The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (4 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

Is this the thread when Grenners decided he had the greatest idea to make the UK great again and it was to devalue the pound?

The comedy as both left and right laughed at him.

That was back when he was pretend to be a successful businessman

 

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[Grendel]

Is this the thread when Grenners decided he had the greatest idea to make the UK great again and it was to devalue the pound?

The comedy as both left and right laughed at him.

That was back when he was pretend to be a successful businessman

Oh dear it’s Meths O Clock again

 

[skybluetony176]

You're absolutely right, the other 62% must be idiots.

CON+10

Just the 25% who think it’s going well to some degree. Can’t blame people for still not being sure.

 

[Hertsccfc]

The Tonester and stats have never been natural bedfellows

Can't believe you suggesting anyone else has problems with stats

 

[Grendel]

Can't believe you suggesting anyone else has problems with stats

I certainly have no problem with them

 

[PVA]

25% of people think Brexit is going well and that's apparently a strong result for Brexiters?

Just admit you were lied to and it's a shit show.

 

[Deleted member 11652]

25% of people think Brexit is going well and that's apparently a strong result for Brexiters?

Just admit you were lied to and it's a shit show.

Don’t you hate Europeans? I think you prefer them to women tbf

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I think the reality is that those sectors that traditionally relied on temporary immigration are indeed having to stump up more, whilst the economic outlook for other sectors remains to be understood. Personally, I'm in favour of a rationalisation in the service sector and in parts of farming if it means improved wages, tenure and training offer (which is what some reports are saying), at the expense of higher prices at the till and a possibly a rationalisation of consumption. I fully appreciate that not all will share this view.

On a slightly different tact, I see the Govt is making noises about dropping the degree entry into the civil service, to focus more on apprenticeships and relevant work industry experience, not least in the hope that it encourages a move away from a degrees-only culture. Not a bad thing, I think.

There’s not even a need for 5 gcse including English and maths and hasn’t been for years to enter the civil service

 

[PVA]

Don’t you hate Europeans? I think you prefer them to women tbf

I'm massively pro-remain and massively pro-freedom of movement, and you think that means I hate Europeans?

You never did answer me - are you for or against freedom of movement?

 

[Deleted member 11652]

I'm massively pro-remain and massively pro-freedom of movement, and you think that means I hate Europeans?

You never did answer me - are you for or against freedom of movement?

We all know the reason you’re pro - freedom of movement and it’s not nice. Are you massively pro - women’s rights?

 

[Deleted member 4439]

There’s not even a need for 5 gcse including English and maths and hasn’t been for years to enter the civil service

Fair play, not referring to roles such as AO and EO. Certain roles at HEO will require a degree. Most roles at SEO and above will express a preference for a degree in my Department certainly. Indeed, I once hired a lad who after he'd accepted the post rang me to confess that he didn't have a degree. I was relaxed about it though it take some squaring off with HR.

 

[PVA]

We all know the reason you’re pro - freedom of movement and it’s not nice. Are you massively pro - women’s rights?

I'm pro freedom of movement for all manner of reasons, all of them good. Fuck off with your unfounded accusations that you've just parroted off your hero Grendel.

You still haven't answered. It's a very simple question. Are you for or against freedom of movement?

 

[Deleted member 11652]

I'm pro freedom of movement for all manner of reasons, all of them good. Fuck off with your unfounded accusations that you've just parroted off your hero Grendel.

You still haven't answered. It's a very simple question. Are you for or against freedom of movement?

Grendel is no longer my hero as he didn’t follow me back on Twitter. Sorry to disappoint

 

[PVA]

What's this, another Brexit win? Great work Liz!!!









Oh.

 

[SBT]

I think that trade deal is of more strategic importance than economic importance tbh. Not going to transform our economy overnight (although I’m sure some government ministers will spin it that way regardless) but it’s a good thing for us to be part of it.

 

[PVA]

Yes exactly - it's not a bad thing, no bad will come of it. But as you say it's the ridiculous spin surrounding it that is just way over the top.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Five years ago today we voted to leave, where have those years gone?
It’s flown by!!

 

[PVA]

Five years ago today we voted to leave, where have those years gone?
It’s flown by!!

And in what way(s) has your life improved as a result of Brexit since voting leave 5 years ago?

 

[It’sabatch87]

I was just commenting that it was five years that’s all

 

[PVA]

I was just commenting that it was five years that’s all

Fair enough

It was a genuine question though. As a Leave voter, has your life improved as a result of Brexit?

 

[It’sabatch87]

Nothings changed to be fair.
The only reason I voted leave was because of the smug remainers thinking they’ll piss it.
Whether they were left,Right or whatever.
My vote had nothing to do with Farage.
Just wanted to give the establishment a bloody nose.
There you go there’s my answer.
What’s your reason for the way you voted?

 

[PVA]

That's fair enough and you're obviously entitled to vote however you wish and for whatever reasons you wish, but that's just such an odd stance to take.

How exactly have 'the establishment' been given a bloody nose?
How is voting to make the country worse off just to spite a group of people a good thing?


I voted Remain for many reasons - being part of the EU is clearly incredibly beneficial and we're finding that out the hard way now.

 

[SBAndy]

Nothings changed to be fair.
The only reason I voted leave was because of the smug remainers thinking they’ll piss it.
Whether they were left,Right or whatever.
My vote had nothing to do with Farage.
Just wanted to give the establishment a bloody nose.
There you go there’s my answer.
What’s your reason for the way you voted?

Ah yes, the establishment really felt that. To be honest, I don’t know how they’ll ever recover from a true ‘man of the people’ and tearaway [checks notes] Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson becoming PM.

 

[Skybluefaz]

Nothings changed to be fair.
The only reason I voted leave was because of the smug remainers thinking they’ll piss it.
Whether they were left,Right or whatever.
My vote had nothing to do with Farage.
Just wanted to give the establishment a bloody nose.
There you go there’s my answer.
What’s your reason for the way you voted?

Siding with the plucky underdog below to give the establishment a bloody nose. Let us know when you realise.

 

[Sick Boy]

Nothings changed to be fair.
The only reason I voted leave was because of the smug remainers thinking they’ll piss it.
Whether they were left,Right or whatever.
My vote had nothing to do with Farage.
Just wanted to give the establishment a bloody nose.
There you go there’s my answer.
What’s your reason for the way you voted?

The likes of Johnson, Gove, Farage etc are all part of an elite establishment.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Ah yes, the establishment really felt that. To be honest, I don’t know how they’ll ever recover from a true ‘man of the people’ and tearaway [checks notes] Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson becoming PM.

Zzzzzzzzzzz

 

[PVA]

Seriously, who are the establishment and how has Brexit given them a bloody nose? Genuine question.

 

[skybluetony176]

Seriously, who are the establishment and how has Brexit given them a bloody nose? Genuine question.

Is it the same 3 super rich, non dom, murdered teenage girl phone bugging , families that own the majority of MSM while pretending to be in the minority promoted Brexit on behalf of hedge funds, elitists and other non doms such as Dyson? They really had their noses bloodied on this.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Seriously, who are the establishment and how has Brexit given them a bloody nose? Genuine question.

Politicians on the left and right so smug like Paddy Pantsdown rip I’ll eat my hat if leave win.
They don’t understand the working man whether they are left or right.

 

[PVA]

Politicians on the left and right so smug like Paddy Pantsdown rip I’ll eat my hat if leave win.
They don’t understand the working man whether they are left or right.

But all Brexit has done, and will continue to do, is make those type of people richer while everyone else gets poorer. I really don't think that's the bloody nose you think it is

 

[skybluetony176]

Politicians on the left and right so smug like Paddy Pantsdown rip I’ll eat my hat if leave win.
They don’t understand the working man whether they are left or right.

Unlike Rees-Mogg, Lord Dyson, Lord Bamford, The Barclay brothers, The Murdoch family, Aaron Banks etc etc etc. People who basically want to get richer at the expense of the working man and promoted Brexit.

 

[shmmeee]

Fascinated by how one extreme hated by centrist politicians on both sides gets public support while another gets lambasted. Farage and Corbyn were basically the same message. I do wonder whether if Brexit hadn’t been a thing Corbyn would’ve won a GE tapping into the same feeling.

 

[skybluetony176]

But all Brexit has done, and will continue to do, is make those type of people richer while everyone else gets poorer. I really don't think that's the bloody nose you think it is

Fight club mentality.

 

[It’sabatch87]

Fascinated by how one extreme hated by centrist politicians on both sides gets public support while another gets lambasted. Farage and Corbyn were basically the same message. I do wonder whether if Brexit hadn’t been a thing Corbyn would’ve won a GE tapping into the same feeling.

Corbyn had cosied up to terrorist organisations so he’d never had got in in my opinion.

 

[PVA]