Do you want to discuss boring politics? (12 Viewers)

[SkyBlueDom26]

But you've just been saying that election fraud is a serious problem.

So which is it?

The mental gymnastics you people go through to defend your ridiculous positions

The only chance labour have of winning the elections is through fraud lol no wonder you don’t want voter ID

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The only chance labour have of winning the elections is through fraud lol no wonder you don’t want voter ID

So Welsh Labour carried out nationwide fraud this week?

 

[PVA]

The only chance labour have of winning the elections is through fraud lol no wonder you don’t want voter ID

Utter imbecile.

You literally haven't got a clue what you're talking about

 

[clint van damme]

Utter imbecile.

You literally haven't got a clue what you're talking about

I've got solared powered garden lights brighter than Dom.

 

[PVA]

I've got soared powered garden lights brighter than Dom.

Have you got ID cards for them though?

 

[Liquid Gold]

Cry some more, tories are here to stay

Ba’athist

 

[It’sabatch87]

But isn't he a university educated private school snotty metropolitan elite?
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And his Mrs was the daughter of Tony booth

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

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So how does that fix the problem? Or is it more likely that doffing the cap to an affable clown who tells jokes to your face but robs you when your back's turned is just a tough habit to kick?

 

[Philosorapter]

I hope everyone is ashamed of themselves.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I hope everyone is ashamed of themselves.

Well two came round here to try and make us feel ashamed.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I hope everyone is ashamed of themselves.

Labour should be ashamed of themselves for being useless

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Labour should be ashamed of themselves for being useless

I heard they were getting dead people to vote for them in Wales

 

[Skybluefaz]

Labour should be ashamed of themselves for being useless

 

[PVA]

Labour should be ashamed of themselves for being useless

But how can they compete in these fraudulent elections?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

But how can they compete in these fraudulent elections?

Only way labour would win would be with fraud....no wonder you shit yourself at the idea of voter ID

 

[Ian1779]

Only way labour would win would be with fraud....no wonder you shit yourself at the idea of voter ID

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

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What Kiers office currently looks like

 

[Evo1883]

Not backing Brexit is ultimately what cost them - a lot of their policies are generally popular.

It's a part of a variety of problems .

Labour last won an election 16 years ago , brexit referendum was 5 years ago

 

[PVA]

Only way labour would win would be with fraud....no wonder you shit yourself at the idea of voter ID

Then why don't they? If it's so easy like you say, they can win every election via fraud.

Or is that what the tories are doing, they're just better at fraud than Labour?

 

[skybluetony176]

OK, well a couple of points

1. Voter fraud occurs at such a low rate it's virtually non-existent. Why invest money and resources into a problem that doesn't exist?
2. Usually the ID required is harder to obtain for certain demographics. Why make it more difficult to take part in elections instead of easier?

The answer probably lies in that Boris has seen the Republicans use it to suppress the Democratic vote in certain American states.

Certain demographics also. It’s long been a suppressor of the black vote because black people don’t trust the authorities. We’re seeing that in the U.K. with vaccine take up. The Tories want this to suppress the vote of people who wouldn’t normally vote Tory, black people making up a big section of that.

 

[wingy]

Like they need it FFS.
It's cool enough to keep changing the boundaries increasing the intake etc.
Bring it on we're monitored 24/7 , vaccine passports for everyone everywhere while we're at it.
Can't wait till I we're all chipped tbf.

 

[skybluetony176]

The only chance labour have of winning the elections is through fraud lol no wonder you don’t want voter ID

So you don’t think bringing in measures to suppress the vote in demographics least likely to vote for you is fraud? It’s a slippery slope.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Looool being too left wing cost them with Corbyn, some people will never learn

Moving to the right under Starmer has resulted in even more losses.

So go left, lose. Move to the centre, lose. Labour could literally put anyone forward and there are people that would say they couldn't vote for them because of that particular person. Given some of the complete nonsense that people are falling for (Labour have cut services despite the budget being set by the Tories, having more foodbanks being a good thing, Labour treat us like we're stupid but i voted for a party who have openly called us stupid). If people are falling for this spin then there is absolutely no hope for the country until the Tories are so far in control they is literally no-one else to blame. Even then I'm sure some would say it's Labour's fault for not stopping it despite not having the numbers to do so).

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There's no need.
There have been numerous election and referendums recently with no suggestion of an issue.
There would have been an unusually high number of postal and proxy votes Thursday because of covid and there was no issue. Its pointless.

The money it would cost could be put to far better use.

No it couldn't. Those Tory donors and mates need their public funding fix.

 

[jimmyhillsfanclub]

Khalid Mahmood summed up labour's problem...."a London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors"

Depressing....and it will continue with Keith the nowhere man "in charge".

Govt are thieving morally bankrupt cunts. Opposition are spinless useless cunts. Just glad I'm drunk

 

[David O'Day]

So Rayner to Shadow Cab office (opposite Gove)

Reeves to Shadow Chancellor

What were folk saying about KS getting rid of working class women?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

It is a good idea, if you think otherwise then you ain’t got a clue

OK. The cost of introducing Voter ID cards would be tens of billions if not more. All to stop at best a couple of fraudulent votes. Good spend of public money.

If voter fraud was a big issue, I'd agree. it's not, so it's a waste of money and clearly nothing but a tactic to supress voting in those people that are far less likely to vote for them. That is not democracy.

Unless we bring in a law saying the metric used for ID is dental records and then it'd be unfortunate for all those elderly people that have lost theres and so couldn't vote. Fair?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Hardly stopping them, go get an ID card

Cost. Tories wouldn't do it for free. Poor have enough (not) on their plate right now to be spaffing money on a card to vote, so probably just wouldn't bother voting. Also less likely to drive or need a passport and so have those. Minorities also are massively affected more than others when it comes to obtaining one due to numerous barriers.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Certainly done very well with the vaccines, that’s why he’s took so many seats in the local elections

1 thing right, dozens wrong (including stuff that for a Labour leader would see them hounded out of politics). Not just shit policy but obvious corruption, lying and probably breaking the law (again).

The reason we had these elections this year and not last is because of the massive fuck-ups he made in pandemic planning. But let's fucking forget the shitstorm of stuff we got wrong eh. We got one thing right!

 

[Ian1779]

So Rayner to Shadow Cab office (opposite Gove)

Reeves to Shadow Chancellor

What were folk saying about KS getting rid of working class women?

Rayner’s is a pretend job... that’s why Boris gave the real equivalent to Gove.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So Rayner to Shadow Cab office (opposite Gove)

Reeves to Shadow Chancellor

What were folk saying about KS getting rid of working class women?

Does the average voter give a toss about who's in the shadow cabinet?

 

[Grendel]

Rayner’s is a pretend job... that’s why Boris gave the real equivalent to Gove.

That job title is hilarious.

 

[David O'Day]

Rayner’s is a pretend job... that’s why Boris gave the real equivalent to Gove.

It's a pretend job that has existed with a well defined role for 24 years?

It's a more senior, more public front office role.

 

[Ian1779]

That job title is hilarious.

Something something, and a bit nicked from
Waitrose.