#WEHOLDALLTHECARDS!!Our government unwilling to give any details about the deal, because it's a fucking awful one for the UK, but the Australian government have released all the details because it's so great for them.
We basically did the worst deal imaginable just so we could say we've done a deal.
For me the telling thing is if it was any good the government would be shouting about it from the rooftops. They ain’t. If anything they’re trying to bury it in the cellar. That on its own speaks volumes.I don’t know enough about the trade deal yet to comment (not sure Haggis does either) but there’s noises about the fact this is potentially a breakthrough trade deal in relation to services (trade deals are usually focussed on goods) and could also lead way to joining Trans-Pacific partnership
The standard is no fan of Brexit yet appears to be alluding to that fact as well.
Also from the FT
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‘The City also welcomed the deal. Miles Celic, chief executive of TheCityUK lobby group, described the agreement as a “substantial achievement”, adding that it showed “the UK has the ambition and expertise to negotiate real commercial benefits through an independent trade and investment policy”.
Liz Truss, international trade secretary, said on Tuesday it paved the way for the UK to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership, a group of 11 countries’
If we've done a deal with Australia what is the advantage to them to allow us into the CPTPP to compete with them?Liz Truss, international trade secretary, said on Tuesday it paved the way for the UK to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership, a group of 11 countries’
We also have already virtually mirrored the EU/Japan trade deal. I think I read somewhere that NZ want the same deal as Australia or forget it. We’ve already signed a rollover deal with Canada IIRC. I think we did the same with Mexico. Who’s left?If we've done a deal with Australia what is the advantage to them to allow us into the CPTPP to compete with them?
For me the telling thing is if it was any good the government would be shouting about it from the rooftops. They ain’t. If anything they’re trying to bury it in the cellar. That on its own speaks volumes.
That is true. But here’s the problem. The positives don’t only have to out weigh the negatives within the trade deal itself it also has to out weigh the negatives of leaving the EU to obtain the trade deal with Australia. We have the Australian government saying there are no negatives for them only positives. It’s been muted that we need 2000 of these trade deals to equal being in the EU. And most telling our own government aren’t out selling the positives, even to them it seems an anti climax and they haven’t even disputed the 2000 trade deal claim to my knowledge. That also begs the question. Are there actually 2000 trade deals to be done in the world? I think that there’s only 195 member states of the UN isn’t there? Where’s the other 1804 trade deals coming from exactly?If that was the case then why even do it ?! The devil will be in the detail as with all these things. Some good, some bad but both FT and Standard (remain leaning) at least highlighted some positive stuff
If that was the case then why even do it ?! The devil will be in the detail as with all these things. Some good, some bad but both FT and Standard (remain leaning) at least highlighted some positive stuff
Even the Brexit press don’t seem to be waving the flags on this that much.Because the majority don't care about the detail, so the government just have to crow about a trade deal with Australia, call it a Brexit win, and the majority lap it up with 'great job Boris/Liz!'.
A country that’s not even part of the G7 tore us a new A hole in trade negotiations and are gloating about it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Liz Truss even knows what she’s signed if the Northern Ireland protocol is anything to go by. At this rate we’ll have to rejoin just to undo this government’s heavily backed against us trade deals.
Scumbags.I wonder what this pleasant chap's reasons for voting Leave were
I wonder what this pleasant chap's reasons for voting Leave were
Different countries have different policies.What's going on with the EU and AstraZeneca these days?
What's going on with the EU and AstraZeneca these days?
They're still making a complete arse of it, does negate the stories above?
Bloody foreigners stealing our jobs.Meat sector warns of Brexit production squeeze
UK faces shortage of home-reared chickens as EU workers stay away, says trade group.www.bbc.co.uk
UK faces chilled food shortage over summer, logistics industry warns
Shortage of HGV drivers and workers exacerbated by Brexit and Covid is creating ‘real crisis of food supplies’amp.theguardian.com
Spoken like a true Marxist. Improving working conditions, whatever next. Welcome to the club.Here's an idea , wild one as i work in this industry .
Pay them good money and put them on contracts to protect them , instead of trying to get them all on agencies as LTD drivers , and stop trying to squeeze every possible hour from them whilst bending the law in the process .
Simple really
Nobody wants to do the job anymore , this has been happening slowly for years , before brexit infact , less people want to sleep in their cabs ..not a shock
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Spoken like a true Marxist. Improving working conditions, whatever next. Welcome to the club.
There is the small point though that we have a complete shortage of workers, not just HGV drivers. Coming over all Marxist and improving working conditions for drivers isn’t going to cure the bigger issue. It just means a small amount of people might say that actually being a lorry driver isn’t that bad after all and give it a go. Not enough British people want to do the jobs where there’s shortages and so long as there’s enough jobs going around that they have the choice not to do them they won’t. It’s as simple as that. EU membership allowed us to fill those gaps and grow the economy to boot. Labour shortages may just yet prove to be the biggest factor in a stalling recovery.
Here's an idea , wild one as i work in this industry .
Pay them good money and put them on contracts to protect them , instead of trying to get them all on agencies as LTD drivers , and stop trying to squeeze every possible hour from them whilst bending the law in the process .
Simple really
Nobody wants to do the job anymore , this has been happening slowly for years , before brexit infact , less people want to sleep in their cabs ..not a shock
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