The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (13 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

I am of the view that it should be more important that the skills are needed than the passport that is held.

I’m not sure that there’s a skills shortage in racist.

 

[Grendel]

No it’s Dutchman throwing the word Soros in when he is under pressure. You are historically way off as usual. No idea what you are on about, just throw some crap out.

Senile and bitter. Will you be joining Tommy and Batten on their modern day fascist march against the Great Brexit Betrayal? You’ll probably meet many of your extreme leaver mates there.

There I’ve taken you off ignore for moment as I knew you’d be denying your absurd claims about Soros.

You’ve claimed he wants to “preserve democracy and western values” - he’s a revolting money speculator who gains from other people’s misery - no more no less but as he espouses your version of “democracy”. I.e centralisation of decision making from the many to the very few he can do anything and you’ll follow him.

If Robinson and Bannon were Pro Eu you’d be dribbling and gushing praise all over them like you have Soros

You bought Soros up 27 times on this thread

https://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/the-eu-in-out-shake-it-all-about.65640/page-419#post-1547714

 

[martcov]

There I’ve taken you off ignore for moment as I knew you’d be denying your absurd claims about Soros.

You’ve claimed he wants to “preserve democracy and western values” - he’s a revolting money speculator who gains from other people’s misery - no more no less but as he espouses your version of “democracy”. I.e centralisation of decision making from the many to the very few he can do anything and you’ll follow him.

If Robinson and Bannon were Pro Eu you’d be dribbling and gushing praise all over them like you have Soros

You bought Soros up 27 times on this thread

The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

No I didn’t. I reacted to people bringing Soros up. I have never brought Soros up. Why don’t you list the people bringing Soros up? Or count how many times you brought Soros up?

 

[martcov]

You have a short memory

The unmasking of the overrated Martin Selmayr | Eamonn Fitzgerald: Rainy Day

Here we go again..... his grandfather was in the Weimar Republik as well.., and he was a civil servant not a financier or member of Hitler’s cabinet.. and Selmayr doesn‘t sponsor right wing parties or newspapers. But you don’t care. Just throw Selmayr in when someone beat you to it with Soros.

 

[martcov]

This is your problem SB. Everything is either black or white. If you are an immigrant or descend from immigrants you must love the EU and everything it stands for. If you have family living elsewhere in the EU it is the same. You are not allowed to have any sort of view that can go against this. You are not allowed to bring up any subject that can be twisted against any of this. Your blood must be blue with starts in it.

But in the real world it is seen as good news by many immigrants


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I am of the view that it should be more important that the skills are needed than the passport that is held. Close family should also be allowed to join those already here. It shouldn't be the passport held that decides nearly everything.

Yes. Wait til someone start to try and sift people from our neighbours out. It won’t end well. It would be easier to say EU citizens through a reciprocal deal and non EU on a stricter basis including highly skilled.

 

[martcov]

There I’ve taken you off ignore for moment as I knew you’d be denying your absurd claims about Soros.

You’ve claimed he wants to “preserve democracy and western values” - he’s a revolting money speculator who gains from other people’s misery - no more no less but as he espouses your version of “democracy”. I.e centralisation of decision making from the many to the very few he can do anything and you’ll follow him.

If Robinson and Bannon were Pro Eu you’d be dribbling and gushing praise all over them like you have Soros

You bought Soros up 27 times on this thread

The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

I haven’t gushed praise over Soros. I said his donation was open and well publicised as opposed to dark money on the leave side.

You say „if“ Bannon etc were pro EU. They wouldn’t be. Fascism has a problem with the EU, it was grounded to prevent fascism, so you can speculate all you want, but basically you’re talking crap. As usual.

 

[martcov]

This is your problem SB. Everything is either black or white. If you are an immigrant or descend from immigrants you must love the EU and everything it stands for. If you have family living elsewhere in the EU it is the same. You are not allowed to have any sort of view that can go against this. You are not allowed to bring up any subject that can be twisted against any of this. Your blood must be blue with starts in it.

But in the real world it is seen as good news by many immigrants


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I am of the view that it should be more important that the skills are needed than the passport that is held. Close family should also be allowed to join those already here. It shouldn't be the passport held that decides nearly everything.

Are you in favour of the close family members of Syrian refugees being allowed into Europe?

 

[martcov]

There I’ve taken you off ignore for moment as I knew you’d be denying your absurd claims about Soros.

You’ve claimed he wants to “preserve democracy and western values” - he’s a revolting money speculator who gains from other people’s misery - no more no less but as he espouses your version of “democracy”. I.e centralisation of decision making from the many to the very few he can do anything and you’ll follow him.

If Robinson and Bannon were Pro Eu you’d be dribbling and gushing praise all over them like you have Soros

You bought Soros up 27 times on this thread

The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

I see you’re not answering the question as to whether you are joining the Great Brexit Betrayal March with your leaver mates?

 

[Astute]

Are you in favour of the close family members of Syrian refugees being allowed into Europe?

If they are here legally then yes for wife/husband/young children. But no to an 80 year old that wants to bring in children, their partner, their children,their partners and so on.

 

[Astute]

Yes. Wait til someone start to try and sift people from our neighbours out. It won’t end well. It would be easier to say EU citizens through a reciprocal deal and non EU on a stricter basis including highly skilled.

Why would it?

 

[martcov]

Why would it?

Because millions people from Europe will come on a tourist visa and some will duck under. How do you control that without upsetting tourist trade? A couple of million EU citizens that are here will have family anyway. Some others will come in a camper and travel around until they find a niche. It will be hard to control them. It will be costly and ineffective. Which is why we didn’t apply the 3 months rule anyway. Migration from Eastern Europe will slow as other countries become wealthier and more attractive compared to Brexit Britain. Who’s going to want to come to a country with Tommy Robinson and his thugs on the streets? Not very welcoming. Let’s see how his demo goes. Even Farage is appalled. He created the monster, now he’s getting worried.... Tough.

 

[martcov]

If they are here legally then yes for wife/husband/young children. But no to an 80 year old that wants to bring in children, their partner, their children,their partners and so on.

How many 80 year old Syrian refugees do you think made it to Europe?

 

[Astute]

Because millions people from Europe will come on a tourist visa and some will duck under. How do you control that without upsetting tourist trade? A couple of million EU citizens that are here will have family anyway. Some others will come in a camper and travel around until they find a niche. It will be hard to control them. It will be costly and ineffective. Which is why we didn’t apply the 3 months rule anyway. Migration from Eastern Europe will slow as other countries become wealthier and more attractive compared to Brexit Britain. Who’s going to want to come to a country with Tommy Robinson and his thugs on the streets? Not very welcoming. Let’s see how his demo goes. Even Farage is appalled. He created the monster, now he’s getting worried.... Tough.

So illegal then.

 

[CCFCSteve]

How many 80 year old Syrian refugees do you think made it to Europe?

Don’t know but if they did make it they’re probably being taught in one of our primary schools !!!! :emoji_joy:

 

[Astute]

How many 80 year old Syrian refugees do you think made it to Europe?

How many baited questions do you come out with a day where you can have a go at the reply whatever it is?

Thought I would have a look as there were several posts on this page but none were showing. Remember why I blocked you now. You have an agenda. Nothing else.

 

[martcov]

How many baited questions do you come out with a day where you can have a go at the reply whatever it is?

Thought I would have a look as there were several posts on this page but none were showing. Remember why I blocked you now. You have an agenda. Nothing else.

And that agenda is? Apart questioning things you and people like Grendel throw out without a care whether they are right or wrong.

 

[Astute]

And that agenda is? Apart questioning things you and people like Grendel throw out without a care whether they are right or wrong.

Like what?

Explain to me why people from war torn countries....especially those who got affected because of Bliar.....or those who have the skills that we need should be behind those with an EU passport whatever their skills or reasons are.

 

[martcov]

So illegal then.

If they cannot be controlled maybe.

 

[martcov]

Like what?

Explain to me why people from war torn countries....especially those who got affected because of Bliar.....or those who have the skills that we need should be behind those with an EU passport whatever their skills or reasons are.

Is that actually happening? Is there a queue where refugees are refused
entry on the basis that we only accept EU citizens? There is no queue at the moment as there is no quota. There maybe after Brexit.

 

[Astute]

If they cannot be controlled maybe.

So we're you talking about the tourist trade or those who want to come and stay illegally?

 

[Astute]

Is that actually happening? Is there a queue where refugees are refused
entry on the basis that we only accept EU citizens? There is no queue at the moment as there is no quota. There maybe after Brexit.

Skilled workers from outside the EU struggle to get in the UK even when having a solid job offer

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[dutchman]

So you've taken advantage of FoM laws to stay in the UK, yet appear to have issues with others from within the EU doing the same?

It has nothing to do with the EU, I came here long before Britain joined the Common Market.

 

[dutchman]

No I didn’t. I reacted to people bringing Soros up. I have never brought Soros up.

You keep insinuating that Brexit is being financed entirely by unspecified "American billionaires" without any evidence to back that up while completely ignoring the one billionaire that we know for certain is bankrolling the anti-Brexit movement.

 

[martcov]

You keep insinuating that Brexit is being financed entirely by unspecified "American billionaires" without any evidence to back that up while completely ignoring the one billionaire that we know for certain is bankrolling the anti-Brexit movement.

You only have to look at the Tufton Street network think tanks. Google it. And Soros is not bankrolling the „anti Brexit“ movement ( does that exist?).

 

[martcov]

Skilled workers from outside the EU struggle to get in the UK even when having a solid job offer

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Nothing to do with EU migrants.

 

[martcov]

So we're you talking about the tourist trade or those who want to come and stay illegally?

How do you know who is who?

 

[martcov]

You keep insinuating that Brexit is being financed entirely by unspecified "American billionaires" without any evidence to back that up while completely ignoring the one billionaire that we know for certain is bankrolling the anti-Brexit movement.

I never said entirely.

 

[martcov]

It has nothing to do with the EU, I came here long before Britain joined the Common Market.

Will Brexit affect you?

 

[dutchman]

Will Brexit affect you?

Residential wise, not in the slightest.

 

[dutchman]

You only have to look at the Tufton Street network think tanks. Google it. And Soros is not bankrolling the „anti Brexit“ movement ( does that exist?).

http://fortune.com
Anti-Brexit tycoon Soros: EU 'in crisis'
Soros-backed campaign to push for new Brexit vote within a year
George Soros: Campaign for second Brexit referendum about to start
Soros-backed anti-Brexit group targets lawmakers in push for new referendum | Reuters
'He's a gambler!' British MEP BLASTS George Soros over billionaire's anti-Brexit pledge

 

[Grendel]

And that agenda is? Apart questioning things you and people like Grendel throw out without a care whether they are right or wrong.

Hello it’s me again

Did you do George Soros upholds western values and democracy?

 

[dutchman]

I see things are still going well in Macron's globalist French paradise...
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[martcov]

Hello it’s me again

Did you do George Soros upholds western values and democracy?

Not this time. I can’t remember if I ever did. Anyway, good that you’re here, did you count how many times you have brought up Soros and will you be marching with Tommy‘s Great Brexit Betrayal March?

 

[skybluetony176]

You bought Soros up 27 times on this thread

What a sad empty life you must live to consider a good way to spend time is to look back through an almost 700 page thread on a football forum to count how many times one poster has mentioned someone’s name. Jees I pity you. You need to find a purpose in life.

 

[Grendel]

Soros is fighting to keep Western values and liberal democracy alive. Glad he is there.