USSR invades Ukraine. (4 Viewers)

Grendel

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The spreadsheeter has become the spreadsheetee!

Well done but hardly a gotcha moment

Again we are not and we should not get involved ever militarily in Ukraine it’s not a threat to us what happens there
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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No attempt at mitigation from the us and NATO to get a practical solution and a settlement
Which would be what? Giving Russia part of Ukraine? Yeah, that'd go down well and pretty much say NATO is spineless. Imagine what the Kremlin would make of that with the Russian population. Not to mention how it would look to the Chinese.
 

Grendel

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Lol don’t try to pretend you were just talking about military intervention, you were specifically referring to sanctions as well!

Ah yes they are going well - petrol prices what a hoot
 

Grendel

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Petrol prices were of course rising very sharply before any sanctions were put in place or even before the war started.

It’s gone up by almost 50 pence a litre since the war started but of course that’s a complete co incidence
 

PVA

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It’s gone up by almost 50 pence a litre since the war started but of course that’s a complete co incidence

But how much of that was because of sanctions, which was your point, and how much of it was because of the war itself?
 

skybluetony176

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It’s gone up by almost 50 pence a litre since the war started but of course that’s a complete co incidence
The pound crashing over the same period is at least as equal to blame. Crude oil like most commodities in the world are traded in dollars and at some point that’s converted into pounds and that’s driving the price of everything up.
 

PVA

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Two and a half months since the start of the Battle of Donbas when Russia were supposedly about to steamroller Ukraine (again)... They've made little progress.



 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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This is interesting...... Obviously the likes of China & India etc. are continuing to do very nice business with Russia but whne you see the amount of companies from USA, France, Germany & Italy, for example, it certainly raises questions over how truly commited to the Ukranian cause some of these countries actually are....

 

Grendel

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I personaly think this war will be prolonged & exploited by "allies" of both sides for many years to come.......

Maintaining and propping up the Ukrainians to keep a war there for several years is the dream ticket for the West
 

Grendel

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Won’t that affect petrol and food prices or is that what you mean? It excuses anything bad happening

It occupies Russia and drains their resources and will take all their focus. The eu and other countries continue to pump billions into Russia while showing a concerned face
 

fernandopartridge

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This is interesting...... Obviously the likes of China & India etc. are continuing to do very nice business with Russia but whne you see the amount of companies from USA, France, Germany & Italy, for example, it certainly raises questions over how truly commited to the Ukranian cause some of these countries actually are....


Well the USA uses all wars to increase american company market share and what's happened with LNG?
 

CCFCSteve

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Maintaining and propping up the Ukrainians to keep a war there for several years is the dream ticket for the West

Not unless they can find a way to get inflation down pretty quickly, which will be tricky whilst the wars continuing with oil, gas and some food (wheat etc) prices likely to remain high.

If they don’t they’ll all be out of office by the time the wars over. US inflation is a bit different but Europe will be pretty fucked if the war continues longer term unless alternatives/alternative providers to those items can be found quick
 

Grendel

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Not unless they can find a way to get inflation down pretty quickly, which will be tricky whilst the wars continuing with oil, gas and some food (wheat etc) prices likely to remain high.

If they don’t they’ll all be out of office by the time the wars over. US inflation is a bit different but Europe will be pretty fucked if the war continues longer term unless alternatives/alternative providers to those items can be found quick

Fuel is a factor from the war but inflation is a combination of many factors - and Europe is a motley crew of coalitions that are hooked on Russian gas - the US will see huge benefits here from prolonging the war without actual involvement
 

PVA

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They might well now, now they can focus on it...

They have been focused it for months!

Plus Ukraine are now targeting Russian supply and ammo hubs behind the lines with the missiles and artillery supplied by the west, hopefully this can have a big effect.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Fuel is a factor from the war but inflation is a combination of many factors - and Europe is a motley crew of coalitions that are hooked on Russian gas - the US will see huge benefits here from prolonging the war without actual involvement

Agree that US will benefit (LNG) from a prolonged war, especially as they’re shielded from some of the ‘war inflation’ but the West generally won’t
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Maintaining and propping up the Ukrainians to keep a war there for several years is the dream ticket for the West
Particularly the yanks.
 

Flying Fokker

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It occupies Russia and drains their resources and will take all their focus. The eu and other countries continue to pump billions into Russia while showing a concerned face
Ain’t life great…Ukraine is a mere pawn in the wonderful world of Geopolitics and control.
 

shmmeee

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Russian Security Council Secretary and Putin confidante saying full scale regime change is still the aim.
 

PVA

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Russia have taken an 'operational pause' in the fighting.

Nothing to do with all the attacks on their ammo/supply depots I'm sure.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Russian Security Council Secretary and Putin confidante saying full scale regime change is still the aim.
Perhaps they might try and take the whole country after Donbas. Shock, horror !
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Well they can try I suppose. They won't be able to though.
No, but they can destroy the vast majority of it.
 

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