The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

Discussion in 'Off Topic Chat' started by jimmyhillsfanclub, Jun 8, 2016.

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As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

Poll closed Jun 15, 2016.
  1. Remain

    23 vote(s)
    37.1%
  2. Leave

    35 vote(s)
    56.5%
  3. Undecided

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
  4. Not registered or not intention to vote

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. Grendel

    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    The amount of infighting is irrelevant - he can shale it however he wants with such a large majority and an influx of new MPs
     
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    And so it should be, being ready willing & able to walk away from any negotiation is a vital option because it levels the playing field somewhat

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    So would we believe a liar on who is to blame?

    It is our parliament that has held it back so far. Now it should move quicker until there is more involvement from the EU.

    Maybe it will be the EU that employs delaying tactics. Maybe it will be the Tories. Maybe it will be the Remainers. We can't say who is innocent of all charges or guilty of everything until it happens. But many will do so. Same old really.
     
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    The opposite is actually true.
     
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    Oh he’ll get a deal. And he’ll do it the way he did with the WA: he’ll cave in to every demand the EU makes.
     
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    Yes. When negotiating I always make sure to tell the other person I’m absolutely desperate and need literally anything to save my skin.

    The old wounded animal sympathy approach to negotiations. Classic Dom ;)
     
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    Grendel Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear still spouting drivel I see
     
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    I see the markets aren’t big fans of Johnson’s “negotiating”

     
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    Wow, you're actually clueless.
     
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    There were celebrations on here about the value of the £ increasing, now I guess a weaker currency is better again :D
     
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    The latest figures on growth (or lack of it) were released today and the government is going to exceed it's borrowing targets as a result. Could be a reaction to that.
     
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    As usual though it’s rubbish - the actual level since October remains higher and of course it only went up in the first place as the markets breathed a huge sigh of relief that Labour were not elected
     
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    I must have missed you pointing that out to others in the aftermath of the election then!
     
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    At the end of August sterling to dollar - it was down to 1.21 and now is 1.32 - the peak was 1.34 - Shmeee really needs better analytical skills
     
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    And now it’s right back down to pre election figures cause johnson is gonna arrange another cliff edge by saying we are out of he’ll jump in a ditch Dec 20
     
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    Er it’s down 2 cents - the boost being because Commie Corbyn wasn’t getting elected
     
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    What, you never noticed that he was irritating before?

    Bit slow on the uptake, aren't you.
     
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    The Bench opposite the conservatives didn't think so
     
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    Many on here were saying he’s standing up for parliament along with that slime ball Grieve as you well know. He allowed the Order Paper to be removed from the government for the first time in 500 years - he was crawling over procedure to justify the most undemocratic action we have witnessed in parliament

    Everyone has got their just deserts - Johnson stuck to his guns, was not going to be bullied and intimidated and rightly cane through in the eyes of the public
     
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    Thank god Boris called the election! In the end it showed how the public really felt about the speakers actions trying to delay and stop brexit
     
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    He did stand up for parliament. We currently haver a very dangerous Prime Minister, who is manipulating democracy in a disturbing way, where he chooses to represent immensely undemocratic acts as standing up for the people. Alas, it seems we don't learn from history in that respect.

    Bercow standing up for parliament, however, doesn't stop him being irritating!
     
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    What 'undemocratic act' are you hinting at?
     
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    Just wait this is a long burning decision that will tKe some time before we can say well done to anyone at this stage
     
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    Johnson absolutely played Corbyn over the timing of the election which the fixed term act was supposed to mean couldn’t happen
     
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    He did. I have no idea why they all agreed to it!

    Well... tbf I can see why the SNP agreed to it. In all this it's been missed what a good job they've done, politically. They've played the system to create the conditions they want.
     
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    Bercow reversed 500 years of precedent to try and support a side of an argument he’s on

    That’s usurping his authority

    The opposition tried to put a gun to the government and force amendments which again is unheard of

    You have a very odd view of democracy
     
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    think 2017 played into it when May misjudged things so badly. Parties maybe thought Tory support would fall again as voting day drew close. Obvious that labour didn't see collapse support in so many strongholds.
    SNP thought they could capitalize on antipathy towards both major parties and Brexit election suited them as they'd struggle to fight a campaign on domestic issues the way they are struggling with the dissatisfaction amongst Scottish voters in key areas like Health & Education
     
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    It's meaningless and just for show. If it comes down to the wire he can repeal this just as quickly as he can introduce it. Playing to the gallery.
     
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    I thought the WA was oven-ready and all the candidates had signed up to pass it. Now apparently it needs amending in a way that makes no-deal a distinct possibility again.

    Nice to see this was mentioned in all his repetitive Brexit stuff during the election.....

    I was hoping the large majority would see the far-right nutters marginalised but insiders (and some of the footage from hustings) actually suggests they've increased the number of lunatics. Will be watching through my fingers to see how this plays out.
     
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    Yes, hopefully this is the case.


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    Sensible post.


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