Robins on CWR (4 Viewers)

[cc84cov]

i think we have a squad that are capable of performing far better than anything we've seen in months.

Even robins admitted we are a mid table team with better away form He should of gone in jan

 

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[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

MR's comments are totally baffling and at odds to what's going on on the pitch.

If he's truly wanting them to be more attacking why is he filling the team with defensive minded players, esp in midfield? Why do we seem to come out after half time in games we're doing quite well in and become more like we're playing for the draw than trying to win?

If the team aren't following instructions why isn't he on the touchline telling them what he wants them to do instead? If the team was so poor yesterday why not make HT changes to make a statement of his discontent?

 

[cc84cov]

It really shows how poor our recruitment has been this season.


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Shockingly bad I would fuck Chris “coup” Badlan off as well

 

[shmmeee]

It really shows how poor our recruitment has been this season.


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It doesn’t help than one of our best signings is injured and two of the others were on the bench, but yeah.

 

[Evo1883]

So if you are a manager whose inherited players on large contracts from a previous manager and have no money to spend on new players have you a bigger budget than someone who can spend £2.5m on new players in the close season?

Yes but you still have certain players , Sunderland an example aiden mcgeady who are already at or above the level you are playing at .

 

[cc84cov]

MR's comments are totally baffling and at odds to what's going on on the pitch.

If he's truly wanting them to be more attacking why is he filling the team with defensive minded players, esp in midfield? Why do we seem to come out after half time in games we're doing quite well in and become more like we're playing for the draw than trying to win?

If the team aren't following instructions why isn't he on the touchline telling them what he wants them to do instead? If the team was so poor yesterday why not make HT changes to make a statement of his discontent?

He’s lost the plot is what your witnessing

 

[Greggs]

Even robins admitted we are a mid table team with better away form He should of gone in jan

Away form is another red flag. Shows the manager can't adapt

 

[Grendel]

Which squads do you think we have similar quality players to?

Wycombe, Rotherham, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Luton, Millwall I have t seen them but I suspect Preston are no great shakes either. Oh and Birmingham

 

[Evo1883]

Sundeland entered the league with a £40m wage bill so that’s a big budget isn’t it?

It's huge but they are a club who are working backwards with their wage bill trying to reduce it ..

Remember how many levels we dropped when we reduced our wage bill gradually over 10 years ...pretty sure we went to the bottom tier ...

Sunderland have also just been taken over

 

[Grendel]

It's huge but they are a club who are working backwards with their wage bill trying to reduce it ..

Remember how many levels we dropped when we reduced our wage bill gradually over 10 years ...pretty sure we went to the bottom tier ...

There are several clubs in the championship with the same problem aren’t there?

 

[NorthernWisdom]

You realise that if the club stay up you won't get that wish?
So there's little point banging the drum .

Please God don't encourage him to keep banging it in any way. It wouldn't be so bad if he found different ways to say it!

 

[Evo1883]

There are several clubs in the championship with the same problem aren’t there?

Yes ..but as mentioned many of them already have good players on high wages ..they've added players on less money .

I mean these teams still have some quality in their ranks to begin with

Even Sheffield Wednesday who have been so mismanaged in the last 3 or 4 years since missing out in the playoffs

 

[Grendel]

Yes ..but as mentioned many of them already have good players on high wages ..they've added players on less money .

I mean these teams still have some quality in their ranks to begin with

Even Sheffield Wednesday who have been so mismanaged in the last 3 or 4 years since missing out in the playoffs

But if robins is as good as you claim he should over achieve his budget position or he’s just average then?

 

[Frostie]

Please God don't encourage him to keep banging it in any way. It wouldn't be so bad if he found different ways to say it!

He's been banging it for 4 years, since the League Two season. Whenever Robins does leave be it this year, next year or in 10 years time he'll ignore everything achieved & still claim he was right all along.

 

[Evo1883]

But if robins is as good as you claim he should over achieve his budget position or he’s just average then?

Overachiveing our budget position ...would be us finishing 21st or 22nd .

Staying up would be financially over achieving .

Survival will give us a real chance to kick on ...I'm absolutely positive mark Robins said that himself recently

 

[Frostie]

But if robins is as good as you claim he should over achieve his budget position or he’s just average then?

He is?

 

[Grendel]

Overachiveing our budget position ...would be us finishing 21st or 22nd .

Staying up would be financially over achieving .

Survival will give us a real chance to kick on ...I'm absolutely positive mark Robins said that himself recently

To kick on we need a new manager

 

[Evo1883]

The only way this club shows an immediate kick on is if we get substantial investment , otherwise we are looking at trying to improve gradually over several years

 

[Grendel]

He is?

His overall management record is average and finishing 6th in league 2 is pretty average

He’s had one very good season with us and a couple at Rotherham

 

[Evo1883]

To kick on we need a new manager

Because there's loads of managers out there who can take this club to the mid - higher reaches of the championship with a 4-5 million pound budget .

It's not 2001

 

[Grendel]

Because there's loads of managers out there who can take this club to the mid - higher reaches of the championship with a 4-5 million pound budget .

Our wages alone were higher than that in league 2

 

[Evo1883]

Our wages alone were higher than that in league 2

No they weren't at all

 

[clint van damme]

Wycombe, Rotherham, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Luton, Millwall I have t seen them but I suspect Preston are no great shakes either. Oh and Birmingham

3 of them are below us and Luton have Collins on the bench who would walk into our side, (looks like he's leaving there and I would target signing him).
I suspect blues and Derby have much bigger budgets yet Blues are in the relegation scrap with us and Derby not far above it.

 

[Grendel]

No they weren't at all

It was once £4.6 wasn’t it and £5.2 the following season in league 1? Since then we’ve signed Mcfazdean Allen Godden o hare Marosi jonello hamer Walker Kastaneer also wage increases in contracts tied to promotion - our wheat fees in the promotion season were some of the highest

 

[Deleted member 11652]

Because there's loads of managers out there who can take this club to the mid - higher reaches of the championship with a 4-5 million pound budget .

It's not 2001

£4-5m? We’ve spent £2m on Walker and Hamer alone?

 

[Evo1883]

It was once £4.6 wasn’t it and £5.2 the following season in league 1? Since then we’ve signed Mcfazdean Allen Godden o hare Marosi jonello hamer Walker Kastaneer also wage increases in contracts tied to promotion - our wheat fees in the promotion season were some of the highest

I mean to have a wage bill of 5.4 million you'd have to have 26 players on 4000 a week .

 

[Grendel]

I mean to have a wage bill of 5.4 million you'd have to have 26 players on 4000 a week .

I got my years mixed up it was £4.7m before we signed those players it will be close to £10 million now as a guess

 

[Frostie]

Ours was £5.2m in the 2019 accounts (less than Southend, Scunthorpe, Fleetwood etc.) whilst same year...

Derby £46.8m
Sheff Wed £42.4m
Forest £36.3m
Birmingham £32.8m

 

[Evo1883]

I got my years mixed up it was £4.7m before we signed those players it will be close to £10 million now as a guess

You think our wage bill is close to 10 million

No wonder you're so angry about Robins

 

[Super Graham Withey]

I mean to have a wage bill of 5.4 million you'd have to have 26 players on 4000 a week .

Our wage bill in League 2 was £4/£5m. I'd say it's around £8/£9m now. To put this in context Millwall's wage bill last season was around £16m, Preston's around £18m. My guess is that our wage bill is higher than that of Wycombe and Rotherham, maybe on a par with that of Barnsley and possibly Luton and considerably below anyone else in The Championship.

 

[Grendel]

Ours was £5.2m in the 2019 accounts (less than Southend, Scunthorpe, Fleetwood etc.) whilst same year...

Derby £46.8m
Sheff Wed £42.4m
Forest £36.3m
Birmingham £32.8m

Which proves wage bills have not a huge factor in league position

At last you are seeing the light

 

[Frostie]

Which proves wage bills have not a huge factor in league position

At last you are seeing the light

It proves that we're massively overachieving

 

[Evo1883]

Ours was £5.2m in the 2019 accounts (less than Southend, Scunthorpe, Fleetwood etc.) whilst same year...

Derby £46.8m
Sheff Wed £42.4m
Forest £36.3m
Birmingham £32.8m

Worth noting that the sites that give you that information will be based solely on player wages ... I'm assuming our wage bill touted isn't just player wages but every single wage at the club right down to the ticket office lady

 

[Frostie]

Worth noting that the sites that give you that information will be based solely on player wages ... I'm assuming our wage bill touted isn't just player wages but every single wage at the club right down to the ticket office lady

That's from each of their published accounts.

 

[Evo1883]

Which proves wage bills have not a huge factor in league position

At last you are seeing the light

3 of those 4 sides recently pushed for promotion , hence the larger wage bills .

You can't (in blues case ) count for terrible mismanagement