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So we can show her how it's done, no?
That is a strategy utterly alien to Joy Seppala.
So we can show her how it's done, no?
That is a strategy utterly alien to Joy Seppala.
Unfortunately it means not supporting SISU at the short term expense of not supporting the team.
The majority of fans have realised this yet the minority will not unite with this majority.
Well you did say earlier the minority were the ones who blamed SISU...
So you are saying that because there is a minority and majority everybody should just agree with the majority? I don't get it. People can still respect other people's views without abusing it at one end of the scale and then agreeing with it just because the majority think it at the other end.
I agree people should work together but it is about compromise and discussion rather than hatred and abuse. (from either direction) If people won't go in the ground you can't force them, the same as you can't force them to stay out, so find a way around it.
This whole "I am in the majority so you are being divisive as you don't do as I say" is bullshit.
So you are saying that because there is a minority and majority everybody should just agree with the majority? I don't get it. People can still respect other people's views without abusing it at one end of the scale and then agreeing with it just because the majority think it at the other end.
I agree people should work together but it is about compromise and discussion rather than hatred and abuse. (from either direction) If people won't go in the ground you can't force them, the same as you can't force them to stay out, so find a way around it.
This whole "I am in the majority so you are being divisive as you don't do as I say" is bullshit.
Just food for thought, as the minority are so certain of their opinion, surely they can risk going along with the majority?
Surely as a democratic society, those in the minority follow the majority, and then if the majority are proved wrong, the minority can be smug about it?
Just food for thought, as the minority are so certain of their opinion, surely they can risk going along with the majority?
So you are saying that because there is a minority and majority everybody should just agree with the majority? I don't get it. People can still respect other people's views without abusing it at one end of the scale and then agreeing with it just because the majority think it at the other end.
I agree people should work together but it is about compromise and discussion rather than hatred and abuse. (from either direction) If people won't go in the ground you can't force them, the same as you can't force them to stay out, so find a way around it.
This whole "I am in the majority so you are being divisive as you don't do as I say" is bullshit.
No because she doesn't care!So we can show her how it's done, no?
So with so many variations of where we stand how the hell are we to stand together.
There will always be a divide, but in a democratic society this is overcome by everybody accepting to go with the majority.
It's not 100% but it provides stability and is the only method of concluding a problem.
Otherwise you go round in circles.
If Sisu run a vote on who wants to be at Sixfields and who wants to be at the Ricoh regardless of Ricoh ownership it would be 99,9% in favour of the Ricoh.
So please answer .... why are we at Sixfields?
So what happens if one day 49 people think SISU are bad and 50 think they are good and then the next day 2 people change their mind to bad, should everybody then change their mind just because the majority do? What rubbish.
There will always be a divide, but in a democratic society this is overcome by everybody accepting to go with the majority.
It's not 100% but it provides stability and is the only method of concluding a problem.
Otherwise you go round in circles.
If Sisu run a vote on who wants to be at Sixfields and who wants to be at the Ricoh regardless of Ricoh ownership it would be 99,9% in favour of the Ricoh.
So please answer .... why are we at Sixfields?
More like 99% think SISU are wrong, 10% can live with it and attend Sixfields.
It will never be anywhere near 50% so it's a rubbish scenario for us.
The divide isn't caused by people having different opinions, it is how the difference of opinions are dealt with.
This isn't a government here, people aren't voting for new owners to come in. It is people's own personal opinions we are talking about, they aren't suddenly going to change because somebody demands it because they are a minority are they? 7 of my mates might support Man Utd, 2 Coventry. Doesn't mean I am going to support Man Utd too does it?
How do we know if they don't try it ?
How do we know if they don't try it ?
You keep defending the indefensibly. Sisu are wrong. 99% agree and 10% can live with it.
So we can show her how it's done, no?
Christ that's depressing. And inaccurate i think. Your great aspiration is to behave like a sheep? I tell you what, lets go around in circles... Anything but your nightmarish vision of compliance.
It's life in this country. Less than 50% support the conservatives yet they are the majority party and have the main say in running this country.
Fortunately you get another go after a few years and can judge them on their actions whilst in charge.
However people accept it, continue to vent their views, but accept it.
Exactly.
It's life in this country. Less than 50% support the conservatives yet they are the majority party and have the main say in running this country.
I'm surprised you're interested in this. There's no assured outcome from setting her an example and I know you're not interested in trying anything that doesn't have an assured outcome, like protesting about not playing home games in Coventry for instance.
I'm surprised you're interested in this. There's no assured outcome from setting her an example and I know you're not interested in trying anything that doesn't have an assured outcome, like protesting about not playing home games in Coventry for instance.
The divide isn't caused by people having different opinions, it is how the difference of opinions are dealt with.
This isn't a government here, people aren't voting for new owners to come in. It is people's own personal opinions we are talking about, they aren't suddenly going to change because somebody demands it because they are a minority are they? 7 of my mates might support Man Utd, 2 Coventry. Doesn't mean I am going to support Man Utd too does it?
So what happens if one day 49 people think SISU are bad and 50 think they are good and then the next day 2 people change their mind to bad, should everybody then change their mind just because the majority do? What rubbish.
There isn't a divide. After Wednesday night there aren't enough non protesting fans to be classed as a divide. Your camp are a fringe element at best.
I think you missed the point. As usual.
What is "my camp"? It is shit like that that doesn't help
I could counter that by pointing out we haven't treid my favoured choice of packing the ground, and all sodding off after 35 minutes, either...
What is "my camp"? It is shit like that that doesn't help
It's life in this country. Less than 50% support the conservatives yet they are the majority party and have the main say in running this country.
Fortunately you get another go after a few years and can judge them on their actions whilst in charge.
However people accept it, continue to vent their views, but accept it.
Rubbish Nick most of us are working class lads brought up in working class areas of the City.Or because it stops fans looking silly for going mental about how SISU act and then justify it when fans do the same because "SISU do it".
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