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Matt smith

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,921
Saddlebrains said:
i wont be panicking just yet

However one thing i will say

If we do lose Gyok or Hamer and dont replace at all

We will go down
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Similar trail of thought saddle
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,922
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
£17m would be my guess - including all staff. If it was £20m, that would equate to every player at the club being on £15k pw.
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It was £15 m before the signing of waghorn Bidwell etc and the contract hikes
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,923
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,924
WGABSOOS said:
Creative players get higher bids. Sheaf is more valuable to the team not financially but purely playing wise. Who would you rely on defensively if we are under the cosh? Hamer gets booked every game hardly disciplined. Sheaf performing his job allows hamer the time to create .
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Arguing how many yellow cards Hamer gets is nothing to do with this. You said the Sheaf was more valuable, which is complete nonsense.


Cov Kiwi said:
I must have missed this? When did we turn down £8m?
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It is a figure taken from transfer rumours of several clubs including Brighton, Leeds, and Brentford. If he goes it will be somewhere between 5 and 10 million, which is still several million more than Sheaf would go for. The entire point of this ridiculous argument.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,925
Grendel said:
It was £15 m before the signing of waghorn Bidwell etc and the contract hikes
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At the start of last season we had Mason, Jobello, Kastaneer and Bright on the books which would've been factored into that £15m - all of which have now moved on and therefore would've likely covered Bidwell's salary for this season and more.

I doubt the signing of Waghorn, as well as increases to Hamer, O'Hare, Hyam, Allen and Godden totalled more than around £2m max.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,926
mr_monkey said:
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Pretty classless if that is a joke.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,927
Cov Kiwi said:
So you made the £8m up. I’ve heard £9m mentioned for Sheaf. He must be better.
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Which was the last user name you got banned for?
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,928
Cov Kiwi said:
So you made the £8m up. I’ve heard £9m mentioned for Sheaf. He must be better.
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and you must be warthog, boosh, etc, you stand out a mile u clown
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,929
Cov Kiwi said:
Wow nothing gets past you does it, missed me?
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got a good eye to spot a c**t out when I see one, still waiting for your DM hun.
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,930
Just read the Robins interview and he really has made a U-turn, smaller squad higher quality, Sisu out
 

cooperskyblue

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,931
Saddlebrains said:
i wont be panicking just yet

However one thing i will say

If we do lose Gyok or Hamer and dont replace at all

We will go down
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No we won't. We were a very very good side last year, and not far off being a consistent challenger for top 6.
Whilst I agree not replacing would be a severe mis step we wouldn't go down. We have a lot of very good players who will only get better.
I've thought for a long while that this is Robins most challenging window.

3rd season back in the Champ and if you had asked any of us 4 or 5 years ago we would be moaning about potentially finishing mid table again we would have all accepted it.

It's all ifs, buts and maybes and I believe in this manager and the players we have that we will again play good football and have some memorable moments. Let's see how the squad looks in 5 weeks time.
 
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cooperskyblue

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,932
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Just read the Robins interview and he really has made a U-turn, smaller squad higher quality, Sisu out
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Isn't that what we would rather want? Better quality? Or a big squad of average players who just aren't going to feature.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,933
rather get quality over quantity any day.

think we will be in a good place by the time the season starts.....PUSB
 
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mr_monkey

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,934
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Pretty classless if that is a joke.
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Just keeping in line with the rest of the thread as people seem to be majorly depressed about our season already i just wanted them to know that there are people around who can help
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,935
cooperskyblue said:
Isn't that what we would rather want? Better quality? Or a big squad of average players who just aren't going to feature.
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I would have thought he would want to add quality to what we have already got rather than keep the squad small, he said he had a conversation with DB and Sisu and they were gonna opperate with a bigger squad and he has made a U-turn on that now, a broken promise I think, cant have too many because Robins will lose trust and walk
 
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saveitforthewombles

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,936
One of the problems last season was options off the bench. Don;t see any need to panic - manager signed a new contract, assuming that included talks around financial planning moving forward. Brought one in who is an upgrade on those who have moved out.
 
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Samo

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,937
Deity said:
The Robins comments re operating with a smaller squad are a u turn on his close of season comments so something has changed.
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Yes I thought that was worrying. Clearly the extra investment being sought has not materialized.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,938
Bugsy said:
rather get quality over quantity any day.

think we will be in a good place start of the season.....PUSB
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Yeah I agree we will be in a good place but it seems Robins has made a U-turn
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,939
cooperskyblue said:
Isn't that what we would rather want? Better quality? Or a big squad of average players who just aren't going to feature.
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Was just about to post similar. It only falls down if you have a lot of injuries and no cover, If that happens, hopefully it only affects a minimal number of games. that is where a Ryan Howley type gets their chance to shine (or not) !

Edit: some of our incomings will be dependent (as has been said elsewhere) upon the likes of Kane, Waghorn, Walker et al freeing up some funds to wheeler deal.
 

Bugsy

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,940
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Yeah I agree we will be in a good place but it seems Robins has made a U-turn
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maybe that's his choice and he has come to realise that he rather has one player of Gyok calibre to two players of Waghorn and Walker effort and ability for instance.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,941
'At least COH didn't go'.

I can see people bargaining with themselves as time goes on.

Obviously we won't know until the transfer dealings are done, but these sound bites coming out are a bit depressing to say the least.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,942
cooperskyblue said:
Isn't that what we would rather want? Better quality? Or a big squad of average players who just aren't going to feature.
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My issue is it seems Robins has changed his tune, perhaps a broken promise by Sisu and DB, cant have too many or trust will be broken
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,943
Bugsy said:
maybe that's his choice and he has come to realise that he rather has one player of Gyok calibre to two players of Waghorn and Walker effort and ability for instance.
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Perhaps but I dont think it was down to him fully, I think DB and Sisu may have played a role in it
 
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saveitforthewombles

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,944
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
'At least COH didn't go'.

I can see people bargaining with themselves as time goes on.

Obviously we won't know until the transfer dealings are done, but these sound bites coming out are a bit depressing to say the least.
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What are you talking about? We want to keep our best players, if valuations are met that's different but we'll have contingencies (as we always have), we want more quality, we have until Sept 1st to get things in place....not sure what's so depressing.

Stop the guesswork. Trust in the process - it's been working.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,945
I wonder as it took us 100 pages to get the first signing, if we speed up to 200 pages on this thread if the second signing will be announced
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,946
saveitforthewombles said:
What are you talking about? We want to keep our best players, if valuations are met that's different but we'll have contingencies (as we always have), we want more quality, we have until Sept 1st to get things in place....not sure what's so depressing.

Stop the guesswork. Trust in the process - it's been working.
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I am talking about the words coming from the trusted ITK's and the latest interview by Robins. Are you able to read those?

We are looking at selling Hamer, and possibly even Gyokeres with almost none of that being reinvested into the team.

'The process' as you call it looks like it might be nearing the end of its course, so it is right to be a bit concerned. I did mention that we should wait until the end of the window (which you ignored), but the things being said by trusted sources is massively worrying.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,947
Transfer window so far = EMBARRASSING (in caps clearly)
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,948
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I am talking about the words coming from the trusted ITK's and the latest interview by Robins. Are you able to read those?

We are looking at selling Hamer, and possibly even Gyokeres with almost none of that being reinvested into the team.

'The process' as you call it looks like it might be nearing the end of its course, so it is right to be a bit concerned. I did mention that we should wait until the end of the window (which you ignored), but the things being said by trusted sources is massively worrying.
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I think SBB was suggesting if one were to be sold then only their wages would be able to be used to bring in replacements.
 
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saveitforthewombles

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,949
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I am talking about the words coming from the trusted ITK's and the latest interview by Robins. Are you able to read those?

We are looking at selling Hamer, and possibly even Gyokeres with almost none of that being reinvested into the team.

'The process' as you call it looks like it might be nearing the end of its course, so it is right to be a bit concerned. I did mention that we should wait until the end of the window (which you ignored), but the things being said by trusted sources is massively worrying.
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So you're saying that Robins signed a contract at the end of the season and was then completely blindsided by the fact that the club all of sudden wanted to sell the best players without any of those funds going into rebuilding? Seems an odd thing to sign up to. Even odder given the financial outlook (if anything) would be better now given season ticket and shirt sales. Yet the ITKs know more than we're being told by a (usually reserved) manager via the press when he says that yes, every player has a price but the recruitment team is then tasked with going out and finding better?
 

Bugsy

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,950
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Perhaps but I dont think it was down to him fully, I think DB and Sisu may have played a role in it
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unfortunately I can't agree, as I think its more to do with being more shrewd with the budget than Joy and Boddy making false promises to be fair mate.

learning from past mistakes e.g, Hillsner, Da Costa and co ..PUSB
 
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Matt smith

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,951
saveitforthewombles said:
So you're saying that Robins signed a contract at the end of the season and was then completely blindsided by the fact that the club all of sudden wanted to sell the best players without any of those funds going into rebuilding? Seems an odd thing to sign up to. Even odder given the financial outlook (if anything) would be better now given season ticket and shirt sales. Yet the ITKs know more than we're being told by a (usually reserved) manager via the press when he says that yes, every player has a price but the recruitment team is then tasked with going out and finding better?
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I actually feel more positive after reading what he said in the CET
 

mr_monkey

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,952
So to sum up the last few pages, we know nothing but that means it's all going to go to shit

We are going to sell Hamer and Vik and get no players to replace them because we are doing up the training ground and Sisu have taken all the money (bad Sisu) and robins is pissed off and going to leave because he wants quality over quantity

Oh and boosh is back pretending to be a fruit, Matt Smith really isn't cc84cov and earlsdon has shocked everyone by being over negative for no valid reason

Have I missed anything?
 
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saveitforthewombles

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,953
Matt smith said:
I actually feel more positive after reading what he said in the CET
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haha, me too! no 'the goalposts have shifted' or 'we have to trade'
 
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saveitforthewombles

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,954
mr_monkey said:
So to sum up the last few pages, we know nothing but that means it's all going to go to shit

We are going to sell Hamer and Vik and get no players to replace them because we are doing up the training ground and Sisu have taken all the money (bad Sisu) and robins is pissed off and going to leave because he wants quality over quantity

Oh and boosh is back pretending to be a fruit, Matt Smith really isn't cc84cov and earlsdon has shocked everyone by being over negative for no valid reason

Have I missed anything?
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you got it - selling hamer and gyokeres to pay for a new training pitch and to give sisu a return.....all of which wasnt explained to Robins 6 weeks ago when he signed his new contract and talked about an exciting future.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 23, 2022
  • #3,955
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
At the start of last season we had Mason, Jobello, Kastaneer and Bright on the books which would've been factored into that £15m - all of which have now moved on and therefore would've likely covered Bidwell's salary for this season and more.

I doubt the signing of Waghorn, as well as increases to Hamer, O'Hare, Hyam, Allen and Godden totalled more than around £2m max.
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Gyokeres, Bidwell, Kane, Sheaf (would be on a higher pay when permanent ) and Moore
 
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