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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #141
shmmeee said:
Who now he’s fit everyone is saying should start next game?
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The whole plan was Walker and Godden, but the latter looks still miles off what he was. Keep getting the minutes into him and swap for Gyo if he tires.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #142
shmmeee said:
Who now he’s fit everyone is saying should start next game?
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Yes I'm in agreement he should start with Walker... but they mean gyokores don't they
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #143
SBAndy said:
Strangely (and you may disagree), I think he’s adapted very well season-to-season and has developed his ideas/formations to suit. This hasn’t really happened this season and whilst I do think a back 3 leads to our best play, the fact he evidently doesn’t know what the best starting lineup is and how to get the best out of the system at this level is a concern.
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To be fair to him he adjusted the way we play part way through the season and tightened up the defence, the problem is generally improved defensive solidity has come at the cost of any attacking impetus.

Goals breed confidence and we've not scored many, we've got players in midfield like James and Hamer who are hiding from the defenders when they're looking for a pass out of defence, clearly lacking confidence.

Having said all that, if that French clown had buried the gilt edged chances in successive games we'd be feeling far more positive than this.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #144
shmmeee said:
First time for everything
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Tbf he probably said the polar opposite twice in less than 24 hours so he's covered
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #145
Evo1883 said:
It can't be the same as he's never been relegated in this league with Huddersfield or Barnsley , so his record at this "level" is obviously better
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Im talking about for us
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #146
Have a feeling Robins will go at the end of this season irrespective of whether we stay up or go down.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #147
Super Graham Withey said:
Have a feeling Robins will go at the end of this season irrespective of whether we stay up or go down.
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Based on ?
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #148
Evo1883 said:
Based on ?
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He knows he's taken us as far as he can.
 
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Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #149
Super Graham Withey said:
He knows he's taken us as far as he can.
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We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #150
Evo1883 said:
We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more
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SISU will have promised him nothing but more of the same.
 

Greggs

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #151
Evo1883 said:
We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more
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If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #152
Greggs said:
If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?
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Ofcourse I'd trust him with more money for wages and transfers

Even if they gave him another 10 million for wages alone we'd still not be on par with the average wage bill in this league
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #153
Evo1883 said:
We don't know what the owners have promised him if we stay up..they may be offering to double the wage bill so we can match the mighty Barnsley in wages to compete a bit more
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Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box
 

Greggs

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #154
Evo1883 said:
Ofcourse I'd trust him with more money for wages and transfers

Even if they gave him another 10 million for wages alone we'd still not be on par with the average wage bill in this league
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Really? Recruitment has been wonderful so far.......
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #155
Grendel said:
Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box
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I thought we were talking sensible
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #156
Evo1883 said:
I thought we were talking sensible
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I am he’s very on board with these owners - very
 

cc84cov

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #157
Greggs said:
If they give him 10million, would you really trust him? He has NEVER succeeded in the championship. If we can't offer players sentiment, why should we offer it a manager?
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Not a chance his signings have been weak the foreign ones are atrocious
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #158
If he’s had more money we know from rumours he’d have been looking at players like Panzo at CB and a new GK, who knows what else?

The fact is the team we put out yesterday isn’t much changed from the one we put out in L1:

Marosi - Marosi
Dacosta - Dabo (downgrade)
Rose - Rose
McFadz - Østigård (upgrade?)
Hyam - Hyam
McCallum - McCallum
Hamer - Walsh (downgrade on current form)
James - Kelly (slight upgrade?)
Shipley - Shipley
Allen - Allen
Godden - Godden
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #159
Grendel said:
Robins won’t be going anywhere. Our owners just want a disciple who worships at the Sisu temple. Robins ticks the box
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Not so sure about that myself. Robins may publicly give the impression that he's pro SISU but he's not stupid. I don't believe for one minute that he genuinely believes that SISU have or ever will give him the squad he needs to succeed in the Championship.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #160
Greggs said:
Really? Recruitment has been wonderful with so far.......
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Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona
 

Greggs

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #161
Evo1883 said:
Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona
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I'd expect him to get the best out of his players. Do you think he is good at that?!?!
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #162
Evo1883 said:
Well I mean we've been promoted spent a couple of million ontop of an already pitifully small budget for this league ...were you expecting them all to be Diego Maradona
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You don’t know what the budget is and by definition clubs like Sunderland and Ipswich had collosal budgets in league one and we and Wycombe finished above them.
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #163
Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #164
Greggs said:
I'd expect him to get the best out of his players. Do you think he is good at that?!?!
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And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?
 

Greggs

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #165
Evo1883 said:
Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic
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Come on then Carol Voderman, how much is James on?
 

Greggs

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #166
Super Graham Withey said:
And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?
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i think we have a squad that are capable of performing far better than anything we've seen in months.
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #167
Evo1883 said:
Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic
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And £4-£8K is top end of our budget,
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #168
Evo1883 said:
Really some people do struggle with basic economics and I'm supposed to be the thick one .

Coventry offering players let's say 4-8k a week to come and play football in the championship , the average championship wage is pushing 20k a week , better players demand higher wages , your only hope is to try and find hidden gems on low wages and shock horror some don't work out .

More money , easier to bring in proven quality , easier ro survive .

Pretty simple logic
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So if you are a manager whose inherited players on large contracts from a previous manager and have no money to spend on new players have you a bigger budget than someone who can spend £2.5m on new players in the close season?
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #169
Greggs said:
how much is James on?
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How much is Charlie Austin on?
 

Evo1883

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #170
Grendel said:
You don’t know what the budget is and by definition clubs like Sunderland and Ipswich had collosal budgets in league one and we and Wycombe finished above them.
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This was explained by using Derby and Sheffield Wednesday as examples .

Both clubs were higher up pushing promotion , had certain players on massive wages ...had to reduce budget based on failure , built around high earners with lower quality low earners = high wage bill but less quality ..all the teams mentioned have reduced their wage bills considerably including Sunderland
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #171
Super Graham Withey said:
And do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?
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we are similar to a lot of clubs around us - our wage bill will be near £10m
 
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Super Graham Withey

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #172
Greggs said:
i think we have a squad that are capable of performing far better than anything we've seen in months.
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Maybe. But repeat, do you think we have a squad of genuine Championship ability?
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #173
Grendel said:
we are similar to a lot of clubs around us - our wage bill will be near £10m
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Which squads do you think we have similar quality players to?
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #174
Evo1883 said:
This was explained by using Derby and Sheffield Wednesday as examples .

Both clubs were higher up pushing promotion , had certain players on massive wages ...had to reduce budget based on failure , built around high earners with lower quality low earners = high wage bill but less quality ..all the teams mentioned have reduced their wage bills considerably inuding Sunderland
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Sundeland entered the league with a £40m wage bill so that’s a big budget isn’t it?
 

stupot07

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  • Apr 3, 2021
  • #175
shmmeee said:
If he’s had more money we know from rumours he’d have been looking at players like Panzo at CB and a new GK, who knows what else?

The fact is the team we put out yesterday isn’t much changed from the one we put out in L1:

Marosi - Marosi
Dacosta - Dabo (downgrade)
Rose - Rose
McFadz - Østigård (upgrade?)
Hyam - Hyam
McCallum - McCallum
Hamer - Walsh (downgrade on current form)
James - Kelly (slight upgrade?)
Shipley - Shipley
Allen - Allen
Godden - Godden
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It really shows how poor our recruitment has been this season.


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