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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #316
GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
Were you at the game yesterday or wolves or Forest? I understand someone saying he isn’t fitting the system and hasn’t set the world alight, although my retort would be we’ve played two league games and it’s far too early to make a proper judgement on that. But for someone to say he’s lazy, I don’t believe you could have watched a game so far. He runs his bollocks off but it currently hasn’t translated into an all round performance


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Agree we are all to eager to write of players I'm just as guilty. But it's just an initial observation.

He's a good player .But Jury is out if he plays better this season than Biamou did last year.

I thought he would be 1st choice on Rep. But having seen him. He's 4th I'm my eyes.

That's not disrespecting him.

As Gyro/Walker/Godden are just better.
 
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covboy9

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #317
The 4 strikers we have are all good players, waghorn will do well
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #318
Greggs said:
would actually say Max offered more.....
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #319
Liquid Gold said:
I think Gyo and Walker would be my pick but if Godden does things like that it’ll be difficult not to play him.

Gyokeres is leading the line well and the other two will pinch a goal. If Waghorn doesn’t start affecting games more proactively he’ll drop down the order.
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Gyokeres is making himself first name on the sheet at the moment. Walker and Godden both natural finishers will be all about form. I can’t see Waghorn getting a look in TBH unless he reinvents himself as an AM when we play the box/Callum Hardman O’Hare gets suspended.
 
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speedie87

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #320
He’s a seasoned old pro, when it gets to winter the pitches have turned and our other forwards are tired he’ll prove his worth.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #321
shmmeee said:
Gyokeres is making himself first name on the sheet at the moment. Walker and Godden both natural finishers will be all about form. I can’t see Waghorn getting a look in TBH unless he reinvents himself as an AM when we play the box/Callum Hardman O’Hare gets suspended.
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Excellent agree 100%
 

CDK

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #322
Have to say the game changed in our favour when he went off,he works hard when on the pitch I'm hoping he shows his quality during this season but when godden ,walker are fit can't see him anywhere but the the bench.think he's a good squad player as back up to the other 3 strikers.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #323
CDK said:
Have to say the game changed in our favour when he went off,he works hard when on the pitch I'm hoping he shows his quality during this season but when godden ,walker are fit can't see him anywhere but the the bench.think he's a good squad player as back up to the other 3 strikers.
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He doesn’t fit into our style of play
 

Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #324
Grendel said:
no biamou offered literally nothing - if he was in the team now it would be as an act of charity
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When Waghorn makes an impact like this for example vs a promoted team. Like Biamou did.
Vs Brentford.
Won Penalty.
Won the ball off defender for assist.

Has a massive winning impact on a game as a striker.

This is one example.

I'd be very happy when Waghorn does this.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #325
rob9872 said:
Gave the ball away in midfield before the pen and not worth his 20 grand today
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Poor Hamer pass I thought. Waghorn will do a job for us over the season. Agree with NW though, if everyone’s fit he’ll probably end up more as back up to Gyokeres, playing alongside one of Godden or Walker. Gyokeres runs himself into the ground so can see Waghorn coming on in a fair few games to keep pressure/intensity up
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #326
He's been very disappointing, like I've said he looks so laboured.
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #327
CCFCSteve said:
Poor Hamer pass I thought. Waghorn will do a job for us over the season. Agree with NW though, if everyone’s fit he’ll probably end up more as back up to Gyokeres, playing alongside one of Godden or Walker. Gyokeres runs himself into the ground so can see Waghorn coming on in a fair few games to keep pressure/intensity up
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30k a week as back up = waste of budget
 
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Greggs

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #328
Back to my best......
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #329
I think Waghorn will eventually be cover for Gyokeres rather than a partner for him.
They seem to want to go for the same ball and take up similar positions, I think Walker is possibly the most suited to playing off a Gyokeres/waghorn. Godden is good enough to play with any of the 3, so it will be interesting to see who gets to start when they are all fit and available.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #330
Deleted member 5849 said:
Long term it's got to surely be one of Gyo / Wag alongside one of Walk / God, hasn't it?
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I'd have Gyo and either Walker or Godden first, but if Gyo was unavailable I'd probably play Walker and Godden together first than pair either up with Waghorn.

But saying that I think those two would be better partners for Waghorn than Gyo.
 

cc84cov

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #331
fatso said:
I think Waghorn will eventually be cover for Gyokeres rather than a partner for him.
They seem to want to go for the same ball and take up similar positions, I think Walker is possibly the most suited to playing off a Gyokeres/waghorn. Godden is good enough to play with any of the 3, so it will be interesting to see who gets to start when they are all fit and available.
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Waghorn was brought on to lead the line now he’s talked about as back up
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #332
cc84cov said:
Waghorn was brought on to lead the line now he’s talked about as back up
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Yep, he's not been good enough, yet!
 

Offhegoes

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #333
I thought he looked lively in the first 20-25 mins but was clearly knackered by the 2nd half. On the evidence so far he’s 4th choice striker, which makes his signing all the more strange, could of given Biamou another year
 
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lordy_87

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #334
Get off his back and give him time
 
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Greggs

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #335
lordy_87 said:
Get off his back and give him time
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he's nearly 32..........
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #336
lordy_87 said:
Get off his back and give him time
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Looks like he’s got enough on his back already
 

Greggs

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #337
shmmeee said:
Looks like he’s got enough on his back already
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but we can't question his age, wage or determination incase he takes to twitter again........
 

larry_david

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #338
I'd be looking to ship him out already tbh. Admit we've made a mistake and move on*





*Or give him time, ya know. Whatever works best
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #339
Waghorn will have a part to play no doubt. I think its realisation that it's alot of wages on him. And if only we had another chance to use thise huge reported wages elsewhere. But you can't win them all. Gykores is a bargain/masterstroke.
 
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cc84cov

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  • Aug 21, 2021
  • #340
shmmeee said:
Looks like he’s got enough on his back already
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That’s his wages mate
 

Pete in Portugal

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #341
cc84cov said:
He doesn’t fit into our style of play
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He might though, given at bit of time.
 

Otis

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #342
covboy9 said:
The 4 strikers we have are all good players, waghorn will do well
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Yup.

We need to give him time. We are only 4 league games in.
 
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slowpoke

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #343
Waghorn worked the line well moving the centre backs about was good but our final passes to our front two and crosses weren’t the best first half.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #344
slowpoke said:
Waghorn worked the line well moving the centre backs about was good but our final passes to our front two and crosses weren’t the best first half.
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To be fair to Waghorn he hasn't really missed or had any clear cut chances.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #345
He’s still a colossal upgrade on our previous ‘number 9’.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #346
Sick Boy said:
He’s still a colossal upgrade on our previous ‘number 9’.
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At 5 x the cost he should be which most arnt convinced he actually you fool.
 
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nmp2327

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #347
Let's be fair to him, in the first half there was hardly a ball delivered into the box for him to feed off, then Sheaf took an absolute cert off him. In the 2nd half, excellent cross by Dabo and we score. Let's not throw Waghorn under the cart until we see service into the box like Dabo delivers
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #348
He does a lot off the ball which helps other players but can go unappreciated by the fans. He does look like he is still trying to fit in and nothing is falling for him.

Yesterday he was in the right position for a couple of simple tap ins if the ball hadn't stuck to their keeper.

The one time he got clean away we were given off side. My initial reaction was no way was Waghorn off side. But from where they took the free kick it must have been for Gyokeres coming back from an off side position to flick ball on with his head.

I wouldn't give up on him yet.
 
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The Philosopher

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #349
My observations:

Our style of play this year seems to revolve around having Gyok as a raiding target man with with either two runners behind him (COH, Bright, JA, etc) or another striker playing off him (TW, MG, MW etc).

Problem is, who stands in for Gyok if injured / banned?

I hate saying it, because I know it’ll be torn apart, but Max was the only one who could possibly play there that wouldn’t have blown the budget.

For the rumoured amount we are playing MW I’d have rather lumped most of that on Walsh (a player we may get a fee from in future) or a similar young but established midfielder and kept Max as Gyok’s stuntman.

Nothing against MW, but he’s not going to be first name on the team sheet, he’a an ok player but an expensive ok squad player at best, plus what happens if Gyok is injured? Our attack doesn’t look like we have any tall target men in the squad. Even Baka had a bit of height.


Soz and all that.
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 22, 2021
  • #350
The Philosopher said:
My observations:

Our style of play this year seems to revolve around having Gyok as a raiding target man with with either two runners behind him (COH, Bright, JA, etc) or another striker playing off him (TW, MG, MW etc).

Problem is, who stands in for Gyok if injured / banned?

I hate saying it, because I know it’ll be torn apart, but Max was the only one who could possibly play there that wouldn’t have blown the budget.

For the rumoured amount we are playing MW I’d have rather lumped most of that on Walsh (a player we may get a few from in future) or a similar young but established midfielder and kept Max as Gyok’s stuntman.

Nothing against MW, but he’s not going to be first name on the team sheet, he’a an ok player but an expensive ok squad player at best.

Soz and all that.
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100% .Max was last year battering ram. Gyro is this year's battering ram but just better stronger fitter.
 
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