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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    No. I said they were right- for their readers.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Forbes is a well respected company for investment. Gig jobs and zero hour contracts would be a plus point, as would privatising the NHS, for investors. The conservative government is also a plus point for investors. They are not biased in favour of remain or leave. They do mention the potential...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    New Zealand is Second on the list. It is not a list of how well the countries are doing. America was 23 and is now 11, mainly because of removal of red tape. Red tape is not necessarily bad for citizens. E.g. removing environmental regulations leads to a higher position in the list, but is bad...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    That London is a major financial centre and that with life style are major plus points for Forbes has not been ignored by remainers. In fact, London wants to keep things as they are as being in the EU is a significant benefit. Forbes didn’t dwell on the rest of the country and did mention...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Who votes on major issues? MEPs, the countries‘ leaders, or the faceless bureaucrats?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    It wasn’t moving fast. It may speed up as a result of Brexit and the result of Trump and Putin‘s policies, or the growth of other blocs or powers such as China.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The catering union here want at least 8%, which our employers would pay, if the workers accept more flexibility, No one wants 4% in this trade. Too little. So it is all relative. Changing the direction based on a small minority will cause division for years to come, especially if things go bandy.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    exactly. Proved your point.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    yes. Trying to stop undemocratic moves. No doubt you are over the moon as a democrat. One of the advantages of the EU.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Theresa May sends Christmas Brexit message to millions of anxious UK citizens living in Europe Interesting that May claims she is fighting for UK citizens rights in the EU. The EU wanted a guarantee of citizens rights from the start. I am waiting for my last certificates and then getting...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    How many EU countries have ID cards? How many have Nazi tendencies which also have ID cards? Is anyone anywhere in the EU on the streets protesting about identifying people? The biggest complaint here, is that we cannot identify everyone. We’re moving that way with the refugees with public...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In all Labour held constituencies 70% of Labour voters voted leave? On average? All constituencies that are labour voted 70% leave? The UK average was 52% of voters of all parties. How was this calculated then?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Scapegoats are Obama and the EU. Now it’s Trump and here, the Tories. Let’s watch this panning out.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    With some it will never drop, but how can anyone not see what is going on? The same in the USA where they will pass a tax bill which increases the national debt in order to help businesses and the rich.. I still think that if things start going bandy here there will be a backlash..
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Every day some clown says something stupid. One day it is Davis, then BoJo, then Gove and then Farage weighs in praising the Austrian extreme right Party grounded by ( amongst others ) the Nazi Agriculture minister, if he‘s not too busy backing a paedophile together with the likes of Bannon and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I don’t know where Sick Boy is or what he is doing, but you are „on air“ now. I think it is both members and voters that voted remain. I also think that the division in the Tory cabinet is helping labour and exit Brexit. The more the leavers like BoJo, Gove and Davis make txts of themselves, and...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Awaiting your answer to Sick Boy's question...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If you voted for leave you are probably hurting yourself. It was the risk you took. You could call it a disconnect. The EU will take the way that is best long term for the 27. It may be that they have to take a short term hit as they are not going to give an ex member a better deal than the...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The EU wants what is best for their members. If we remained that would include us. We voted to leave, so the EU will only represent the ones who are not leaving. That is democracy at work. You have nothing to complain about as far as the EU is concerned. They are respecting the vote.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    We are in the CU and SM at the moment which doesn’t cherry pick. If we had voted remain we wouldn’t need to negotiate a comprehensive non cherry picked agreement. The only people trying to cherry pick an agreement are Davis and his team who want the benefits of being in the CU and SM without...
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