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shmmeee

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,451
Source on IQ going up over generations:

Flynn effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,452
shmmeee said:
I don’t think grammar is an indicator of much other than grammar TBH. Language standards have definitely changed over the last twenty years thanks to the advent of internationalism, spell check and text based communication though.

I did used to teach, and I think there’s many problems with education. I just also think people have been making these claims for generations and yet IQ scores keep going up and I don’t see why education wouldn’t benefit like every other industry from modernisation.
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Are phones allowed in lessons? If not then it is down to what restrictions teachers are put under. They shouldn't need any kind of spell checker if taught properly.

IQ tests? They have only taken off with the invention of the Internet.
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,453
shmmeee said:
Source on IQ going up over generations:

Flynn effect - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org
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From your link

Some research suggests that there may be an ongoing reversed Flynn effect, i.e. a decline in IQ scores, in Norway, Denmark, Australia, Britain, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, and German-speaking countries,[4] a development which appears to have started in the 1990s,[5][6][7][8] but in certain cases an apparent reversal is due to cultural changes making parts of intelligence tests obsolete.[9] Meta-analyses indicate that overall, the Flynn effect continues either at the same rate[10] or at a slower rate in developed countries.[11][12]
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,454
Dog said:
Are phones allowed in lessons? If not then it is down to what restrictions teachers are put under. They shouldn't need any kind of spell checker if taught properly.

IQ tests? They have only taken off with the invention of the Internet.
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Um, that study goes back to 1948 but OK.

I think you may be suffering from what’s technically called “getting old”

How’s your horse shoeing skills?

What’s needed changes over time. We have spelling and grammar checks on most writing devices. It’s really not that important. That said my kids know what a hanging participle or whatever is and I’ve no clue as it wasn’t in trend when I was at school.

I taught Computing so yeah kids did have spell check and were graded on their ability to use it.

The kids are alright man. They’re taking less drugs, getting pregnant less, achieving more, because we as a society keep progressing. Skills in outdated things dropping off is natural.

Did you know people complained when chalk and slate was brought into education because they feared it would stop kids being able to memorise things?
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,455
Dog said:
From your link

Some research suggests that there may be an ongoing reversed Flynn effect, i.e. a decline in IQ scores, in Norway, Denmark, Australia, Britain, the Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, and German-speaking countries,[4] a development which appears to have started in the 1990s,[5][6][7][8] but in certain cases an apparent reversal is due to cultural changes making parts of intelligence tests obsolete.[9] Meta-analyses indicate that overall, the Flynn effect continues either at the same rate[10] or at a slower rate in developed countries.[11][12]
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Ill take meta analysis of a topic over “some studies”.
 

COV

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,456
Dog said:
Are phones allowed in lessons? If not then it is down to what restrictions teachers are put under. They shouldn't need any kind of spell checker if taught properly.

IQ tests? They have only taken off with the invention of the Internet.
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IQ tests have been around a lot longer than that, and some of the smartest (and richest) people I’ve ever met are terrible spellers... and couldn’t care less
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,457
shmmeee said:
Um, that study goes back to 1948 but OK.

I think you may be suffering from what’s technically called “getting old”

How’s your horse shoeing skills?

What’s needed changes over time. We have spelling and grammar checks on most writing devices. It’s really not that important. That said my kids know what a hanging participle or whatever is and I’ve no clue as it wasn’t in trend when I was at school.

I taught Computing so yeah kids did have spell check and were graded on their ability to use it.

The kids are alright man. They’re taking less drugs, getting pregnant less, achieving more, because we as a society keep progressing. Skills in outdated things dropping off is natural.

Did you know people complained when chalk and slate was brought into education because they feared it would stop kids being able to memorise things?
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The link you put up says research shows our IQ levels have gone down since the 90's. Strangely enough I said about the last 25 years and not 75 years.
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,458
shmmeee said:
Ill take meta analysis of a topic over “some studies”.
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Looks like you will take anything that backs you up until someone points out what you link to says the opposite
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,459
COV said:
IQ tests have been around a lot longer than that, and some of the smartest (and richest) people I’ve ever met are terrible spellers... and couldn’t care less
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Do you know the meaning of irony?

So a lot longer than what?
 

JAM See

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,460
shmmeee said:
Um, that study goes back to 1948 but OK.

I think you may be suffering from what’s technically called “getting old”

How’s your horse shoeing skills?

What’s needed changes over time. We have spelling and grammar checks on most writing devices. It’s really not that important. That said my kids know what a hanging participle or whatever is and I’ve no clue as it wasn’t in trend when I was at school.

I taught Computing so yeah kids did have spell check and were graded on their ability to use it.

The kids are alright man. They’re taking less drugs, getting pregnant less, achieving more, because we as a society keep progressing. Skills in outdated things dropping off is natural.

Did you know people complained when chalk and slate was brought into education because they feared it would stop kids being able to memorise things?
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I'm generally aligned mate. The kids ARE alright and they're probably better behaved and more socially aware than us oldies

But...Ed Sheeran. Which generation is responsible for that?
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,461
JAM See said:
I'm generally aligned mate. The kids ARE alright and they're probably better behaved and more socially aware than us oldies

But...Ed Sheeran. Which generation is responsible for that?
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How many juveniles used to commit murder at the time you speak of? It is nearly a daily occurrence now.
 

JAM See

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,462
Dog said:
How many juveniles used to commit murder at the time you speak of? It is nearly a daily occurrence now.
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Citation please.
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,463
JAM See said:
Citation please.
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James Markham murder: Chingford father was 'hardworking and kind'

James Markham, 45, was killed after confronting a group of youths outside his home.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

JAM See

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,464
Dog said:

James Markham murder: Chingford father was 'hardworking and kind'

James Markham, 45, was killed after confronting a group of youths outside his home.
www.bbc.co.uk
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This Town: Chronicling the Racial Tensions in Coventry

August 1981: The Face examines the areas where conflict has caused fear and segregation from marginalised groups, as well as tackling the root cause.
theface.com

What is your point? I can shoot anecdotes back at you, but Shmmee's point is still valid. The kids ARE alright, and after all, they are the future.
 
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COV

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,465
JAM See said:

This Town: Chronicling the Racial Tensions in Coventry

August 1981: The Face examines the areas where conflict has caused fear and segregation from marginalised groups, as well as tackling the root cause.
theface.com

What is your point? I can shoot anecdotes back at you, but Schmmee's point is still valid. The kids ARE alright, and after all, they are the future.
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dead right
 

Dog

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,466
JAM See said:

This Town: Chronicling the Racial Tensions in Coventry

August 1981: The Face examines the areas where conflict has caused fear and segregation from marginalised groups, as well as tackling the root cause.
theface.com

What is your point? I can shoot anecdotes back at you, but Shmmee's point is still valid. The kids ARE alright, and after all, they are the future.
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This is why I don't normally put posts up anywhere.

So the rioters were juveniles?

Have I said the kids are NOT OK? No. But you want to make out things have been said that haven't.

The murders by the youth of today happen all the time. But already people like yourself want to wipe them from history.

What I did say was the standard of education these days is of a lower grade than previous. I have dealt with school leavers for about 25 years. How about you?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 12, 2021
  • #9,467
Dog
 

ccfc92

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,468
Betting companies not offering odds on players booked.

Surely if you know teamsheet and odds on first scorer, you can offer odds on bookings?

Also, not all markets available on popular leagues like championship, L1 etc.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,469
ccfc92 said:
Betting companies not offering odds on players booked.

Surely if you know teamsheet and odds on first scorer, you can offer odds on bookings?

Also, not all markets available on popular leagues like championship, L1 etc.
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When the fun stops, stop mate.
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,470
ccfc92 said:
Betting companies not offering odds on players booked.

Surely if you know teamsheet and odds on first scorer, you can offer odds on bookings?

Also, not all markets available on popular leagues like championship, L1 etc.
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Bet365 do.

Bookings were my go to bet at the Euros and turned out to be profitable.
 

ccfc92

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,471
LastGarrison said:
Bet365 do.

Bookings were my go to bet at the Euros and turned out to be profitable.
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Yeah that's what I mean, even bet365 only do the high profile games. Specific players to be booked is often missing
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,472
ccfc92 said:
Yeah that's what I mean, even bet365 only do the high profile games. Specific players to be booked is often missing
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Maybe they are concerned about bet rigging for ome matches. Old lag looking for a last big payday?
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,473
Erm, there's a woman being interviewed from Afghanistan on BBC now who cannot Go five words without .
 
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skyblueinBaku

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,474
wingy said:
Erm, theirs a woman being interviewed from Afghanistan on BBC now who cannot Go five words without .
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Without what? *Not "theirs", but "there's".
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 13, 2021
  • #9,475
skyblueindorset said:
Without what? *Not "theirs", but "there's".
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Without saying if you can call it saying Erm.
I will edit the error thanks.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,476
People who hold their nose when they jump into water.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,477
LastGarrison said:
People who hold their nose when they jump into water.
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Pretty niche.
 

usskyblue

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,478
 
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LastGarrison

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,479
Skybluefaz said:
Pretty niche.
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We’ve found our first one.
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,480
LastGarrison said:
We’ve found our first one.
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Ha ha, its been that long since I was last in a pool I probably would!
 
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Greggs

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,481
Marty said:
Some are proper twats though, go out for a quiet meal with a bird and you have a bunch of feral kids running round making a racket. Maybe that's a problem with the parents though.

Kids should be like women, seen and not heard.
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Hahahaha
 

Greggs

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,482
covmark said:
People who pick their dog shit up in a plastic bag. Then discard the bag, in the field, with the shit in it. What's the fucking point. Shit is biodegradable. The plastic bag you've just cleaned that shit up with, is not.

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You need to learn the fake pick up. I've been using the same shit bag for months!
 
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Greggs

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,483
Fat birds in leggings
 
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JAM See

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,484
Greggs said:
Fat birds in leggings
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All birds? Including owls?
 
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Sbarcher

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  • Aug 14, 2021
  • #9,485
Greggs said:
Fat birds in leggings
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Could be the lesser of two evils though!
 
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