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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The UK has a PM described as obsessed with immigration in her previous post, and all governments in Schengen, which is an open border agreement, have ID cards. It would appear that, in the case of the EU, it is the opposite of what you claim. The state knows where I live, but that is it. Apart...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I have never claimed to be left. I have been called naive enough times on here. But, I am not naive and the trade off for borderless travel, which I favour, is ID cards.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Some on here are scared of asylum seekers, want more border controls and think people should be vetted as refugees, but to suggest people can be identified more easily thus enabling these controls is against freedom and liberty. It would also make benefit abuse harder. I am for ID cards and the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes. Like they did about ID cards. I was for ID cards and millions were spent preparing for them, but the Tories cancelled them.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I stand up for democracy and that means letting the people change their minds, as in a parliamentary democracy. You know, the one that lets you vote out the government if they have misled you or if things are not going well. You don’t vote Tory for eternity and the present government will be...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In a true democracy you can change your mind if things are not working out as expected. Especially if you were misled.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I thought he wanted to gho to Hungary because it is the most right wing country in the EU. Poland is catching up now though.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    A whitewash from the contributor. We are not the worst, but things have gone down a lot. Yes we are off Paki bashing, insulting „thick paddies“, tight Scots etc..... but some of us are on to annoying Eastern Europeans. The BNP and EDL were wiped out by UKIP, as were the NF and British Movement...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Did these measures defining hate crimes take place on Brexit day? No, they were there before. Even if they are wrong, they were wrong before and after... which means a spike is a spike. If it was the day after a definition was changed maybe he would have a point, but it looks like an excuse to...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Was he tried as a mentally deranged person then? Do you think that stupid, mental or violent people are not effected by the hate spewing from the likes of the Mail? There were more violent or abusive attacks after the Brexit campaign which indicates that some people do react to the general...
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    Poll: How long will Trump be President?

    The stock market has been going up for years... even before Trimp... with the arms contracts, deregulation, doing away with environmental protection laws, a tax handout to businesses and a promise of infrastructure projects it is not surprising. But, someone will be paying. The poor, the ones...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Or that. What a terrible mess we are in.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Even I don't agree with that.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So they are asking to be abused, threatened and, if the threats are carried out, killed? Big difference between leave and remain tactics. Never heard of remainers wanting to kill leavers or threatening to.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The other way was the status quo. Nothing would have changed, or at least nothing as dramatic as leaving.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    On the other side there are death threats and Lynch mob headlines against people who dare to speak out against this mess.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    1 and 3 are correct. 2. Some were thick and stupid.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I suspect that MPs are better informed than postal workers in Chatham and potatoe pickers in Boston. Anyway it is no secret that we have parliamentary democracy. Just that some people forgot that when we had an advisory referendum.
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    Will Cup Final be rearranged

    I thought they were marrying at Windsor... I may be wrong...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I don’t remember that. I actually said I prefer the idea of either merging the European Council with the commission, or making it a part of a second chamber. Either way Tusk would be out of a job.
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