Do you want to discuss boring politics? (27 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

No it ain’t, should have been longer it could have caused accidents and people would have got hurt

Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25

It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime

 

[Nick]

Albanians completely stopped handful

Albanians have stopped what?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime

Should be longer

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Albanians have stopped what?

Coming in large numbers
Tories did a deal and it worked

 

[MalcSB]

It’s a bizarre sentence for a non violent crime

it’s probably supposed to act as a deterrent. Perfectly reasonable, especially as they will end up doing nothing like their sentence. Less than half probably,

 

[MalcSB]

Coming in large numbers
Tories did a deal and it worked

OMG, the Tories did something right,

 

[MalcSB]

Surely stationary traffic is less likely to cause accidents than the quality of driving you normally see on the m25

To borrow a phrase from Boicey, that’s laughable halfwittery.
If one of them had fallen on someone, they would have caused some damage,

 

[MalcSB]

It is a thing that hasn’t really been done until the last 12 months or so
Like most of these things it’s not as easy as saying you’re going home goodbye

Not helped when on the odd occasions when it’s tried, other passengers prevent the flight taking off.
Plus human rights lawyers.

 

[shmmeee]

It is a thing that hasn’t really been done until the last 12 months or so
Like most of these things it’s not as easy as saying you’re going home goodbye

Bring back the sheriff driving people out to the City Limits and outlaws.

 

[shmmeee]

Presumably helped by not having the civil service ”blob” acting against them.

If your political wing has to resort to calling everyone else NPCs and the blob, maybe they’re just not very good at working with others?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

No it isn’t. The disruption they caused and the money they cost - if someone had stolen that much money they would have expected jail time. Hopefully it will act as a deterrent unlike the tea and biscuits they usually get from law enforcement.

Michelle Mone says hi.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Not helped when on the odd occasions when it’s tried, other passengers prevent the flight taking off.
Plus human rights lawyers.

It's embarrasing. Remember Elin Errson in Sweden? Refused to let the plane take off with someone being deported. Turned out he had kicked the shit out of his wife. Clueless fucking idiot.

 

[shmmeee]

No it isn’t. The disruption they caused and the money they cost - if someone had stolen that much money they would have expected jail time. Hopefully it will act as a deterrent unlike the tea and biscuits they usually get from law enforcement.

What disruption did they cause?

 

[MalcSB]

If your political wing has to resort to calling everyone else NPCs and the blob, maybe they’re just not very good at working with others?

I thought the civil service were supposed to enact the decisions of parliament, not choose whether they wanted to work with the government or not.

 

[shmmeee]

I thought the civil service were supposed to enact the decisions of parliament, not choose whether they wanted to work with the government or not.

They’re still human and need working with. If everyone you meet is a dickhead, you’re the dickhead.

 

[MalcSB]

Michelle Mone says hi.

What’s she got to do with it?

 

[MalcSB]

What disruption did they cause?

Preventing ordinary people going about their lawful business.

 

[nicksar]

No idea. I’d guess around 10%.

10,300 (as of 2023) 12% of prisoners are foreign nationals,with Albanians being the highest number.

 

[shmmeee]

Preventing ordinary people going about their lawful business.

How’s that?

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

What’s she got to do with it?

You said if people had stolen that much money they'd expect jail time.

 

[clint van damme]

Presumably helped by not having the civil service ”blob” acting against them.

Put that daily mail down!

 

[PVA]

"Projects" like PPE?

Spend it on processing and get a better system in place.

It won't do a thing.

They're going improve processing too.

 

[PVA]

It’s a load of bollocks.

You were seemingly OK with the Rwanda scheme.

 

[MalcSB]

They’re still human and need working with. If everyone you meet is a dickhead, you’re the dickhead.

Very difficult to work with someone who is ideologically totally opposed to what you are trying to do.

 

[MalcSB]

How’s that?

FFS, being stuck in a traffic jam on the M25, or anywhere else the JSO scum and cunts have been active, preventing people getting to hospital appointments, to work, holding up ambulances etc.

You cannot seriously not accept that the disruption they caused stopped people going about their lawful business.

 

[MalcSB]

You said if people had stolen that much money they'd expect jail time.

If the allegations are proven, then yes she should face jail time.

 

[MalcSB]

You were seemingly OK with the Rwanda scheme.

The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and the Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.

 

[PVA]

The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and teh Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.

I find it strange you bemoan £84m as a laughable waste of money when at the very least that will improve some people's lives, but have no issue with spending £250m on literally fuck all.

 

[MalcSB]

I find it strange you bemoan £84m as a laughable waste of money when at the very least that will improve some people's lives, but have no issue with spending £250m on literally fuck all.

But will the £84m significantly reduce the number of people crossing the channel?
It’s Labour cancelling the Rwanda project that has meant that £250m has been spent on literally fuck all.

 

[Sick Boy]

10,300 (as of 2023) 12% of prisoners are foreign nationals,with Albanians being the highest number.

It more or less mirrors the UK's percentage of foreign-born residents then; if anything it's slightly less.

 

[skybluetony176]

The two schemes are completely different. i don’t think £28 million a year spread across Africa and the Middle East will make a blind bit of difference.

The Rwanda scheme never made a blind bit of difference. Cost us £280M for nothing. The numbers arriving by boats actually went up. If £28M a year has any effect at all it will be money far wiser spent than the Rwanda scheme.

 

[chiefdave]

preventing people getting to hospital appointments, to work, holding up ambulances etc.

 

[PVA]

But will the £84m significantly reduce the number of people crossing the channel?
It’s Labour cancelling the Rwanda project that has meant that £250m has been spent on literally fuck all.

If it was their flagship immigration policy you might have a point. But it's not. It's a small part of a wider programme to tackle immigration.

The Tories put all their eggs in one Rwandan basket and it was a total and utter abject failure. Labour are going about it much more sensibly and without the needless culture war and division.

It's just funny seeing people lose their shit over actual adults doing some actual governing.

 

[MalcSB]

Fucking scandalous. Wonder what the people in this country who fled from Hong Kong must be thinking?

If they are that worried, they can always return.