont trust the media, I do however trust the court records
Jacob Blake had a long history of entanglement with law enforcement when he lived in Lake County.

Blake's shooting by police in Kenosha on Sunday sparked destructive riots in the Wisconsin city not far from the state border.

Records reveal Blake was arrested in 2013 in Round Lake Beach and criminal trespass to a vehicle and arrested in 2012 in Zion, Ill. for domestic battery, endangering the life and health of a child and driving under the influence.

Blake is currently facing a rape charge in Kenosha.

A warrant was issued for Blake’s arrest on July 7 on felony 3rd degree sexual assault, disorderly conduct and criminal trespass, all related to domestic abuse.

Blake has reportedly been paralyzed from the waist down after being shot eight times on Sunday by police who were answering a domestic abuse call.

The rape charge started circulating on Twitter this afternoon and was confirmed by a search of court records.
Where did you get the child rape bit from? The guy had a big record alright but that part seems to have been fact checked and proved false
 

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Give me Dallas over Switzerland everyday
 

Evo1883

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Where did you get the child rape bit from? The guy had a big record alright but that part seems to have been fact checked and proved false
You win on this one, it's mostly hear say on the age, most people saying 14 or 15 .. The warrant is 3rd degree sexual assault which includes rape and a maximum sentence of 40 years... He sounds like a thoroughly pleasant chap though... Definitely the sort you burn town's down in name of
 

Ring Of Steel

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You win on this one, it's mostly hear say on the age... The warrant is 3rd degree sexual assault which includes rape and a maximum sentence of 40 years
Its not "mostly hearsay", its false.

I'm not looking to 'win' anything & this guy had a big record, just highlighting the hypocrisy- you want to disbelieve & slate the media when it suits you ("its not Trump, its the media"), but then believe & use the media when it suits you ("he is a child rapist").
 
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Its not "mostly hearsay", its false.

I'm not looking to 'win' anything & this guy had a big record, just highlighting the hypocrisy- you want to disbelieve & slate the media when it suits you ("its not Trump, its the media"), but then believe & use the media when it suits you ("he is a child rapist").
He's a man up for sexual assault ..end of story
 

Evo1883

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Would you be ok if this had happened in England?

Don't know, different country, different culture...
It would be more shocking for that to happen here

I'm always happy for police to shoot to kill in the event of their life being endangered though

Even in the UK
 
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If we take out language barriers etc if it weren't for the cold,dark winters any of the Scandi countries ta very much.
You won’t find a language barrier with the majority of their populations, most people under 50 speak good English and a lot over 50 also. They’re also always happy to speak it. Depends on how far north you go in Scandinavia regarding the weather. I’ve been to Denmark numerous times and at different times of the year and it ain’t that different to most of the U.K. I’d actually say (opinion not fact) that it’s dryer given the British Isles take the brunt of the Gulf Stream. When it snows in Denmark it doesn’t mess around though, it snows. They’re well prepared for it though.
 

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Can you believe a go fund me has raised around a million pound for this man too
 

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They shot him in the back 7 times while he was opening a car door. Impressive that he could be endangering lives while not looking & with one hand out of action, no?
Reaching for a gun /knife? Maybe... Like most of the protestors and the Go fund me woke mob... You should wait for the facts yourself
 

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Reaching for a gun /knife? Maybe... Like most of the protestors and the Go fund me woke mob... You should wait for the facts yourself
The fact is they shot someone in the back 7 times at distance.

They are not allowed to shoot unless their is a threat to their lives which they could not know that that time.

Like most of the gammon wankers you should stick to facts
 
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Evo1883

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The fact is they shot someone in the back 7 times at distance.

They are not allowed to shoot unless their is a threat to their lives which they could not know that that time.

Like most of the gammon wankers you should stick to facts
He was standing behind him trying to pull him back from the car... The distance is inches close enough to be turned on and stabbed Infact or even shot(facts) .. Facts are you're defending a career criminal who had a warrant on him for sexual assault... Whose the wanker defending him? Not me mate
 
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He was standing behind him trying to ull him back from the car... The distance is inches close enough to be turned on and stabbed Infact or even shot... Facts are you're defending a career criminal who had a warrant on him for sexual assault... Whose the wanker defending him? Not me mate
No he's not, its about defending him, its about asking why the fuck the police are shooting people 7 times in the back

Can you honestly defend that, 7 times including one in the spine? I mean was it not obvious after the 2nd bullet that the guy was clearly no longer a "threat"? How about after the 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th shots?
 

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No he's not, its about defending him, its about asking why the fuck the police are shooting people 7 times in the back

Have you ever been in a situation where you need to decide what the correct thing to do is in an instant? In terms of life and death? You have no idea
 

Ring Of Steel

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Have you ever been in a situation where you need to decide what the correct thing to do is in an instant? In terms of life and death? You have no idea
I'm not trained to have to do that

The police are. And they still decided to shoot the guy 7 times
 

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I'm not trained to have to do that

The police are. And they still decided to shoot the guy 7 times
Comply? Quite simple... The moment you lean into your car whilst trying to be restrained is the moment you become a threat, in a part of America where you can carry guns.... No risks taken... Youre going down my friend
 

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Even if the guy is a criminal and was wanted its not an excuse to kill him. The US police aren't Judge Dredd.

If the police can't arrest someone without killing them in the numbers we are seeing in the US then clearly there is either something wrong with the training & procedures or the recruitment.
 

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Comply? Quite simple... The moment you lean into your car whilst trying to be restrained is the moment you become a threat, in a part of America where you can carry guns.... No risks taken... Youre going down my friend
7 bullets- you can't answer, you have no response to justify it. I could understand 1 of course, maybe 2, but 7? Who was this guy they were trying to arrest, Thanos?
 

Evo1883

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Even if the guy is a criminal and was wanted its not an excuse to kill him. The US police aren't Judge Dredd.

If the police can't arrest someone without killing them in the numbers we are seeing in the US then clearly there is either something wrong with the training & procedures or the recruitment.

I agree, but there will be a point where the balance tips and criminals hold more power than the law... They need to find the balance especially in a country where firearms are legal in many states
 

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7 bullets- you can't answer, you have no response to justify it. I could understand 1 of course, maybe 2, but 7? Who was this guy they were trying to arrest, Thanos?
how many bullets did our police put into the London Bridge terrorist? 1 will do surely?
 

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Do you think the officer involved waited for the facts to come out?
His job is to react to the situation, restraint failed, taser failed, leaned into his car whilst being pulled back... Youre getting shot