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Liquid Gold
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I’ll take another 4 boring 1-0s
I actually think we look good on the break so we might be good against a decent side.
I actually think we look good on the break so we might be good against a decent side.
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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I hope not, I really like mount but we know it will be the end of grealishs tournament if mount makes it.
Brighton Sky Blue
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COV
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We will look miles better against any team that comes at us, because that suits our game. We look very cumbersome having to go after teams ourselves
Brighton Sky Blue
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We will also need to score more than one to beat said teams.
COV
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I’m not enjoying the performances but I didn’t expect to- we don’t set out to attack teams like you want us to. Expecting to tonk Scotland & these guys tonight really just betrays a lack of knowledge of how England play.
Against a Germany or a France- we likely wouldn’t win but the match would be unrecognisable
As for ambitious- not conceding a goal and winning the group easily, is that not ambitious enough for you?
COV
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What about If we keep another clean sheet, wouldn’t one goal be enough then?
Oh yes of course- “there’s no way we will keep a clean sheet, we’re shit, not ambitious enough, wasting talent” etc etc”
Brighton Sky Blue
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I don’t expect us to approach Scotland or Czech in the same way we would the best sides in the competition. You play weaker sides at home, you know they will pack behind the ball. Patient possession sideways football is not going to do the business in games like that and it especially isn’t harnessing the part of the pitch where we are clearly strongest.
It isn’t all out attack I advocate despite countless misrepresentations to the contrary
Brighton Sky Blue
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SkyBlue_Bear83
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Praying for a Hungary miracle tomorrow
Liquid Gold
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Raheem though hey lads
COV
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But patient possession football did do the business? We won the group didn’t we?
COV
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Yeah funny how nobody wants to mention him now
Brighton Sky Blue
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SBAndy
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Feels a bit like having to justify 352 all over again doesn’t it?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Most on here want England to do well, but anyone can see we are not playing to our potential, and if we don't against the better teams we will go out. That is why most are concerned - at Southgate's seeming inability to get us playing close to that potential. The tools are there, but not necessarily the operator
SBAndy
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On this, I don’t have much of a problem with Southgate, get what he’s trying to do and that. But I’d be much more content with us sitting on a 2-0 lead considering our defence isn’t the greatest so why we hit the reverse gear after 35 minutes today and we’re defending the edge of our area is beyond me. Push the fuck up.
Brighton Sky Blue
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It is a bit, but it’s not so much the shape that bothers me as much as how the players are being told to play. I get that slow build up possession is ‘in’ now but it doesn’t make it right for the players at our disposal and not is it the only way to get a result.
A team playing an effective press will cause us big problems while a team more well versed in the possession game will control proceedings.
Houchens Head
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Thought Saka played a blinder tonight. A little terrier! One to watch for future games!
We look decent when we attack with pace and tempo.
When we spend ages knocking it about the back we look so slow and unthreatening. Plus we seem to get deeper and slower as the game wears on.
We're not making the most of the players we have available and we're not getting the most out of our best players. It's so frustrating. We have a squad capable of playing attacking and attractive football.
We just have to hope we can catch Germany/Portugal on the break but if they score first we are in big, big trouble.
When we spend ages knocking it about the back we look so slow and unthreatening. Plus we seem to get deeper and slower as the game wears on.
We're not making the most of the players we have available and we're not getting the most out of our best players. It's so frustrating. We have a squad capable of playing attacking and attractive football.
We just have to hope we can catch Germany/Portugal on the break but if they score first we are in big, big trouble.
no_loyalty
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Definitely MOTM. You watch, Southgate will probably leave him out for the next game, and bring back Foden.
Liquid Gold
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CJ_covblaze
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Better tonight. Kane held up the ball well and others around were more in tune. Saka MOTM but there are a good few that could claim it.
Frostie
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The obvious way to approach Germany's 3-4-3 would be 4-2-3-1 again only this time actually allow our full backs to get forward & double up on Gosens & Kimmich.
As City fans, we know ourselves where the strengths & weaknesses are of a wing-back formation but Southgate was so averse to try to exploit it vs Scotland I don't know what to expect.
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robbiekeane
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Who would people change out for the next game?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Grealish didn't get on the ball 2nd half and I wouldn't be surprised if Foden and Mount come back and Grealish and Saka are benched.
Anybody see the devastated look on Grealish's face when he was subbed?
Anybody see the devastated look on Grealish's face when he was subbed?
Like Croatia ?!
Now I’m not going to get overly excited (we’ve been dour in patches) or say Southgate picked the teams I would’ve, but we’ll only really know when we play the next game. As one of the commentators said last night, if we go toe to toe with France who’s likely to win ?! Croatia barely had an attacking kick and whilst second half last night was disjointed we could’ve easily had three by half time (sterling post and Kane one on one)
Id like Mount alongside Phillips or Rice but also appreciate against the better teams thats probably a no no….best we can expect is Hendo
Comfortably through even after a very poor game lacking intensity against the Scots. That mayve just been the kick up the arse Southgate and the players needed. Grealish and Saka we’re both excellent last night, especially first half so I hope would keep places. If not, I take the above back Southgate out !
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Yeah, but he just loves playing and knows he didn’t see much of the ball second half. Won’t take any more from it than that
