TomRad85
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Dunno really. Maybe a Russian team will take him when all the players decide to walk away from their league.
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Dunno really. Maybe a Russian team will take him when all the players decide to walk away from their league.Who’s gonna take Waghorn though ? Unless he can blag a newly promoted club for a final pay day
I just hope next pre season we get it right mate,How he stayed ahead of Walker is a joke at least walker offered goal scoring,Waghorn finishing is shocking and his legs are goneDunno really. Maybe a Russian team will take him when all the players decide to walk away from their league.
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40k per week. You're having a laughRather him on peanuts though than Waghorn on 40k a week G
Waghorn just doesn’t seem sharp enough or fit enough robins can’t be happy with his return
40k per week. You're having a laugh
So according to you bidwell is on 45k per week (£2.34m per year) and Waghorn is on £40k pw (£2.1m per year) absolute nonsense. Pur entire player wage bill will be about £7m tops.
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We'll have a better idea when last years accounts come out next month.It is nonsense but gross wages (inc management) is £13 million
We'll have a better idea when last years accounts come out next month.
I know you can't believe everything you read in the Internet but a quick good search suggests both Waghorn and Bidwell were on about £10k pa week at Derby/Swansea. But we, with one of the smallest budgets in the league have quadruple'd their wages to come here
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We'll have a better idea when last years accounts come out next month.
I know you can't believe everything you read in the Internet but a quick good search suggests both Waghorn and Bidwell were on about £10k pa week at Derby/Swansea. But we, with one of the smallest budgets in the league have quadruple'd their wages to come here
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We have something like £13m gross wages and 177 staff on the books meaning the avaerage wage of all staff is about 1,500 a week. That would suggest average weekly wage of the squad is about 7-8k a week.
I thought Waghorn was on £13k plus a big sign on fee.
Should have offered Max £3k (doubt Dundee pay more or a L1 club wound) and had a good chunk available for other signings.
That’s all.
I’d rather have Hyam upfront than maxlol why would you offer £3k a week for a proven failure at this level the signing of waghorn is irrelevant to who we actually released
We would have still had the same number of strikers but ability to strengthen / punt / invest.lol why would you offer £3k a week for a proven failure at this level the signing of waghorn is irrelevant to who we actually released
We would have still had the same number if strikers but ability to strengthen / punt / invest.
The point was then, as now, that signing a 31 y.o. Who will be 34 at contract end is not an investment; we can’t sell him. It’s a big cost.
Gyok was a fee but young and a saleable asset. Same Sheaf. Max would have been cheap.
Waghorn didn’t fit the model of buy young and potentially sell on. I said then it was a bonkers signing for the cost.
The 10k week over 2/3 years saving us a million plus on the playing budget.
Ok, Grendel, you win.
Biamou isn't good enough to be a back up option for us, it's time to let go.I know I’m going to get pellets for this but I’ll say it anyway:
I said at the time I thought him a bad signing and with the wage budget he soaks up we could have signed another player and kept Max. Someone posted a video of Walker’s goals yesterday on here and Max was there holding off defenders and giving great assists. Don’t know the stats for goals / minute or assists for Max / Wag because there’s no need; Waghorn has done F-All.
It was strange, as I said at the time, that we’d let go of our physical forwards (those with pace / strength Baka, Kasta, Max, players who could hold up or run through a defence, muscle at corners etc. and not replaced them and had no stuntman to step in to Gyok to receive the long balls through the middle.)
Now, for clarity, Baka and Kasta were not good enough. Max was not good enough to be our main threat but a perfectly decent, committed back up who knew our system and didn’t “need time to gel” (which was the excuse for Waghorn for the first few weeks). Also, he would have given us the opportunity to stop having to run Gyok into the ground like a Mijas Donkey.
In short, I said it then and I’ll say it now. We shouldn’t have signed Waghorn, kept the slightly younger Max and used the big difference in wages to sign a couple of other players. A couple of young gambles where we might have got jackpot transfer fees rather than the dead cert that we wouldn’t get a fee for Waghorn.
Wrong player. Wrong age, wrong wage, wrong attributes.
All wrong.
I got laughed at for saying this before but I’ll stand by my thoughts then and now.
Bakayoko would have been far better to keep but both are not championship level.Biamou isn't good enough to be a back up option for us, it's time to let go.
They were already here, proven and had earned the extension. Important to show good management by extending the contracts of those who show ability, commitment and loyalty.we signed godden on an extended contract until 34 virtually, we extended Mcfazdean we’ve signed Bidwell on all but a 4 year contract - we will spend what we spend and chose waghorn
Why that equates to biamou at all I’ve no idea
They were already here, proven and had earned the extension. Important to show good management by extending the contracts of those who show ability, commitment and loyalty.
Waghorn - no.
Agree, but then I think him a strange signing too. Less so than Waghorn though.Bidwell wasn’t here
Agree, but then I think him a strange signing too. Less so than Waghorn though.
Fadz and Godden also have the late-to-league aspect. Often players who aren’t full time all through their developing years end up playing longer. Perhaps it’s less wear and tear. There are Doyle like exceptions but they are exceptions rather than the rule.
And mostly sent on loan to non league, where he ended permanently until 25late to league aspect?
godden was playing in tbe championship at 19
Not a scapegoat, a strange / risky / out of model plan signing that hasn’t, by any measure, been a success.So Waghorn is the latest scapegoat?
Although he has another year on his contract I'd expect he would find another club in close season without too much difficulty if the club was happy to let him go on a free
Not a scapegoat, a strange / risky / out of model plan signing that hasn’t, by any measure, been a success.
I do find that should unfortunate truths be pointed out on here then there’s a load of “your latest boo-boy?” type of reaction.
I used to point out that Sheaf needed to work on his retention but he had talent. He seems to have sorted that.
Waghorn was a poor judgment imo.
Not boo boys. Not scapegoats. Just views.
So Waghorn is the latest scapegoat?
Although he has another year on his contract I'd expect he would find another club in close season without too much difficulty if the club was happy to let him go on a free
Thanks, I must have missed then, can you link them please?or the SBT thread about themtheyve Come out I’m quoting from them
At one point he ran away from O’Hare pass and had the nerve tO blame O’HareWaghorn was embarrassingly bad yesterday. His ball control was abysmal and as someone said earlier, he turned his back on play numerous times.
He is overweight and unbelievably slow. Think we have to accept this time we have signed a donkey on its last legs.
I just hope next pre season we get it right mate,How he stayed ahead of Walker is a joke at least walker offered goal scoring,Waghorn finishing is shocking and his legs are gone
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