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Are you saying I should just vote and not say what I mean?

If the club continue with sisu in charges it will still be alive. So it will not be dead. The history will still be there. We have changed stadium before. The club didn't die. Every time a major change or crisis happens people think the world has come to an end. Hasn't happened yet. It's a...

Let's see ... there were initialy five sisu adminstrated funds, then ARVO plus SBS&L plus Holdings. That's eight. Wasn't PH4 supposed to make a bid?

If they lose the club they won't be suing fans ...

I totally agree that sisu/Fisher are to blame for their inabillity to build a honest rapport with the fans! I have said that numerous times, but am happy to repeat it. But it doesn't alter my opionion that the Trust should keep their cool and not enter into open war with the owners of the club...

Oh my, and I have just in another thread lectured PSGM1 about the Trust having to be diplomatic in their approach. If sisu are given the Golden Share and continue as owners, the Trust will not be able to liaison between the club and the fans. In moments of panic the Trust have a leading role...

Higgs charity???

When so many posters quietly tell you that you have discovered what we have all known all along, why don't you sit back and take a deep breath and think they may be right? Yes, the club is in administration. Yes the club (limited) did hold the golden share. Absolutely nothing new. But you are...

Who? The three on the floor?

Yes, so much has been said by either side that it is impossible to grasp it all. PWKH - if you were invited to a face-to-face debate with Tim Fisher, organised and moderated by the Trust, would you accept?

Yes, but what Fisher say is: He doesn't say specifically 'Higgs' shares ... and he refers to CCC, not the charity. So you can both be right. There were possibly no deal to buy Higgs shares. Sisu possibly made a deal with CCC to buy half of ACL (the ccc shares) and an agreement was signed. As...

I think the 'handshake' was reported by ACL. But I also think the 'goodbye' meaning was suggested on this board (Paxman?) - I can't remember Fisher even commenting on it. Might have missed it though.

PSGM1 would do it for free ... if it would be certain to prove Fisher is lying. But it could backfire, so I doubt he will risk it.

When ACL claimed it was ccfc who renerged on the agreement nobody asked them to substantiate their claim. So why should there be different rules? Anyway, if such a signed document exists it will surely be included in the filings to the court.

Will the real Tim Fisher please stand up!

Why don't you ask Mutton or PWKH? Surely if it is a signed document they can remember signing it. It is probably amongst the documents filed to the court by sisu.

Or someone could ask Mutton! Or PWKH.

Thay could build a 14k stadium from start. That should suffice even in the unlikely event that we got promoted. Next season's wage cap won't be based on 3k crowds ... that would be the season after (assuming you're right the crowd will drop that low). Yet there are ways to counter lost incrome...

I know about FFP :-) But there are players earning more than their performance justify! We haven't really been told what capacity they are planning, only that they are looking to use the construction principle from Rotherham. That is not the same as saying it will only have a capacity of 12k...

I just want to reply to 4 and 5: 4: While the rent row has been going on I agree there has been little correlation between what's been said and what has happened. But as I have during all this mess been very critical against ACL I have a biased view and think the actions of ccc and ACL have...