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Tommo1993

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,911
baldy said:
I meant the 'Don't go den' bit - trying too hard to be funny
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Think it was more satirical than corny.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,912
Torquay Sky Blue said:
I had my first vaccine on April 4. I had a heart attack on April 8. I won't be having another jab that's for sure. My cardiologist refuses to link the two but advised me not to have the astrazeneca for my second jab. Bit of a mixed message there which I have in writing.
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Fucking hell. Hope you're on the way to a full recovery mate.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,913
Torquay Sky Blue said:
I had my first vaccine on April 4. I had a heart attack on April 8. I won't be having another jab that's for sure. My cardiologist refuses to link the two but advised me not to have the astrazeneca for my second jab. Bit of a mixed message there which I have in writing.
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Really sorry to hear that mate, wishing you the best recovery.

Make the right decision for yourself going forwards, but if I were in your shoes I would do exactly the same thing.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,914
baldy said:
How corny
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I'm corny, corny, corny, corny
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,915
96 deaths of those having positive test in the last 28 days. Wonder when Boris gets twitchy? They were probably all over 80 or already Ill though so it doesn’t really matter
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,916
Sky Blue Pete said:
96 deaths of those having positive test in the last 28 days. Wonder when Boris gets twitchy? They were probably all over 80 or already I’ll though so it doesn’t really matter
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Deaths FROM covid or just deaths where they were positive in the last 28 days?
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,917
Nick said:
Deaths FROM covid or just deaths where they were positive in the last 28 days?
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Lol
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,918
Nick said:
Deaths FROM covid or just deaths where they were positive in the last 28 days?
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Is it 2020 again already?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,919

Vaccination proof may be required to attend sports events of about 20,000 or more capacity

Fans may be required to show proof of full vaccination to attend sports venues with capacities of about 20,000 or more by the end of September.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,920
David O'Day said:

Vaccination proof may be required to attend sports events of about 20,000 or more capacity

Fans may be required to show proof of full vaccination to attend sports venues with capacities of about 20,000 or more by the end of September.
www.bbc.co.uk
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We'll be exempt, then
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,921
Deleted member 5849 said:
We'll be exempt, then
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3 games a season vaccine passport wonders
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,922
David O'Day said:
3 games a season vaccine passport wonders
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We'll just be fairweather vaccine passporters!
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,923
clint van damme said:
Fucking hell. Hope you're on the way to a full recovery mate.
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All good now mate. Thanks
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,924
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Really sorry to hear that mate, wishing you the best recovery.

Make the right decision for yourself going forwards, but if I were in your shoes I would do exactly the same thing.
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All good mate. Thanks
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,925
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am getting pretty tired of this attempt to pin things more on younger people, whether that’s how you mean it to come across or not.
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I’m not pining it on young people at all. Read through any of my historical posts and I’ve been clear the younger generations been disproportionately disadvantaged by the pandemic and lockdowns. My post was in response to people querying my comment about taking the vaccine is people’s own choice. The facts are the the facts though, I understand currently that 30% of 18-30 year olds are unvaccinated. I’ve said it’s their choice, and if I was a healthy 20 year old I might make the same one, but my preference would be for more to get vaccinated. It’s up to government/NHS/PHE to educate them as to why it’s best for them and others.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,926
Sky Blue Pete said:
96 deaths of those having positive test in the last 28 days. Wonder when Boris gets twitchy? They were probably all over 80 or already Ill though so it doesn’t really matter
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,927
CCFCSteve said:
I’m not pining it on young people at all. Read through any of my historical posts and I’ve been clear the younger generations been disproportionately disadvantaged by the pandemic and lockdowns. My post was in response to people querying my comment about taking the vaccine is people’s own choice. The facts are the the facts though, I understand currently that 30% of 18-30 year olds are unvaccinated. I’ve said it’s their choice, and if I was a healthy 20 year old I might make the same one, but my preference would be for more to get vaccinated. It’s up to government/NHS/PHE to educate them as to why it’s best for them and others.
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Considering that this group was the last to get invited and has been told for months that the AZ jab was a bigger risk to them than COVID, 70% take up and lots of cases of students queuing in their hundreds to get jabbed is impressive. The PM has in any case decided to mass infect all of them anyway so the point seems redundant now
 
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covmark

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,928
skybluetony176 said:
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Yep, hilarious.

Sent from my SM-G780F using Tapatalk
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2021
  • #49,929
covmark said:
Yep, hilarious.

Sent from my SM-G780F using Tapatalk
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I don’t actually think it’s supposed to be funny. It’s demonstrating the point that they were going to die anyway isn’t a defence.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,930
Probably going to be a big increase in the figures today.

I'm going for around 65,000 covid infections in the UK for today. It is a bit danse macabre but can see today being where we hammer the top of the January wave by a good 10,000.
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,931
The higher the number of patients admitted to the hospital, the more activities will be limited by the Gov by the vaccine passport whenever that is due to start.

Whilst the vaccine has been good at cutting down the number of deaths and hospitalisations, if there isn't a slowing down of the infection rates over the next couple of weeks then their whole strategy is screwed.
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,932
Philosorapter said:
Whilst the vaccine has been good at cutting down the number of deaths and hospitalisations, if there isn't a slowing down of the infection rates over the next couple of weeks then their whole strategy is screwed.
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Not sure I can see this happening for a bit. What’s the herd immunity %…supposed to be 75%~80% or something?

We are at 54% of total population double jabbed. 69% first jabbed. I guess when those second jabs roll out we will be close, when you take into account people who’ve hadthe virus too so get natural immunity.

5.5m total UK cases so far. Any way of separating out those from the vaccine numbers? I.e. how many of those 5.5m are not in the vax numbers captured above
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,933
robbiekeane said:
Not sure I can see this happening for a bit. What’s the herd immunity %…supposed to be 75%~80% or something?

We are at 54% of total population double jabbed. 69% first jabbed. I guess when those second jabs roll out we will be close, when you take into account people who’ve hadthe virus too so get natural immunity.

5.5m total UK cases so far. Any way of separating out those from the vaccine numbers? I.e. how many of those 5.5m are not in the vax numbers captured above
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I can’t get my head around why we are not certain of repeated infection
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,934
robbiekeane said:
Not sure I can see this happening for a bit. What’s the herd immunity %…supposed to be 75%~80% or something?

We are at 54% of total population double jabbed. 69% first jabbed. I guess when those second jabs roll out we will be close, when you take into account people who’ve hadthe virus too so get natural immunity.

5.5m total UK cases so far. Any way of separating out those from the vaccine numbers? I.e. how many of those 5.5m are not in the vax numbers captured above
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There’s a growing alarm amongst scientists that the Delta variant might require 94% of the total population to acquire herd immunity. You’re wrong on the percentage of population jabbed and double jabbed too. It’s not a percentage of total population it’s the percentage of of over 18’s. Under 18’s account for about 21% of the U.K. population so it’s going to basically require 100% of the adult population to be double jabbed before we reach current estimates on herd immunity and we need to keep our fingers crossed that concerns regarding the delta variant and herd immunity turns out to be incorrect.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,935
skybluetony176 said:
There’s a growing alarm amongst scientists that the Delta variant might require 94% of the total population to acquire herd immunity. You’re wrong on the percentage of population jabbed and double jabbed too. It’s not a percentage of total population it’s the percentage of of over 18’s. Under 18’s account for about 21% of the U.K. population so it’s going to basically require 100% of the adult population to be double jabbed before we reach current estimates on herd immunity and we need to keep our fingers crossed that concerns regarding the delta variant and herd immunity turns out to be incorrect.
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How many under 18's do you think have already had it?
 
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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,936
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can’t get my head around why we are not certain of repeated infection
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We're not. The logic would be you build up a certain ability to fight it, however, so it becomes less of a threat when and if you catch it.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,937
MusicDating said:
How many under 18's do you think have already had it?
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No idea. But given it’s estimated that you hold onto antibodies an average of 5-7 months after catching it it’s an inefficient way of achieving herd immunity as your basically relying on anyone who hasn’t had the vaccine catching Covid at least twice a year.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,938
skybluetony176 said:
You’re wrong on the percentage of population jabbed and double jabbed too. It’s not a percentage of total population it’s the percentage of of over 18’s. Under 18’s account for about 21% of the U.K.
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How am I wrong?
46.3m first doses, 36.2m of which have had second doses.

UK population 66.7m.

Not really sure what you’re on about?
 

robbiekeane

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,939
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can’t get my head around why we are not certain of repeated infection
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What do you mean?
 

MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,940
skybluetony176 said:
No idea. But given it’s estimated that you hold onto antibodies an average of 5-7 months after catching it it’s an inefficient way of achieving herd immunity as your basically relying on anyone who hasn’t had the vaccine catching Covid at least twice a year.
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So herd immunity is impossible as you'll always have a significant percentage whose antibodies have dropped off (be it jabbed or having caught it previously).

The current approach is the correct one then, let's just get on with it?
 
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COV

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,941
robbiekeane said:
What do you mean?
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he means he can't get his head around why we are not certain of repeated infection m8
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,942
robbiekeane said:
What do you mean?
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We don’t really know what happens and for how long when someone has had covid
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,943
MusicDating said:
So herd immunity is impossible as you'll always have a significant percentage whose antibodies have dropped off (be it jabbed or having caught it previously).

The current approach is the correct one then, let's just get on with it?
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But be aware of the consequences and seek to be cautious where appropriate masks indoor activity etc
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,944
Sky Blue Pete said:
We don’t really know what happens and for how long when someone has had covid
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We must know though. We’ve definitely been studying it for over a year, as I’ve said my missus was having regular antibody tests in 2020 as part of a trial.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 21, 2021
  • #49,945
shmmeee said:
We must know though. We’ve definitely been studying it for over a year, as I’ve said my missus was having regular antibody tests in 2020 as part of a trial.
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Have you seen anything? Anecdotally ive been told very few people catch it again and Boris self isolating even though he had it bad!!

Confused
 
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