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He will be gone the second sisu regain control of Limited.

Well, you know what I think, but let me ask you this: When (if) the scenario you paint happens - How will ACL react? Will they try to negotiate a new lease? Will they negotiate a sell of ACL to SBS&L? Or will they shut the curtains for the club and try to prove they can be profitable anyway...

Lol - I don't think it was a question ...

When a buyer is found ACL will be open to negotiations. If sisu wins those negotiations will cost ACL dearly. Either ACL becomes a company under SBS&L or they lose all business from the club. Very expensive however you look at it. And it will most likely require new faces at the ACL side of the...

Is that even possible? It's an auction ... I don't think you can 'condition' a bid.

Nah - it's a typing error. He actually said 'Joy's Administrator'.

People read the statement and try to make it fit to their own agenda. It's a very clever statement - it's tailor fit to all agenda's, without saying anything important. Execpt the line extracted by the OP: This is what should be discussed. FIRST I select a buyer. Only THEN will I deal with...

It won't be called Fisher Areana, but Stadium of Joy.

I seem to remember there was some talk about the club wanting a get-out or break possibility to the lease. It was probably around that time, so maybe the February negotiations was more an attempt to get the lease shortned to fit the timescale for building a new stadium? If that is the case it...

It's not so much if spin is beliveable or not - it's the use of spin to sway away from speaking of other things. To turn attention to other subjects. I have said a few times that ACL are winning (have won) the PR battle. They are capable and willing to use all media to get close to the fans of...

Maybe because he only has access to the same information we have ...

Yes, that is what I remember too. Isn't it interesting that it's the same amount that the administrator has listed as debt to ACL. So it seem to be a stretch to say 'reduced to'. There were no rebate on the arrears in their offer, but somehow we were made to believe there was.

Ofcourse you would say that, because labeling a fellow fan, who happens to think a little different from you as a sisu rent boy, is much more important than where we will be playing next season - and maybe every season beyond that. But in answer to your misdirectional question: I have always...

By 'you' you mean ACL in their statement - and of course they have every right to use sisu's own spin against them. But the statement from ACL is still spin of their making, and as such it derserves just as much critical attention as if it came from Fisher ... or any other stakeholder! Spin is...

Your math doesn't direct my question - why are people quick to react to the spin from sisu, but blindly accept the spin from ACL? If we are only critical towards one of the stakeholders in this farce, we will surely be screwed by another! And your math is probably correct. But you leave out...

You say people do not blindly accept ACL's spin. And then back your statement with a sisu spin ... Wouldn't it have proved your point if you had quoted a ACL spin and a post where you react critically to that?

I suspect ACL are fully aware that the club have never lost £70m over the past few years. They know - as do those who read OSB and skybluesquirrel's financial analysis that sisu have only injected something like £30m - and it could even be lower than that. They are also fully aware that funding...

Alternatively you could read the text in the original post. I have highlighted what could answer your question: Edit: And now the thread has been merged and the text is no longer the original post, but post #8

The Higgs shares in ACL are for sale - They own 50% of ACL. If the club (under any owner) buys those shares the club would own 50% of ACL - with ccc owning the remaing 50%. ACL are a management company - they do not own the stadium as a physical unit. The bricks and mortar is owned solely by...

Well, I would settle for the cashflow for the group as a whole.